2014-06-07, 12:42 | Link #261 |
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You can use G. Dem to counter any spell whether it be Lina's HMB, Maya's Meteor Stream or Mio's Abyss. What's important is the ridiculous amount psions required to wash away their spells and the luck to actually be in position and fast enough to blast all of their spells to bits before they can take effect.
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2014-06-07, 13:26 | Link #262 |
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the range of ES vol 8 he used ES to target a bulled he decomposed and rebuild range 20km vol 7 cap 13 with satellite link and 3d image 1.) 0,5 mg droplet of water 80km range 2.)From within Tsushima Base, across the strait, directly into Zhènhai Naval Port 1kg flag (idk the km count but far more than 100km) Last edited by Kokus; 2014-06-07 at 13:29. Reason: spelling |
2014-06-07, 15:09 | Link #263 | |
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Spoiler for Volume 10, Chapter 12, right before Naotsugu interferes:
I also don't see any mention about Lina (or anything she's wielding) actually being in his CAD's sights until AFTER he jams it in Brionac. Spoiler for Volume 11, Chapter 13:
The earlier mention of CAD in the chapter, to me, seems to be him theorizing that with the practice he had (i.e. he "thought"), he should be able to target the correct Lina with the CAD now. Not that he actually had her targeted at that moment. Spoiler for Volume 11, Chapter 13:
If he was actually keeping her in his CAD's sight at that moment, there's no reason for him to be thinking that he could, he'd be doing it and finding out yes/no right away. |
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2014-06-07, 15:46 | Link #264 | |
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And Cad's sights was mentioned before he followed Lina and you quoted that as well. Cad's sights mean his Cads sights to me, since the novel says he took out his Cad before. And of course there is a need to mention that he thinks he could, since the paragraph went on to explain she was no longer using Parade to falsify her position due to her focusing on using HMB, and so he couldn't actually test his conclusion. |
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What I do agree is in his sealed state they'd be able to either tie or barely defeat him if he's not using Trident, but once unsealed we won't know, he has yet to even fight anyone in his unsealed state. Quote:
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2014-06-09, 07:38 | Link #267 |
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Well Tatsuya has a diverse arsenal of skills hidden under his sleeves.
More so he is just playing it safe and only shows a meager part of his wide skill arsenal, but if he wanted to cause a catastrophe, he can do it at the whim. Just the MB and Elemental Eyes is enough to destroy everything in his path. |
2014-06-09, 10:09 | Link #268 | |
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Ultimately I think the battle's purpose was to introduce a restriction on decomposition for the future, than it was to show that Tomitsuka was a counter character to Tatsuya. That or the author just forgot about the sound amplification spell since it had been around 8 volumes since it was used XD. edit: By a restiction on decomposition I do not simply mean Tomitsuka's ability, but that it doesn't have an effect on unordered Psions, which could be used for in future situations besides just close-contact gram demolition. |
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2014-06-09, 10:15 | Link #269 | |
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2014-06-09, 10:22 | Link #270 |
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The volume amplification spell needs preparation and a device, it's not something Tatsuya can use everytime besides, it can easily be avoided as Georges said in vol 5. Tatsuya's specialized magics are useless against his GD so he will just have to best him physically, he was not on the offensive during their battle. Tomitsuka would need to stay in GD mode and attack him but Tatsuya can deal with it, once he tries to use other magics he will lose since the psion armor surrounding him will have a form.
A match between them will take some time though. |
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And as for Contact-Type GD, that's not really the problem Tatsuya is having, it's the armor, without it Tatsuya can easily get around the GD. Quote:
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2014-06-09, 13:32 | Link #273 | |
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But here, someone was like:"Because it doesn't show, it means it doesnt' show he could do it. Hence he couldn't do it". =>When you got a main character who seems capable of doing everything, you want him to not able to do anything. But when they are some losers with abysmal decision making, below average at everything, you believe they can do anything. WTF is wrong with you guys?
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2014-06-09, 15:21 | Link #274 | |
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On the first part, I think we got a bit of a mix in definitions, when I said I don't think that Tomisuka is a counter character, I didn't mean that he didn't have an ability that counters decomposition or anything like that. When I say counter character if I were to give a definition it would be: a character B whose abilities and/or personality are opposing to Character A, and is able to either be able to greatly challenge Character A in either their fights or Ideologies. In some cases since their abilities can be anathema to Character A's they can easily beat them, even if Character A can normally beat characters that would defeat character B. When I said that I don't think Tomisuka is a counter character it is because I don't see him as being able to greatly challenge Tatsuya in a real fight. It doesn't matter if he can counter one ability if he would still be easily defeated. That said my idea of a counter character might be different than yours, causing the feeling of dissonance in my previous words. As Bietchie11 has mentioned above, I don't think that the fact that the author didn't make Tatsuya use sound amplification in battle means that it wouldn't work. I even mentioned in one of my earlier posts that he might have found it bad form to blast out an eardrum in a friendly match like this. Also, on top of that Tatsuya would probably have to pretend to have a blasted eardrum again, which he might want to avoid since it makes people needlessly worried. The author might even have just forgot about it when writing the scene, he is human after all. Tatsuya might have avoided it because instantly downing Tomisuka doesn't do what the in novel point of the match was: to showcase the abilities of Tatsuya and Tomisuka for Shippou to have his ego reduced. A simple work around doesn't really do that as effectively. As I can't really see any reason why it wouldn't work, and I can see reasons why he would avoid it, I am hesitant to say it wouldn't work, since there is not the least bit of proof of that. I already mentioned in an earlier post how I doubt he would have been able to avoid it like masaki could have because he has to come close to Tatsuya at some point because he can't do ranged magic, and nothing he has done has given me the feeling that he could otherwise counter it. Also I meant that there might be cases besides the psion armor in the future that has unordered Psions that will give Tatsuya problems in the future, I never meant to imply that it had to be or even could be in the form of a spell, since that would order the psions and defeat the point. Well I can't think of any situation I am not so bold as to say that the author wouldn't be able to think of any. On the rest, I thank you for the corrections on Tatsuya's interference strength and on Gram demolition. |
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2014-06-09, 23:59 | Link #276 | |
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True, it's not at the level of an average magician ... but, he is still in a better situation compared to other BS magicians... I also doubt that he is going to be capable of gaining the ability to use normal magic at the level of an normal ordinary magician ... since that would make Tastuya ... pretty much invincible |
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