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dark998 · 2013-10-15, 00:39

This is turning out pretty good, Raishin is a cool guy and Yaya is adorable and wants Raishin inside her. Production-wise I don't like the characters randomly switching between 3D and 2D but episode 2 was devoid of that so it may be fixed... or may be not.

And certainly I was not expecting that shower scene with full nudity either (censored in the Horriblesubs rip).Studio Lerche is delivering so far. And the obligatory:

OP: Very nice song, visuals could have been much better.
ED: I usually hate motormouth songs but this one is oddly catchy.

thundrakkon · 2013-10-15, 02:34

The way Raishin reacted to one of Magnus' dolls suggests that he knows that doll, the Fire one. Magnus could potentially have killed off Raishin's family to steal the doll(s). Actually, given the fact that he covered all the dolls' faces suggests that they might all have been stolen. Then again, it could suggest that the doll caused the fire to his home. I still think Magnus stole the dolls.

Also, if Raishin's technique is to control a corp of dolls, does that mean the ending possibly has him controlling 2 more for a total of 3?

YagimotoKazuhiro · 2013-10-15, 02:46

Spoiler for Those dolls:

Malkuth · 2013-10-15, 02:53

Short question, Shouko is the MC's sister? I thought he called her Nadeshiko in the flashback. If it not revealed yet, please don't spoil.

By the way, does anyone else want to bet that the blonde guy investigating the doll-murders and kidnappings is the culprit, and uses the MC to frame the tsundere with the dragon-doll.

YagimotoKazuhiro · 2013-10-15, 02:56

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Originally Posted by Malkuth

Short question, Shouko is the MC's sister? I thought he called her Nadeshiko in the flashback. If it not revealed yet, please don't spoil.

By the way, does anyone else want to bet that the blonde guy investigating the doll-murders and kidnappings is the culprit, and uses the MC to frame the tsundere with the dragon-doll.

You can guess. From their attitudes... what do you think?

I'm itching to give spoilers from the LN.

Breimoon · 2013-10-15, 03:02

Wonder if MC will get more atuomons in the future since one does not seem enough against magnus.And even if tyrant rex were to help him it is still 5/6 against 2+mc(human).

Malkuth · 2013-10-15, 03:05

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Originally Posted by YagimotoKazuhiro

You can guess. From their attitudes... what do you think?

It's more meta-thinking, rather than guessing based on facts presented. Characters that are introduced along with a subplot usually lose their significance after it is resolved. And the blonde guy is the only one introduced with it. Plus he was given a token motivation with the dating.

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Originally Posted by YagimotoKazuhiro

I'm itching to give spoilers from the LN.

PM me if it will alleviate your itching, I might eventually succumb to the temptation of reading them, but definitely not in this thread.

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Originally Posted by Breimoon

Wonder if MC will get more atuomons in the future since one does not seem enough against magnus.And even if tyrant rex were to help him it is still 5/6 against 2+mc(human).

I think that the ending animation answered this already

Shinhwa · 2013-10-15, 03:25

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Originally Posted by Malkuth

Short question, Shouko is the MC's sister? I thought he called her Nadeshiko in the flashback. If it not revealed yet, please don't spoil.

By the way, does anyone else want to bet that the blonde guy investigating the doll-murders and kidnappings is the culprit, and uses the MC to frame the tsundere with the dragon-doll.

No Shouko isn't his sister.

Just reading character descriptions will pretty much let you know who is who.

Can't tell you about your question since it's spoiler.

-Sho- · 2013-10-15, 03:37

This looks pretty good.
I like how the MC reacts , asking for a date etc.... also the shower scene , dat fangirl service

EroKing · 2013-10-15, 03:45

She looked a lot like Yaya. Wouldn't be surprised if she was her real waifu like Yaya said in episode 1 or

were going to be married but got killed off? Not hard to guess at this point that they used her body to make Yaya.

Haruyasha · 2013-10-15, 07:19

Time to bust out the DDR pad ...

Dark Faith · 2013-10-15, 07:51

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Originally Posted by Shinhwa

From what I see, I think he is like equivalent to Kamijou Touma from Index/Railgun except Raishin isn't really dense.

He reminds me more of Shirou from FSN.
Episode 2 was okay... I still find Yaya to be unbearably annoying and that's hurting my enjoyment of the show.

