DotA (Defense of the Ancients)

[tehjoker]

deso...
coz headshot + -armor is pure win.

also, skadi takes a long time&money to make.

[rainnydaiis]

Originally Posted by Schnizel

Got a question: What's more better for sniper? Skadi or desolator?

Well it depends how good you are with sniper. For me I perfer skadi because the first item I go is SnY and not lothar. So I use skadi with SnY and its pure ownage. But on the other hand deso and sny doesn't stack as well so meh. Deso is good with sniper but i don't get deso with him. Probably the only few hero's I get deso with is Alch/Slardar/Dark Seer and thats it.

[Duo Maxwell]

Originally Posted by Schnizel

Got a question: What's more better for sniper? Skadi or desolator?

Orchid
3 Wraiths and Orchid is fun.

[Strygwyr]

Wow that helps me a lot

But then again Skadi and SnY was my original plan.

I asked this question but some players asked me, why i go skadi.

If I go deso, Since SnY and Deso can't be together, I go Deso and two bashers.

[rainnydaiis]

Originally Posted by Duo Maxwell

Orchid
3 Wraiths and Orchid is fun.

Yeah once I went SnY/Orchid right away and that was probably one of the most hilarious things. Str hero's getting pwned so hard. Well later on in the game it didn't really help as much but it was funny seeing people cry over orchid on a sniper.

Originally Posted by Schnizel

Wow that helps me a lot

But then again Skadi and SnY was my original plan.

I asked this question but some players asked me, why i go skadi.

If I go deso, Since SnY and Deso can't be together, I go Deso and two bashers.

Well Skadi and SnY in other words stack because Skadi overpowers SnY in orbs so you still slow and have the str/agil boost and everything. But deso and skadi won't stack at all together from what I remember. Both Skadi and Deso won't work. I haven't gone bashers with sniper for like years now. I found its a total waste of gold and time getting. You can just get SnY/Lothar/Blfy/Skadi with treads and your pretty much set for the entire game. Of course if it goes on to long getting crit is probably your best idea.

[Strygwyr]

Lol never saw sniper with an orchid before.

[Duo Maxwell]

With the recently buff, Sniper with Orchid is viable. Depend on the lane and the way my team is playing (hard gankers and need to push fast), I'll switch between the usual Sniper or Orchid Sniper. Meaning lv up Scatter Shot at 2, 3, 5, 7 while keeping head shot at lv 1, and Take Aim when I have spare points. Ulti is taken whenever possible to grab a kill or lane control (depend on your enemy).

Starting item is Chicken, 2 Cirlet, later bring a tango with a chicken. Because Orchid is easy to build, you should never return home. Use the chick/crow to bring you regen item and those parts.

[rainnydaiis]

Originally Posted by Duo Maxwell

With the recently buff, Sniper with Orchid is viable. Depend on the lane and the way my team is playing (hard gankers and need to push fast), I'll switch between the usual Sniper or Orchid Sniper. Meaning lv up Scatter Shot at 2, 3, 5, 7 while keeping head shot at lv 1, and Take Aim when I have spare points. Ulti is taken whenever possible to grab a kill or lane control (depend on your enemy).

Starting item is Chicken, 2 Cirlet, later bring a tango with a chicken. Because Orchid is easy to build, you should never return home. Use the chick/crow to bring you regen item and those parts.

You actually go scatter shot early? I never even touch it until i'm lvl like 13? I only max out headshot and take aim since I can farm fine without scatter. Of course I sometimes go midas if I have a strong opposing team. I use to go scatter long time ago but was always called newb ^^. So I just got tired of it and through sniper I basically learned to last hit.

[Duo Maxwell]

Depend, like I said. With low armor heroes, Scatter Shot hurts, and if you want to push early. Try to reduce all the creeps' hp to red, last hit normally unless the enemy try to deny, with one Scatter Shot, you can hurt him and take away his chance of denying, thus leaving him with your creep. 3 or 4 times, that actually hurts him more than you think. Don't spam it mindlessly, though. Alway leave at least 175 mana left because mostly people will think you're stupid with this build, and doesn't think you can kill them the moment you reach lv 6.

