2009-05-14, 00:09 | Link #521 | |
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But the goku jr. vs. Vegeta jr. at the end of GT kinda negates that statement. What Waking_dreamer said is pretty much the real reason. I don't even think Akira Toriyama ever drew a full blooded female saiyan |
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2009-05-14, 14:07 | Link #523 | |
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Every goddamn episode is so good,first time i watched it i had tears when they reached the bug planet ;d |
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2009-05-15, 21:43 | Link #524 | |
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2009-05-17, 00:02 | Link #526 |
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Very true. At first, I found reversing Goku back into being a child somewhat forgivable, but it soon got annoying. My irritation was later reinforced by some whacked out character outlines, such as Goten being too immersed in dating, Vegeta growing a stache... etc.
When GT nerfed every Z fighter aside from Goku however, was the breaking point for me. That was it. While Goku may have been the hero, the other Z fighters were not entirely worthless without his presence. In GT, everyone was dumbed down, and even occasionally proved to be more of an obstacle than aid. Then they forced Buu off by having him merge with Uub? Why? Uub was utterly boring, not to mention him being next to worthless throughout the entire show. And Vegeta... oh, what have they done to him! I can go on, but I'd be typing a book if I do. *Sigh* You know, it takes a special kind of anime to actually extract this much rant from me... GT is one of them. - Tak
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2009-05-17, 01:07 | Link #527 | |
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2009-05-17, 03:09 | Link #528 | |
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At the end, the rest of the Saiyan warriors became just curious onlookers. They were never really useful, while Vegeta, the allegedly 2nd strongest of the heroes, lagged behind Goku so much that he remained at SSJ2, which is not very Vegeta-like considering their rivalry. Moreover, it was not until the last couple episodes did he finally gain the ability to transform into SSJ4, but even so, it was done through artificial means. Anyway, GT should just be forgotten and deleted from our memories. - Tak
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2009-05-17, 03:46 | Link #529 | |
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also Anybody else got the feeling that they made Goku seem kinda cold and detached from his family and friends at the end. His goodbye was so...casual. As if the prospect of never seeing any of them ever again wasn t painful for him and all. I was a bit dissapointed about that. |
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2009-05-17, 12:27 | Link #530 |
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Well, he did basically shrug off his family at the end of DBZ to go train this random kid he'd never met before. Plus, he let both of his sons, his friend's son, and his friend/true father figure for his oldest son die so that he could save Dende and random Hercule.
Granted that was just a plot hole so Hercule could be useful, and so Goku could save the day rather than Gohan, but still. Granted, the only part of anything after Cell Saga that I liked was Gohan gaining Mystic power and Videl, but still. |
2009-05-17, 14:12 | Link #531 | |
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Toriyama knew where to end the story, and that is why following the introduction of a youthful Trunks & Gotens in the Buu arc, the DBZ saga ended before it start sucking. GT was an exercise of over-killing the concept. The obvious intention for GT was to milk money, which did not end up being particularly successful. - Tak
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2009-05-17, 15:07 | Link #532 |
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I think I read an interview once where Toriyama admited that by the time Dragonball ended, and I think he means the manga here, it was already starting to lose popularity (so it had past it s prime). DBZ the anime continued for at least another year. If they knew this why did they continue with GT.
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2009-05-17, 15:37 | Link #534 | |
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And why they made Gohan go SSJ is beyond me. He is not supposed to go SSJ any more because he is already at his highest power potential with his mystic enhancement. However, due to Toei being incompetent and disregarding this information, they made Gohan on par or arguably weaker than the likes of Vegeta, Goten, and Trunks, which really made no sense since he is far stronger than said individuals. Amen to that. So has anyone here seen DB Kai Episode 7? I enjoyed this episode immensely, for we got to see Goku catch Bubbles and hit Gregory, some good filler scenes with Piccolo training Gohan in the wilderness and the earthlings training on Kami's lookout, and Baba (who is now voiced by Mayumi Tanaka - the voice actress of Krillin and Yajirobe) having a discussion with Master Roshi and Bulma. Best of all, Vegeta and Nappa will land on Earth in the next episode according to the preview. We're soon to be in for one heck of a ride everyone.
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2009-05-17, 16:10 | Link #535 | |
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2009-05-17, 16:12 | Link #536 |
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So Vegeta and Nappa will land next episode then? Good news. We'll be in for one hell of a couple of months after that.
As for all this GT talk, the only part i liked about it was Super 17, though that's basically because i loved 17 in DBZ.
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2009-05-17, 17:45 | Link #538 |
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Man if they actually wanted to show some fillers they could have inserted the whole Yamcha, Tien, Krillin and Chaotzu training cuz' we will be seeing less humans then usual.
Guess Bleach is getting to me and making me wish that every minor character had a decent fight but you can't change manga. GT was only good to check out Vegeta's mustache, that was pretty funny. Everything else was a big pain.
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2009-05-17, 19:39 | Link #539 | |
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Hey people just waiting what the fansub will do with the It's over 9,000 xD
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2009-05-17, 20:09 | Link #540 |
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GT ended in a mess too, especially that whole 100 year break. Suddenly Pan doesn't recognize Bulma's descendants? Or even Capsule corp? Am I supposed to accept that, despite Goku's departure, the two families never came into contact with each other again?
That, and I just hope people don't start shipping DB... - Tak (because there were some who were trying to ship Pan x Trunks... and that was just wrong)
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