Velsy · 2013-10-15, 08:50

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Originally Posted by bigdeath

If your willing to read an unofficial fan translation then you can read the first two light novels here:

http://kikoushoujothetranslation.wordpress.com/

Nice!, will save it in my favourits, to get around to at some point.

FlareKnight · 2013-10-15, 10:49

Think it's hard to specify one good comparable for Raishin. A good guy, but he's out there for the sake of revenge. From the tests not overly talented, but does have solid martial arts and a really powerful automaton in Yaya.

I wonder if Raishin could even use more automatons even if he wanted to? That score doesn't seem to reflect immense talent. Fighting himself and using Yaya might be the maximum of what he can do right now.

bigdeath · 2013-10-15, 12:07

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Originally Posted by Dark Faith

He reminds me more of Shirou from FSN.
Episode 2 was okay... I still find Yaya to be unbearably annoying and that's hurting my enjoyment of the show.

Shirou is an Idiot who wants to save everyone and make sure no one gets hurt. On the other hand, Raishin wants revenge and is full of confidence without being arrogant. They are not similar at all. I'll agree that a less dense Kamijou Touma from Index/Railgun is a much better comparison.

@FlareKnight

Raishin himself states this episode that just controlling Yaya puts him at his limit (perhaps explaining his somewhat difficulty in controlling her). To make up for his lack of additional dolls, he fights himself which is unusual. Its implied most Puppeteers don't fight with their dolls.

Preciize · 2013-10-15, 13:52

I enjoyed episode 2. Yaya had some funny scenes with the marble tears and when she tried to take Raishin's pants off xD

Shinhwa · 2013-10-15, 14:43

Yeah, I laughed at the marble tears =w=;

FlareKnight · 2013-10-15, 15:24

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Originally Posted by bigdeath

Shirou is an Idiot who wants to save everyone and make sure no one gets hurt. On the other hand, Raishin wants revenge and is full of confidence without being arrogant. They are not similar at all. I'll agree that a less dense Kamijou Touma from Index/Railgun is a much better comparison.

@FlareKnight

Raishin himself states this episode that just controlling Yaya puts him at his limit (perhaps explaining his somewhat difficulty in controlling her). To make up for his lack of additional dolls, he fights himself which is unusual. Its implied most Puppeteers don't fight with their dolls.

I stick by the statement that comparisons are tough

. Some similarities to Touma, but while Touma was considered a failure by the system he had a super hax ability that made him incredibly powerful in certain situations. I don't think his revenge goal lines up that well with Touma either.

Just feel like Raishin kind of fits into his own unique area. Though will agree he's probably closer to Touma than Shirou.

To be fair most puppeteers only use one doll in the first place but still don't actually do any fighting themselves. That might have as much to do with common stereotypes as to feasibility in combat. Automatons are tools so naturally you let them go and get beaten up while you hang back. Just shows how far back Raishin is compared to the standard that he has to do something almost desperate like fighting on the front lines himself. And yeah he himself expressed his own limitations. If he had the capability to use multiple automatons like his family I'm sure he would have come there with more than just Yaya. Despite how much that probably would have upset her

.

Curious how Raishin will be able to achieve his goals with things as they are. If that guy is who Raishin is after he's going to have a tough time getting past all those automatons with just Yaya, even if he fights as well.

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Originally Posted by Shinhwa

Yeah, I laughed at the marble tears =w=;

I just had fun watching Sigmund trying not to get buried alive underneath the marbles

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Dark Faith · 2013-10-15, 15:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdeath

Shirou is an Idiot who wants to save everyone and make sure no one gets hurt. On the other hand, Raishin wants revenge and is full of confidence without being arrogant. They are not similar at all. I'll agree that a less dense Kamijou Touma from Index/Railgun is a much better comparison.

You're oversimplifying Shirou's character, but who am I to argue.
Raishin reminded me of him thanks to his lousy scores in tests (Shirou was pretty bad at magic himself, but great at his own niche), fighting alongside his automaton (as Shirou did with his servant/s) and determination despite the odds being stacked against him.

Flying Dagger · 2013-10-15, 19:41

Seen the screencaps of ep2: did they bring back yaya's clogs? Raishin explicitly got yaya a pair of boots since they are easier to fight in.

