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ars89 · 2012-03-09, 21:40

Why! Never thought a P4 ep would have me at tears. How can they do that?

Chaos2Frozen · 2012-03-09, 21:50

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Originally Posted by ars89

Why! Never thought a P4 ep would have me at tears. How can they do that?

By using a little girl...

Von Himmel · 2012-03-10, 01:27

It's been a while so I forget about it..but which of the BGM that is used in this episode is Heaven?

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By using a little girl...

Nanakoooo ;__;

SilverSyko · 2012-03-10, 01:36

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Originally Posted by Von Himmel

It's been a while so I forget about it..but which of the BGM that is used in this episode is Heaven?

It's this one. It stands out a bit since it's one of only two dungeon themes in the game with vocals.

Gotta say I still prefer the cutscene of Kunino-sagiri's appearance from the game more, it really gives the feel of a "savior" descending from Heaven:

Spoiler for Video itself doesn't have spoilers but some of the related video links at the end do.:

rpgman1 · 2012-03-10, 01:41

That t-shirt reminds me of Vash the Stampede's motto: "Love & Peace". It's completely ironic for the 'savior'. How did Kunino-sagiri knew about Kohryu?

Jazzrat · 2012-03-10, 02:08

Episode 22 delivers the drama quite well, eventhough knowing the story beforehand it is still heart wrenching to see the last scene (which i shall not name the spoiler).

Glad to see Tam Lin gets an appearance at last which is one of my favourite early game demon to use especially in the Devil Survivor series. Also Devil Survivor 2 is out for those who still kept their NDS and so far have been lots of fun for me.

thundrakkon · 2012-03-10, 02:23

It's a little confusing what just happened. Did the psycho guy really try to save Nanako? He mentioned something about the fog, and Nanako's health deteriorated outside the TV world.

So maybe bringing them into the TV world after they have been chosen by Midnight Channel is a way for them to survive? In that they have to conquer themselves in order to become complete. If that is the case, then since Nanako did not complete that task, it is understandable why her health declined.

Also, I am guessing the fog is following Nanako, hence it become greatly foggy in the real world.

bayoab · 2012-03-10, 02:56

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Originally Posted by SilverSyko

It couldn't have been Lucifer anyway considering Lucifer's arcana is Judgement, and Yu can't obtain that arcana before the events that occur this episode.

Game rules do allow fusions into arcanas that don't have an established s-link. Also possible through fusion errors. And Judgment still hasn't been established yet this ep.

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Originally Posted by thundrakkon

It's a little confusing what just happened. Did the psycho guy really try to save Nanako? He mentioned something about the fog, and Nanako's health deteriorated outside the TV world.

So maybe bringing them into the TV world after they have been chosen by Midnight Channel is a way for them to survive? In that they have to conquer themselves in order to become complete. If that is the case, then since Nanako did not complete that task, it is understandable why her health declined.

Also, I am guessing the fog is following Nanako, hence it become greatly foggy in the real world.

A lot of what you ask should be explained in future eps. However, the anime never really showed that the fog comes into the real world at a certain point after each dungeon opens up. You see this in game, and it vanishes the same night. Except this time, it hasn't and is worse than ever as was explained this ep.

Dengar · 2012-03-10, 04:38

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Also Devil Survivor 2 is out for those who still kept their NDS and so far have been lots of fun for me.

If you had not mentioned this. I would probably never have known about it.

com_gwp · 2012-03-10, 09:37

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If you had not mentioned this. I would probably never have known about it.

The sad thing about some really good JRPGs...they never get the marketing they deserve

Episode pretty much covered what was expected. Yep, looking forward to next week with ya'll gamers.

Meltyred · 2012-03-10, 10:47

Nooo....
Namatame, you retard, speak in coherent sentences and not make those kids confused dammit.
Also Adachi, I am starting to think you are leaking those detail about the case on purpose....

ookamigirl · 2012-03-10, 11:43

That Taro guy is a total nut job.
Yu getting controlled like that was pretty bad.
Nanako was the only one that brought him back to his senses.
The fights were nice.
Seems like the two worlds are more closer now.
The whole fog thing is kinda weird.

SilverSyko · 2012-03-10, 13:33

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Originally Posted by thundrakkon

So maybe bringing them into the TV world after they have been chosen by Midnight Channel is a way for them to survive? In that they have to conquer themselves in order to become complete. If that is the case, then since Nanako did not complete that task, it is understandable why her health declined.

There's actually one thing Teddie said this episode that you should take into consideration:

"Nanako is still small...so her other self (shadow) didn't appear like everyone else..."

This implies that Nanako isn't old enough for her to have a hidden "shadow side" festering in her mind yet, so facing herself would have been impossible from the beginning.

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Game rules do allow fusions into arcanas that don't have an established s-link. Also possible through fusion errors.

First of all, this is the anime, not the game. It's been shown that Yu can only summon Persona from arcana he has already obtained.

Secondly, Lucifer is the ultimate Judgement Persona, so in the game Yu can't even fuse it until he maxes out the Judgement social link.

rpgman1 · 2012-03-10, 14:29

Persona Yu Narukami have at this point in the anime (up to ep. 22):
Fool: Izanagi
Magician: Jack o' Lantern
Chariot: Ara Mitama
Strength: Rakshasa
Moon: Yamata no Orochi
Priestess: High Pixie
Emperor: King Frost
Lovers: Leanan Sidhe
Temperence: Genbu
Hermit: Arahabaki
Tower: Abaddon
Death: Mot
Devil: Beelzebub
Star: Saturnus
Fortune: Atrophos
Sun: Tam Lin
Hierophant: Kohryu
Justice: Sraosha

Still has a very few Arcana left anyway and I'm not sure how are they going to be presented.

