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o 四巻 読み終わったか、おめでとう~。さあ、あとは八巻(涼宮ハルヒの憤慨)が発売される前に既刊全巻を読破する こと。ちなみに憤慨の発売日は04/28だそうです。( ̄∇ ̄)ノ(Amazon) Spoiler for volume 4:
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2006-04-21, 18:47 | Link #63 | |
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Vol1 ending does has its appeal- almost like an epic feeling? Spoiler for novel:
On the other hand, Vol4's Spoiler for novel:
Maybe KyoAni will pull a rabbit out of a hat and combine those two? (Nah....)
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2006-04-22, 01:55 | Link #67 | |
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2006-04-22, 19:49 | Link #69 |
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*before episode 4 airs*
My hypothesis- 1話 朝比奈ミクルの冒険 2話 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱Ⅰ 3話 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱Ⅱ 4話 涼宮ハルヒの退屈 I 5話 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱Ⅲ 6話 笹の葉ラプソディ 7話 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱Ⅳ 8話 涼宮ハルヒの退屈 II 9話 涼宮ハルヒの溜息Ⅰ 10話 涼宮ハルヒの溜息Ⅱ 11話 射手座の日 12話 涼宮ハルヒの消失Ⅰ 13話 涼宮ハルヒの消失Ⅱ 14話 涼宮ハルヒの消失Ⅲ I have a feeling KyoAni might try to do the following- intro Yuki=> shows her power with the baseball game => intro Mikuru => shows her power with the bamboon incident => intro Itsuki => shows his power by the dimension demonstration + island => filming The rest are just wild guesses. I don't think 涼宮ハルヒの消失 will have three episodes. The book itself is very short (only 2/3 - 3/5 the thickness of 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱 volume). Furthermore, the story itself is too short for three episodes. Personally I think the studio can finish it in one episode if they want.
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I had to get this stuff out of ep3 discussion.
Another interesting explaination to why is it we human typically are dull and are square, thus failing to see quantum indeterminacy in a universe where the interminacy laps on top of one another going from microscopic to macroscopic and it'll go like an inifinite recursion... (von Neumann's crisis) * Wigner's friend resolves the inconsistency by asserting that human consciousness not only measures the physical world, but physically changes it from an indeterminate state to an absolute environment. This is known as the Consciousness causes collapse theory. (Esse est Percipi, to be is to be perceived!) * According to the Copenhagen interpretation, humans created the quantum state vector because it was the only known way to describe the subatomic world mathematically, but there is no catastrophe because quantum mechanics doesn't exist in any real sense. * The Many-worlds interpretation asserts that humans don't notice the indeterminate state of the universe because all possibilities but the one we observe happen in other dimensions that are beyond our ability to directly monitor. * The Bohm interpretation avoids catastrophe and allows for determinism without splitting the universe into many worlds by asserting that the positions of particles are fixed by latent variables that are definite in cause and effect, but which can only be calculated in terms of probability by humans. (Like how that we don't know the exact formula for drop rate in MMORPG but we do know of the probability for drops) * The Transactional interpretation allows for only one measurement while also permitting the existence of the entire wavefunction by requiring that the observer only detect the part of the source wave that phases positively with his own advanced wave. (We filter anything else as just noise... or we can't 'see' it) Spoiler:
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Spoiler for Novel 3: Lone Island Syndrome:
Shoushitsu was the story that hit me the most emotionally. I really want them to go into Kyon's emotions as much as possible. If Shoushitsu is done as well as the novel is then it would be the 'pay off' arc for all the people who have grown accustomed to and fallen in love with the characters. Even if they don't use the predicted 4 eps, to squeeze Shoushitsu into 3 eps would be the absolute minimum. 1 or 2 eps won't do it justice...
