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xizro345 · 2016-11-15, 23:39

I actually hope it stays that way. Nasu went overboard in CCC and the game (not the story) suffered a lot from it.

belatkuro · 2016-11-15, 23:49

Do you mean the delays which made it release so late and at the time that PSP is dying, thus no chance of getting a localization? Though Nasu did go overboard in the story department as well. The punishment scenes after the boss battles were something else.

>still hasn't finished CCC true route.
I-I'll do it this week.

xizro345 · 2016-11-16, 12:59

No, I meant that as a game all the sub-events that lead up to the story (with the exploration of the Sakura Labyrinth) are essentially padding. Which works in a VN, but not in a RPG. Too many times you're tossed back and forth in the Labyrinth where almost nothing happens. Add to that the subpar battle system from the original (and, I have my doubts about the Punish mechanic as well) and you get the point.

As a personal opinion, several "serious" moments in CCC are at best unintentional comedy (I know Nasu made a big deal about sexuality in this game, but most of the time simply it doesn't work as intended) and at worst groan-inducing moments (almost every time BB appears on the screen). I wonder if sometimes Nasu chose the odd scenario just for the sake of being odd.

Extella has, at least for now, a more "dry" approach in style, which reminds me more of EXTRA and works better, IMO.

AnimeFan188 · 2017-07-25, 22:50

Fate/EXTELLA: The Umbral Star PC Launch Trailer Streamed:

"This story takes place after the events described in Fate/EXTRA, and depicts the world
after that previous Holy Grail War. Players will experience the story from the independent
perspectives of the three heroine Servants and face off against foes from a variety of Fate
productions, including characters from Fate/stay night, Fate/Apocrypha and Fate/Grand
Order, in fast-paced action."

See:

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...reamed/.119312

InfinityDragonGod · 2017-08-29, 17:32

Fate Extella has a sequel and its called Fate/Extella Link.

A new Saber will be Charlemagne uses a Noble Phantasm roughly translated to “Joyeuse Ordre: Show Us The Hero! Twelve Radiant Swords That Travel the Wide World.” Hopefully some of the 12 paladins. Astolfo most likely

Quote:

The super fast action has been powered-up.
Master costumes have been completely redone.
Areas are gorgeous and dazzling.
All 16 characters from the previous game are playable.

Spoiler for Saber Charlemagne:

And yes Hakuno is still the protagonist.
Based on the new outfit it makes me wonder if this will connect to CCC and setting will have Seraph and the real world.

Spoiler for New Hakuno Outfit:

Kanon · 2017-08-29, 17:53

Charlemagne is a bishounen. If he's in it, you can bet Astolfo will be as well in some capacity.

I'm cautiously looking forward to it. Extella had a lot of playable servants and that was great, the problem was that you only had 7 or so tiny stages to play in. Replaying the same stages over and over again got old real fast. It felt super cheap as a game.

InfinityDragonGod · 2017-08-30, 08:46

Quote:

“I am the Saber, Charlemagne. Now, won’t you settle down and listen to my story?”

So Charlemagne will be an easygoing young man who doesn't think he's suite to be King.
His actions are based on whether it is cool or tacky. Even if his actions might cause him or his Master to be disadvantaged.

So now I can understand why Astolfo keeps calling him an idiot. Well since Astolfo is a trap and Roland is a stripper, it's not surprising that Charlemagne is also a weirdo.
I'm scared on what the other paladins are like.
"The twelve perverted paladins led by the baka king"

InfinityDragonGod · 2017-08-30, 14:44

Marvelous has mentioned that Fate Extella Link will be more of a side story game, while a proper sequel of Fate Extella is currently being developed as well.

alex_drian · 2017-08-30, 19:54

So the info says that Charlemagne is the MC?

Is possible for Hakuno have a male harem this time?

Kakurin · 2017-12-31, 10:22

And a new game in this universe:

YouTube

https://youtu.be/T3I_aC7e3sQ

Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload?

InfinityDragonGod · 2017-12-31, 12:24

But how is it possible for Scáthach to be summoned?
Is it because of what happened in FGO?

FlareKnight · 2017-12-31, 13:07

Certainly no surprise to see Astolfo join the cast with Charlemagne being there. I'm curious (outside of FGO popularity) why Scathach will be involved in terms of the story.

Regardless should be interesting to see who else joins the cast this time around.

Dengar · 2018-01-02, 07:43

Why would it not be possible for Scathach to be summoned?

And F/GO is in a different continuity so it has no bearing on the /Extra timeline.

belatkuro · 2018-01-02, 08:26

Because

Spoiler for FGO:

Let's wait for the new game to explain things I guess.

Dengar · 2018-01-02, 08:35

Maybe the explanation is rather simple. The Moon Cell Automaton is incredibly powerful, even by Holy Grail standards. Alternately, since the Throne of Heroes is kind of a timeless thing, plus the Moon Cell Automaton is some kind of quantum mega uber super duper computer that doesn't really care which continuity it's accessing, I may have to take back the whole "F/GO isn't connected" statement since they at least occupy the same "tree" of alternate contiuities.

shadow1296 · 2018-01-02, 14:44

this is not the first time moon cell literally broke the rules of the throne of heroes

Spoiler for extra spoilers:

Dengar · 2018-01-02, 18:47

Well, it's Moon Cell, its power is incredibly weird and undefined.

Twi · 2018-01-03, 19:17

Let's not forget "Monster" who had no business being there at all.