Kimberley (I think) looks better than the image I have of her in my head.

At this pace I think they will make it in time to cover the v3+4 pairing.

Spoiler for spoiler on character appearance:

2013-10-15, 02:34	Link #262
thundrakkon Anime-Only Viewer Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA	The way Raishin reacted to one of Magnus' dolls suggests that he knows that doll, the Fire one. Magnus could potentially have killed off Raishin's family to steal the doll(s). Actually, given the fact that he covered all the dolls' faces suggests that they might all have been stolen. Then again, it could suggest that the doll caused the fire to his home. I still think Magnus stole the dolls. Also, if Raishin's technique is to control a corp of dolls, does that mean the ending possibly has him controlling 2 more for a total of 3? __________________

2013-10-15, 02:46	Link #263
YagimotoKazuhiro Solitude Scanlator Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Singapore	Spoiler for Those dolls: Those dolls are bandolls. One of them was made from his family member. If I'm not wrong. __________________ In solitude, where we are least alone. Kanamechan Translations

2013-10-15, 03:45	Link #270
EroKing Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Age: 38	She looked a lot like Yaya. Wouldn't be surprised if she was her real waifu like Yaya said in episode 1 or were going to be married but got killed off? Not hard to guess at this point that they used her body to make Yaya. __________________

2013-10-15, 07:19	Link #271
Haruyasha 名前は？ Scanlator Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Washington Age: 35	Time to bust out the DDR pad ... <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/DP-fmneRqYM">watch on YouTube</a>.</p>

2013-10-15, 10:49	Link #274
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	Think it's hard to specify one good comparable for Raishin. A good guy, but he's out there for the sake of revenge. From the tests not overly talented, but does have solid martial arts and a really powerful automaton in Yaya. I wonder if Raishin could even use more automatons even if he wanted to? That score doesn't seem to reflect immense talent. Fighting himself and using Yaya might be the maximum of what he can do right now. __________________ Anime-Evo

2013-10-15, 00:39	Link #261
dark998 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	This is turning out pretty good, Raishin is a cool guy and Yaya is adorable and wants Raishin inside her. Production-wise I don't like the characters randomly switching between 3D and 2D but episode 2 was devoid of that so it may be fixed... or may be not. And certainly I was not expecting that shower scene with full nudity either (censored in the Horriblesubs rip).Studio Lerche is delivering so far. And the obligatory: OP: Very nice song, visuals could have been much better. ED: I usually hate motormouth songs but this one is oddly catchy.

2013-10-15, 02:53	Link #264
Malkuth Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: London Age: 43	Short question, Shouko is the MC's sister? I thought he called her Nadeshiko in the flashback. If it not revealed yet, please don't spoil. By the way, does anyone else want to bet that the blonde guy investigating the doll-murders and kidnappings is the culprit, and uses the MC to frame the tsundere with the dragon-doll.

2013-10-15, 03:02	Link #266
Breimoon Senior Member Join Date: May 2012	Wonder if MC will get more atuomons in the future since one does not seem enough against magnus.And even if tyrant rex were to help him it is still 5/6 against 2+mc(human).

2013-10-15, 03:37	Link #269
-Sho- ~Omedetô~ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Somewhere between heaven and hell !	This looks pretty good. I like how the MC reacts , asking for a date etc.... also the shower scene , dat fangirl service

2013-10-15, 13:52	Link #276
Preciize Them Feels~ Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: United States	I enjoyed episode 2. Yaya had some funny scenes with the marble tears and when she tried to take Raishin's pants off xD __________________ MyAnimeList

2013-10-15, 14:43	Link #277
Shinhwa Banned Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Toronto, ON, Canada Age: 33	Yeah, I laughed at the marble tears =w=;

2013-10-15, 19:41	Link #280
Flying Dagger 大巧不工 Join Date: Dec 2003	Seen the screencaps of ep2: did they bring back yaya's clogs? Raishin explicitly got yaya a pair of boots since they are easier to fight in. Kimberley (I think) looks better than the image I have of her in my head. At this pace I think they will make it in time to cover the v3+4 pairing. Spoiler for spoiler on character appearance: which is both horrible and awesome. V3's story is probably the worst in the series, but Alice+Shin are awesome. Irori getting screen time before the end of the season would be the icing on the cake.