Haven't tried this on high level game, though. Not recommended .

[rainnydaiis]

Originally Posted by Duo Maxwell

Depend, like I said. With low armor heroes, Scatter Shot hurts, and if you want to push early. Try to reduce all the creeps' hp to red, last hit normally unless the enemy try to deny, with one Scatter Shot, you can hurt him and take away his chance of denying, thus leaving him with your creep. 3 or 4 times, that actually hurts him more than you think. Don't spam it mindlessly, though. Alway leave at least 175 mana left because mostly people will think you're stupid with this build, and doesn't think you can kill them the moment you reach lv 6.

Haven't tried this on high level game, though. Not recommended .

Yeah exactly, since I'm usually playing scrims and matches I really don't do that. Even though it is a very good strategy, I save my mp until I'm lvl 6 and spam assassinate. I carry like 3 clarity potions since I have such far range from take aim, I never get hit. Constantly keep assassinating is such a huge harass very early in the game. Usually forces them to leave lane or back and then I'm free to level and farm without being denied.

[tehjoker]

I really learn a lot here.

[rainnydaiis]

Originally Posted by tehjoker

I really learn a lot here.

Glad to hear that. If you need advice or help with anything don't be afraid to ask ^^. If you ever want to scrim and learn how to play pretty hard games, you can ask me and I can set you up with some of my clan mates.

[Frailty]

my friend an I have benn debating this since a week..
so I'll ask here ^_^

this is what we were debating on

can you lifesteal on the fountain of life and towers?

I said no but he says yes -_-

[Riker]

Not sure about towers, but I've seen videos of Ursa soloing fountains with Vlad, so I guess it does.

[P.G.]

NO~ it has/there is no lifesteal. both towers & FoL.

~maybe that ursa was pretty strong. but definetly there is no lifesteal.

[tehjoker]

A way to counter Axe with 2 vanguards and tarassque?

[Duo Maxwell]

Huskar + Necrolyte?

Dazzle's ulti hit him hard.

[rainnydaiis]

Originally Posted by Frailty

my friend an I have benn debating this since a week..
so I'll ask here ^_^

this is what we were debating on

can you lifesteal on the fountain of life and towers?

I said no but he says yes -_-

No you can't LS from any of the buildings and especially not fountain. Thats why killing fountain is like nearly impossible even if you keep trying for a long time. I probably have only seen it like once and I can't clearly remember which character it was but the game was like 2 hours long.

Originally Posted by Riker

Not sure about towers, but I've seen videos of Ursa soloing fountains with Vlad, so I guess it does.

That ursa must have been hella buff.. Because his orb doesn't work on the fountain so hes just going to be getting a beating the entire time haha.

Originally Posted by tehjoker

A way to counter Axe with 2 vanguards and tarassque?

Very easy. Don't get caught in his call and focus fire like a mad man. Just the fact that he went heart before a dagger shows that he wants to die ^^. Probably one of the carry classes can counter that axe by themselves. I was Axe before with 3 hearts/bot/blademail and I still got killed by a pa with treads/bfury/butterfly/buriza. I got my ass kicked in like 4 seconds? 1 ult and like 2 buriza crits raped my face and left me for dead.

[Kana Futayo]

My friend is bugging me everytime I use orchid w/ silencer and he said "Orchid's skill only works for spells". Okay, now I'm worried if it's true or not or else it's not that useful for me to use that item for Windrunner mainly for her ulti. Can anyone clarify this?

[KickHopper]

Originally Posted by rainnydaiis

Glad to hear that. If you need advice or help with anything don't be afraid to ask ^^. If you ever want to scrim and learn how to play pretty hard games, you can ask me and I can set you up with some of my clan mates.

Do you play on East? I wouldn't mind taking you up on that offer. ^^ I quit playing for a couple months and so rusty now.