Dengar · 2018-01-04, 08:53

So I just want to recap this incase I understood incorrectly. The servants aren't mere reproductions from a database, right? Their souls are as real as the magi who summon them, right?

belatkuro · 2018-01-04, 09:40

Quote:

When it comes to Servants, Servants are in a spirit form, so their bodies and minds cannot be digitized, so they create a [physical] copy (bunshin) of themselves in order to do this.

However, their soul is indeed materialized properly in the cyber world.

From Fate Extra Material.

2017-08-29, 17:53	Link #866
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Charlemagne is a bishounen. If he's in it, you can bet Astolfo will be as well in some capacity. I'm cautiously looking forward to it. Extella had a lot of playable servants and that was great, the problem was that you only had 7 or so tiny stages to play in. Replaying the same stages over and over again got old real fast. It felt super cheap as a game. __________________

2017-08-30, 14:44	Link #868
InfinityDragonGod Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012	Marvelous has mentioned that Fate Extella Link will be more of a side story game, while a proper sequel of Fate Extella is currently being developed as well. __________________ FGO ID (NA): 879 057 690

2017-12-31, 10:22	Link #870
Kakurin 大佐 Join Date: Jun 2013	And a new game in this universe: YouTube https://youtu.be/T3I_aC7e3sQ Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? __________________

2017-12-31, 12:24	Link #871
InfinityDragonGod Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012	But how is it possible for Scáthach to be summoned? Is it because of what happened in FGO? __________________ FGO ID (NA): 879 057 690

2017-12-31, 13:07	Link #872
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	Certainly no surprise to see Astolfo join the cast with Charlemagne being there. I'm curious (outside of FGO popularity) why Scathach will be involved in terms of the story. Regardless should be interesting to see who else joins the cast this time around. __________________ Anime-Evo

2016-11-15, 23:39	Link #861
xizro345 King's Justice Join Date: Apr 2004	I actually hope it stays that way. Nasu went overboard in CCC and the game (not the story) suffered a lot from it.

2016-11-15, 23:49	Link #862
belatkuro Kuro-chan Join Date: Mar 2012	Do you mean the delays which made it release so late and at the time that PSP is dying, thus no chance of getting a localization? Though Nasu did go overboard in the story department as well. The punishment scenes after the boss battles were something else. >still hasn't finished CCC true route. I-I'll do it this week.

2016-11-16, 12:59	Link #863
xizro345 King's Justice Join Date: Apr 2004	No, I meant that as a game all the sub-events that lead up to the story (with the exploration of the Sakura Labyrinth) are essentially padding. Which works in a VN, but not in a RPG. Too many times you're tossed back and forth in the Labyrinth where almost nothing happens. Add to that the subpar battle system from the original (and, I have my doubts about the Punish mechanic as well) and you get the point. As a personal opinion, several "serious" moments in CCC are at best unintentional comedy (I know Nasu made a big deal about sexuality in this game, but most of the time simply it doesn't work as intended) and at worst groan-inducing moments (almost every time BB appears on the screen). I wonder if sometimes Nasu chose the odd scenario just for the sake of being odd. Extella has, at least for now, a more "dry" approach in style, which reminds me more of EXTRA and works better, IMO.

2017-07-25, 22:50	Link #864
AnimeFan188 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008	Fate/EXTELLA: The Umbral Star PC Launch Trailer Streamed: "This story takes place after the events described in Fate/EXTRA, and depicts the world after that previous Holy Grail War. Players will experience the story from the independent perspectives of the three heroine Servants and face off against foes from a variety of Fate productions, including characters from Fate/stay night, Fate/Apocrypha and Fate/Grand Order, in fast-paced action." See: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...reamed/.119312

2017-08-30, 19:54	Link #869
alex_drian Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015	So the info says that Charlemagne is the MC? Is possible for Hakuno have a male harem this time?

2018-01-02, 07:43	Link #873
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	Why would it not be possible for Scathach to be summoned? And F/GO is in a different continuity so it has no bearing on the /Extra timeline.

2018-01-02, 08:26	Link #874
belatkuro Kuro-chan Join Date: Mar 2012	Because Spoiler for FGO: She isn't in the Throne and the Mooncell summons from the Throne. She was summonable in FGO because of the incineration of human history which destroyed the Land of Shadows that she was residing in and she was then placed in the Throne. Though maybe because of FGO that she became summonable since the Throne got updated. But that makes a paradox since the Throne is outside of time and if she was placed in the Throne at one point she'd be always there at all times. Which isn't the case in FGO before the incineration. Let's wait for the new game to explain things I guess.

2018-01-02, 08:35	Link #875
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	Maybe the explanation is rather simple. The Moon Cell Automaton is incredibly powerful, even by Holy Grail standards. Alternately, since the Throne of Heroes is kind of a timeless thing, plus the Moon Cell Automaton is some kind of quantum mega uber super duper computer that doesn't really care which continuity it's accessing, I may have to take back the whole "F/GO isn't connected" statement since they at least occupy the same "tree" of alternate contiuities.

2018-01-02, 14:44	Link #876
shadow1296 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012	this is not the first time moon cell literally broke the rules of the throne of heroes Spoiler for extra spoilers: by summoning arcrueid which is impossible in extra's timeline because the tsukihime and moon cell can't exist at the same time, and then it summons a divine being that isn't possessing another person a literal divine being something the throne itself can't do which is something nasu themselves said shouldn't happen __________________

2018-01-02, 18:47	Link #877
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	Well, it's Moon Cell, its power is incredibly weird and undefined.

2018-01-03, 19:17	Link #878
Twi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Let's not forget "Monster" who had no business being there at all. __________________

2018-01-04, 08:53	Link #879
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	So I just want to recap this incase I understood incorrectly. The servants aren't mere reproductions from a database, right? Their souls are as real as the magi who summon them, right?