Gundam 00: A wakening of the Trailblazer - Expectations and Speculation

[console65]

Does anyone else notice that Quanta's arms are different. I'm kinda convinced that it has do with the sword on one arm but the artists don't usually include that in the drawings.

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Originally Posted by console65

Does anyone else notice that Quanta's arms are different. I'm kinda convinced that it has do with the sword on one arm but the artists don't usually include that in the drawings.

What's different about them?

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

What's different about them?

He's commenting on how the right arm has a large plate attach to its underside while the left arm does not.

[SonicSP]

Originally Posted by console65

Does anyone else notice that Quanta's arms are different. I'm kinda convinced that it has do with the sword on one arm but the artists don't usually include that in the drawings.

That depends on the design of the weapon as well.The mount may actually be with the sword or on the body,this is a case of the latter.Besides,it contrasts nikcely with the shield in my opinion.

Originally Posted by GundamFan

Well I did a little reading online today about the 00 7 swords and I gotta say I don't think there going to do the R3 anymore not when they have it now that they can run the 00 off a single GN engine and a condenser.

Yes,but 00's performance under that setting is severely weakened due to the lack of a Twin Drive.Also Trans-Am cannot be used.

Frankly,I wonder also if they have to change all of 00's internal Condensrs,since those are specialised to be used with a high capacity system like the Twin Drive,

Originally Posted by GundamMeisterLockon

wouldn't it be cool if the sword bits could teleport? i mean jus imagine the swords bits are chaseing down the bad guys and then the bad guys try shooting them down causeing the sword bits to teleport right behind them and slice them down.

No.

Originally Posted by rocawarde

Ok, does anyone got an idea of why 00Q does not have any visual thrusters

I just don't get it, looks like it will clip on something more. But i can't think of where 00Q exhaust its GNP

That backpack at the back could be it,

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

What's different about them?

Hes referring to the blue gauntlet thing on 00Q's right arm.

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Oh crap you're all right...I just noticed that now...I wonder what they're planning with that.

[shezzybizzle]

I suspect that the gauntlet on 00Q's right arm houses some GN Sub machine guns similar to those found on Arios.

[GundamFan]

Originally Posted by SonicSP

Yes,but 00's performance under that setting is severely weakened due to the lack of a Twin Drive.Also Trans-Am cannot be used.

Frankly,I wonder also if they have to change all of 00's internal Condensrs,since those are specialised to be used with a high capacity system like the Twin Drive,

I agree that 00 would be greatly weakened but even at 50% of it's former strength 00 would be a real beast compared to none Trans-Am Exia and Trans-Am has time limit that's alot less I imagine the 00 on a condenser. Also let's face it the Exia isn't very intimidating anymore the 00 on the other hand probably could still shake up some ESF pilots a little just by showing up.

I imagine they had to make quite a few changes to the 00 considering how much trouble they had getting it to run without the Raiser. That's why I orginaly assumed we would be looking at an Exia R3 everything I had read before today made it pretty indicated that without the twin drive system the 00 couldn't run.

[rocawarde]

Originally Posted by shezzybizzle

I suspect that the gauntlet on 00Q's right arm houses some GN Sub machine guns similar to those found on Arios.

I was thinking that the sword would be on the right arm and the left would have some kind of rifle. Im hoping abilities very similar to GN Sword III rifle mode

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Originally Posted by shezzybizzle

I suspect that the gauntlet on 00Q's right arm houses some GN Sub machine guns similar to those found on Arios.

Eh, that I dobut. Why put it on one arm, and not that other?

[Principalities]

About the character designs. Anyone recognize the two individuals (long hair and short hair) beside Meleina and Kathy?

[Ypocaramel]

Still no pics of the 00Q'se weaponry though aside from fangs. I'd be surprised if it doesn't have a GN Sword of some type.

[RES-01 Perses Gundam]

Originally Posted by Ypocaramel

Still no pics of the 00Q'se weaponry though aside from fangs. I'd be surprised if it doesn't have a GN Sword of some type.

Agreed. Since it's stipulated to be a close combat mobile suit, 00 Qan[T] has to have some sort of a GN sword.

[furato]

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

Also got some nice drawings of the new character designs.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4057/...3ec0fd1cbe.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/...76c6175c86.jpg

I gotta say, the Qan T has a very synthetic look to it.

Posted that a few days ago, along with the fanartist's site address: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...93#post2851093

I feel the need to emphasize that they're fanart, because I've seen quite a number of people thinking it's official. Toyworld slapping their logo on it is aaaarrrghhhh. I know this is the internet where people like stealing and pirating stuff, but crediting is the least decency one can do towards other's work.

[Gilgamesh00]

Originally Posted by RES-01 Perses Gundam

Agreed. Since it's stipulated to be a close combat mobile suit, 00 Qan[T] has to have some sort of a GN sword.

00 Qan [T] GN Sword Bits is an evolution of the seven swords, and have 2 large GN swords bits I believe it can also be used as swords then 00 Qan [T] will be like Gilgamesh of Fate Stay Night able to use his swords bits like swords and also use them as fangs, yes this is a close combat unit.

