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Old 2008-09-19, 17:23   Link #11941
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I approve this post. But this is only my personal opinion.

I still think that Suzaku is the best pilot in code geass. And he uses his Live Geass in the good way now. Unbeatable (imo) when his opponent has the same kind of knightmare.
Narona, you think you being a lady you would side with Kallen and the fairer sex on this one. I will say that studies have shown that female pilots handle G Force better than men and they also have a lower center of gravity, so don't count those ladies out
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Old 2008-09-19, 17:24   Link #11942
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Narona, you think you being a lady you would side with Kallen and the fairer sex on this one. I will say that studies have shown that female pilots handle G Force better than men and they also have a lower center of gravity, so don't count those ladies out
I am not a feminist.

And we're talking about Kururugi "Gorilla" suzaku, not the average good pilot with an average strong body.
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Old 2008-09-19, 17:27   Link #11943
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I am not a feminist.

And we're talking about Kururugi "Gorilla" suzaku, not the average good pilot with an average strong body.
lol, well I wouldn't say Ms. Kallen is your average everyday FEMALE pilot either.
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Old 2008-09-19, 17:27   Link #11944
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Just because he's a good fighter doesn't mean he has a strong body. He just has good reflexes.
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Old 2008-09-19, 17:29   Link #11945
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Just because he's a good fighter doesn't mean he has a strong body. He just has good reflexes.
Exactly, I don't think I would be a good pilot and I'm gym animal... ok, I used to be wicked strong.
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Old 2008-09-19, 17:29   Link #11946
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I am not a feminist.

And we're talking about Kururugi "Gorilla" suzaku, not the average good pilot with an average strong body.
Kallen has a very stong body as well. I mean, she was able to cut a bee in three pieces by a swing of her hand. I'm not saying it's as strong as Suzaku, but it's apparently always been good enough to keep her even with Suzaku when they pilot similar machines.
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Old 2008-09-19, 17:30   Link #11947
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Just because he's a good fighter doesn't mean he has a strong body. He just has good reflexes.
It was stated many times that he is strong IIRC. Even in R2 when he saved lelouch and shirley.

IIRC, Lelouch called him "you, gorrilla" something like that.

Well, I'm off, comparing Kallen to suzaku, as if she was as strong as him, seem ridiculous to me <_<
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Old 2008-09-19, 17:32   Link #11948
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It was stated many times that he is strong IIRC. Even in R2 when he saved lelouch and shirley.

IIRC, Lelouch called him "you, gorrilla" something like that.

Well, I'm off, comparing Kallen to suzaku, as if she was as strong as him, seem ridiculous tp me <_<
I'm just giving you a hard time, I know he is supposed to be strong, but I can't see how, because he is skinny as a rail.
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Old 2008-09-19, 17:34   Link #11949
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I'm just giving you a hard time, I know he is supposed to be strong, but I can't see how, because he is skinny as a rail.
That's the magic of code geass my friend.

Kallen is slim too. And there is no way a slim and skinny girl like her can be so strong.

Character look in code geass is not a good argument.
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Old 2008-09-19, 17:39   Link #11950
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That's the magic of code geass my friend.

Kallen is slim too. And there is no way a slim and skinny girl like her can be so strong.

Character look in code geass is not a good argument.
There is not always a 100% correlation to mass and strength, but in the top levels there is . When I used to wrestle in high school, I wrestled this guy who looked like some body-builder was not that strong. On the other hand I wrestled a kid that worked on a farm and he was stout. It has something to do with the ligaments.

But all the characters are going to be skinny if Clamp is involved.
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Old 2008-09-19, 17:39   Link #11951
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I think everyone knows Suzaku is much stronger than Kallen physically...
but that shouldn't count as a huge advantage in knightmares too much..I think..
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Old 2008-09-19, 17:42   Link #11952
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Eh. We'll see in two days.
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Old 2008-09-19, 17:43   Link #11953
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i think he "beats" her in that he gains an adventage
but he doesnt take her out (for some other reason)
the reason is that he needs to get to the damocles before she does for the plot to make sense
she gets there later in the ep (think ep 24 of last season)
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Old 2008-09-19, 17:44   Link #11954
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I think everyone knows Suzaku is much stronger than Kallen physically...
but that shouldn't count as a huge advantage in knightmares too much..I think..
It counts I think. That's why Rakshata thought that no one could push the shen hu to the limit. (and Li apparently can't)

But I guess the albion and seitten are a bit different.

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There is not always a 100% correlation to mass and strength, but in the top levels there is . When I used to wrestle in high school, I wrestled this guy who looked like some body-builder was not that strong. On the other hand I wrestled a kid that worked on a farm and he was stout. It has something to do with the ligaments.

But all the characters are going to be skinny if Clamp is involved.
That's what I was trying to say, comparing the look of clamp characters with real persons is pointless.
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Old 2008-09-19, 17:48   Link #11955
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Well looks like people are having a hard time deciding the outcome, all I can really say if Kallen finds out what Lelouch is doing before her battle with Suzaku she has a chance, if she doesn't all bets are off
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Old 2008-09-19, 17:48   Link #11956
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i think he "beats" her in that he gains an adventage
but he doesnt take her out (for some other reason)
the reason is that he needs to get to the damocles before she does for the plot to make sense
she gets there later in the ep (think ep 24 of last season)
Suzaku has no need to get to the Damocles. Lelouch is the one going there.
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Old 2008-09-19, 17:50   Link #11957
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I just think that the whole 'Live on' Geass is something that has to fail at some point; otherwise, it's just too powerful. At any rate, the summary says they 'confront' each other. That to me sounds like more than just fighting; they may very well end the fight themselves before the conclusion.

(Not likely, but possible.)
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Old 2008-09-19, 17:51   Link #11958
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both are going there
and as far as the fight goes
kallen beats him at first until his geass clicks in
at which point he destroys the arm and the fights gets broken apart by someone (maybe orange) since suzaku's the one who goes after lelouch to make sure they finish what they promised
kallen goes after them a little later
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Old 2008-09-19, 17:52   Link #11959
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Well...without her arm, Kallen's useless. All she has are the Harkens and her speed. The arm has...every combat function of the Frame.
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Old 2008-09-19, 17:53   Link #11960
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both are going there
and as far as the fight goes
kallen beats him at first until his geass clicks in
at which point he destroys the arm and the fights gets broken apart by someone (maybe orange) since suzaku's the one who goes after lelouch to make sure they finish what they promised
kallen goes after them a little later
Very unlikely imo, but we will see.
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