JohnNiles · 2012-03-10, 16:29

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Originally Posted by com_gwp

The sad thing about some really good JRPGs...they never get the marketing they deserve

Episode pretty much covered what was expected. Yep, looking forward to next week with ya'll gamers.

Yeah, it wasn't that heavily advertised. I signed up for the email list on the Atlus USA website- that's how I get my reminders. The game's kicking ass!

Persona 4 rerelease for Vita will probably have a higher profile.

ranran · 2012-03-10, 16:35

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Originally Posted by rpgman1

Persona Yu Narukami have at this point in the anime (up to ep. 22):
Fool: Izanagi
Magician: Jack o' Lantern
Chariot: Ara Mitama
Strength: Rakshasa
Moon: Yamata no Orochi
Priestess: High Pixie
Emperor: King Frost
Lovers: Leanan Sidhe
Temperence: Genbu
Hermit: Arahabaki
Tower: Abaddon
Death: Mot
Devil: Beelzebub
Star: Saturnus
Fortune: Atrophos
Sun: Tam Lin
Hierophant: Kohryu
Justice: Sraosha

Still has a very few Arcana left anyway and I'm not sure how are they going to be presented.

Thank you for listing that out, I never play the game so this is really helpful.

Anyway, episode 22 was amazing, great amount of drama. Cant wait to see how things end, but at the same time I don't want this anime to end D8

Divini · 2012-03-10, 16:41

I... felt that last scene in ep.22 more than in the game.

Definitely because of Yu's reaction (vs a silent protagonist)

Kanon · 2012-03-10, 16:58

Excellent episode. The ending hit me hard. Out of all the characters they could kill, they chose the most innocent one for maximum impact. And it worked.

com_gwp · 2012-03-10, 17:46

I realize now we're not going to get any kind of romantic resolution. Disappoint. At least pick one Yu, they're all into you.

jeroz · 2012-03-10, 18:29

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Originally Posted by com_gwp

I realize now we're not going to get any kind of romantic resolution. Disappoint. At least pick one Yu, they're all into you.

what are you on about?

isn't it obvious in this episode that he picked

Spoiler for hmm:

2012-03-09, 21:40	Link #2201
ars89 One-Eyed Dragon Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: NJ, USA	Why! Never thought a P4 ep would have me at tears. How can they do that? __________________ My Anime List

2012-03-10, 02:08	Link #2206
Jazzrat Bearly Legal Join Date: Jun 2004	Episode 22 delivers the drama quite well, eventhough knowing the story beforehand it is still heart wrenching to see the last scene (which i shall not name the spoiler). Glad to see Tam Lin gets an appearance at last which is one of my favourite early game demon to use especially in the Devil Survivor series. Also Devil Survivor 2 is out for those who still kept their NDS and so far have been lots of fun for me. __________________

2012-03-10, 02:23	Link #2207
thundrakkon Anime-Only Viewer Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA	It's a little confusing what just happened. Did the psycho guy really try to save Nanako? He mentioned something about the fog, and Nanako's health deteriorated outside the TV world. So maybe bringing them into the TV world after they have been chosen by Midnight Channel is a way for them to survive? In that they have to conquer themselves in order to become complete. If that is the case, then since Nanako did not complete that task, it is understandable why her health declined. Also, I am guessing the fog is following Nanako, hence it become greatly foggy in the real world. __________________

2012-03-10, 11:43	Link #2212
ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	That Taro guy is a total nut job. Yu getting controlled like that was pretty bad. Nanako was the only one that brought him back to his senses. The fights were nice. Seems like the two worlds are more closer now. The whole fog thing is kinda weird. __________________ My Blog --> ookami

2012-03-10, 16:58	Link #2218
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Excellent episode. The ending hit me hard. Out of all the characters they could kill, they chose the most innocent one for maximum impact. And it worked. __________________

2012-03-10, 01:41	Link #2205
rpgman1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Age: 43	That t-shirt reminds me of Vash the Stampede's motto: "Love & Peace". It's completely ironic for the 'savior'. How did Kunino-sagiri knew about Kohryu?

2012-03-10, 10:47	Link #2211
Meltyred Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011	Nooo.... Namatame, you retard, speak in coherent sentences and not make those kids confused dammit. Also Adachi, I am starting to think you are leaking those detail about the case on purpose....

2012-03-10, 14:29	Link #2214
rpgman1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lawrenceville, GA Age: 43	Persona Yu Narukami have at this point in the anime (up to ep. 22): Fool: Izanagi Magician: Jack o' Lantern Chariot: Ara Mitama Strength: Rakshasa Moon: Yamata no Orochi Priestess: High Pixie Emperor: King Frost Lovers: Leanan Sidhe Temperence: Genbu Hermit: Arahabaki Tower: Abaddon Death: Mot Devil: Beelzebub Star: Saturnus Fortune: Atrophos Sun: Tam Lin Hierophant: Kohryu Justice: Sraosha Still has a very few Arcana left anyway and I'm not sure how are they going to be presented.

2012-03-10, 16:41	Link #2217
Divini Senpai! Join Date: Mar 2007	I... felt that last scene in ep.22 more than in the game. Definitely because of Yu's reaction (vs a silent protagonist)

2012-03-10, 17:46	Link #2219
com_gwp Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010	I realize now we're not going to get any kind of romantic resolution. Disappoint. At least pick one Yu, they're all into you.