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"...it's so thin! OMG!" *grabs the first volume and lay them side-by-side* "WTF I got cheated out of my targeted enjoy time!" lol. But then again, the same thinning happened to Shak. no Shana novels, so.... :^) But 4 episodes? That is definitely way too long. Spoiler for you mean something like that?:
That is a bit long(a bit long?!) drawn out for my taste. I think they can manage it with 2 episodes. The studio doesn't want to slow the series down, after all/
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It's true that Yuutsu, as an "introduction" volume, contained more seperate (character specific) events, which makes it appear to have more contents than Shoushitsu. But really, other than the fact that Shoushitsu was focused only on a single incident, there are just as much contents in that volume as there are in Yuutsu. Personally, there has been more memorable events in Shoushitsu than Yuutsu for me, and for it to be summarized in only 1 or 2 episodes will definately not be doing it justice. |
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Well with the latest episode Sushi-Y's hypothesis of Yuu-utsu taking 6 eps is more or less confirmed. Then again since Kyo-ani has demonstrated the willingness to just jump forward and back almost willy-nilly along the timeline I guess it throws all trying to predict when each story in the episode lineup goes out the window Well here's my take on what stories will appear based on op/ed/website etc conjecture... 01 朝比奈ミクルの冒険 02 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱Ⅰ 03 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱 II 04 涼宮ハルヒの退屈 05 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱 III 06 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱 IV 07 ミステリックサイン (based on op "Emiri", placed here to mess up timeline like 退屈 did) 08 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱 V 09 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱 VI (based on "ep7" and op "また図書館に") 10 笹の葉ラプソディ 11 エンドレスエイト (based on website "15498") or 射手座の日 (no basis) 12 涼宮ハルヒの消失 I 13 涼宮ハルヒの消失 II 14 涼宮ハルヒの消失 III As such there doesn't seem to be enough episodes to put in all the stories that do have some sort of op/ed/website basis for them within 14 episodes without limiting Shoushitsu to 3 episodes.
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Then again, with this week's episode (with Haruhi's "episode 3" thing in the preview there) it's practically confirmed that Taikutsu (the baseball competition) is indeed the "7th" episode, which means that Yuutsu will more than likely run up to Ⅵ (憂鬱Ⅰ - Ⅵ), since nothing else ocurred between Yuutsu and Taikutsu. Unlike other non-critical, comedic side-stories (like this weeks baseball tournament) 笹の葉ラプソディ is too important of a story to be "shuffled in" between episodes of another serious story (憂鬱): the viewers will probably be left confused with two simultaneous ongoing events. So I agree with your placement by putting it after all the Yuutsu episodes. If that's the case, then really... we're not left with much room in the end here. 1 short-story + 3 Shoushitsu episodes... If I really had to pick, I would pick "Endless Eight" over "The Day of Sagittarius". But knowing Kyoani, they're probably capable of dishing out some mind-blowing SF space combat actions if they were to pick "The Day of Sagittarius", so I kinda want to see that too. Either way, I'm sure the one that gets chosen (if at all) will be handled nicely. As for the 3 Shoushitsu episodes... Ideally I'd preferred 4, but at this point I'm not picky anymore, I'll just shut up and act like the Kyoani believer that I am. |
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Unless Kyo-ani completely throws us a "Yuki-enhanced curve ball"... Is it possible for them to not do 消失, run with 憂鬱 as the main arc and sprinkle in the filler stories? In terms of no. of stories there's enough to conceivably do that, not to say that it will work of course for then there's no 'nice conclusion' when things are rearranged chronologically...
01 朝比奈ミクルの冒険 02 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱Ⅰ 03 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱 II 04 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱 III 05 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱 IV 06 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱 V 07 涼宮ハルヒの憂鬱 VI 08 孤島症候群 09 ミステリックサイン 10 笹の葉ラプソディ 11 エンドレスエイト 12 射手座の日 13 涼宮ハルヒの溜息 I 14 涼宮ハルヒの溜息 II (not arranged in any order) About "The Day of Sagittarius", the sci-fi battles I keep on picturing something like whats described in the latter chapters of Ender's Game when Ender and his jeesh each control a group of battleships.
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For first-time watchers, this might not matter as much, since they wouldn't really know what they're missing out on anyway; but the absence of 消失 will definately bring disappointment for the novel-readers. Most of the fans out there also generally believe that the anime will use 憂鬱 as the main plot, achieve a "first-half" climax by using its ending, and then finish up with 消失 (a hint would be the Christmas hot-pot shot in the ED) (although you could argue that the actual hot-pot scene didn't happen until Snow Mountain Syndrome) The producers down at Kyoani are also fans of the novel themselves (a reason why they did it), so I hope they know that 消失 is what the fans want and not skip out on it. |
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Episode 4 basically cemented the fact that Haruhi likes Kyon to whatever degree. Beyond that, we get a small glimpse of Haruhi's power.
So let's feed the speculation machine for a moment, what if say hypothetically, Kyon is "killed" in a future episode, what do you think would transpire from such an act? |
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