[RES-01 Perses Gundam]

Originally Posted by Gilgamesh00

00 Qan [T] GN Sword Bits is an evolution of the seven swords, and have 2 large GN swords bits I believe it can also be used as swords then 00 Qan [T] will be like Gilgamesh of Fate Stay Night able to use his swords bits like swords and also use them as fangs, yes this is a close combat unit.

You are speaking quite an alien language that I half understands.

I assume that the GN sword bits will only act as secondary and support weapons. In the first trailer, the 00 Qan[T] was shown to wield an unknown type of GN sword on its right arm.

I know large GN sword bits can act as swords for the mobile suit, but rather than using them as primary weapons, why not wield a solid GN sword that can provide both artillery and melee combat abilities, and let the GN sword bits provide further artillery and "spam" capabilities.

Moreover, the designers have always drawn Exia-line mobile suits without additional equipments. I would not bet against 00 Qan[T] having GN sword IV. You also have to take into account Setsuna's original guerrilla way of combat.

[SonicSP]

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

Eh, that I dobut. Why put it on one arm, and not that other?

Probably because its special design equipment,like the shield.It looks rather fitting I must say.

Originally Posted by RES-01 Perses Gundam

You are speaking quite an alien language that I half understands.

I assume that the GN sword bits will only act as secondary and support weapons. In the first trailer, the 00 Qan[T] was shown to wield an unknown type of GN sword on its right arm.

I know large GN sword bits can act as swords for the mobile suit, but rather than using them as primary weapons, why not wield a solid GN sword that can provide both artillery and melee combat abilities, and let the GN sword bits provide further artillery and "spam" capabilities.

Moreover, the designers have always drawn Exia-line mobile suits without additional equipments. I would not bet against 00 Qan[T] having GN sword IV. You also have to take into account Setsuna's original guerrilla way of combat.

I'm pretty sure the sword on the right arm will be its primary weapon,and probably have a good gun somewhere in there too,like all GN Swords.

I also cannot see Qan[t] without any beam saber capability as well,so if it does not have any traditional beam sabers,I would expect the next GN Sword to have it like the last 2 models.

But considering it has 6 Sword Bits already,I'm pretty sure they'll keep the 7 sword concept again with the main sword.

I dont think the Bits look like they have any beam range capability,does not look like they'll have it.Hopwe not too,because I dont like the idea of Qan[t] having Fangs,butif the Sword Bits were to simly be flying daggers than thats pretty cool,because thats Setsuna's favourite move.Not to mention,its useful that they can penetrate Fields,and may even provide good weapon while inside an Anti Field.

Originally Posted by GundamFan

I agree that 00 would be greatly weakened but even at 50% of it's former strength 00 would be a real beast compared to none Trans-Am Exia and Trans-Am has time limit that's alot less I imagine the 00 on a condenser. Also let's face it the Exia isn't very intimidating anymore the 00 on the other hand probably could still shake up some ESF pilots a little just by showing up.

I imagine they had to make quite a few changes to the 00 considering how much trouble they had getting it to run without the Raiser. That's why I orginaly assumed we would be looking at an Exia R3 everything I had read before today made it pretty indicated that without the twin drive system the 00 couldn't run.

The problem here would be,00 Gundam with an unstable Twin Drive System was a bit off than its full potential,so a 00 without the Twin Drive System at all will be even worst.

Without the Twin Drive System,00's attack capabilities will be even far worst,the thing that gives 00 its strenghth is the Twin Drive,without it your looking at something that was designed to work at high performence levels and not getting it.

Hell,00 may even get an operational time limit,because that 2nd Condenser will have run out eventually since 00 takes up so much juice,and to recharge it again will take some time,time in which 00's only Drive cannot provide enough power to it as its charging its other Large Condenser,leading either to a halt in performance or the closest to 0 performance you'll ever have.

An Exia on the other hand,is suited for a single Drive configuration.........well because it was designed for it.It can use that one Drive to its fullest performance,even Trans-Am.So you'll have a machine that was designed for use for optimal performance under a certain condition,and getting that said condition fufilled.00 will require some patching up,modifications under a condition on which it was not designed to operate in.Exia's strength would be not be that it can use Trans-Am but because it can function well with true and tested technology and conditions,Trans-Am is a bonus.

We're not sure how good a single Drive 00 will react in real combat for long periods either even if it can function well.By the end of the day,00 is a prototype already.And your going to force the prototype in a condition that it wasnt evend esigned for,that really dangerous and from a maintanence standpoint alot can potentially go wrong even if it does fly good for the 1st couple of hours.I think the HRL Tieren priciple may be sort of applied here,reliability over tested technology rather than power over newer but less reliable technology[Your not even using the new technology,your using the new technology in a way it wasnt suppose to,which makes the potential unstability even worst].

Not that I want or think that an Exia will show up in the movie or be repaired again for that matter.,but I'm just stating things as I see it.



Having said that,I actually wonder despite what the Gundam 00 Geneology told us,if 00 Qan[t] actually is 00 Gundam but upgraded.There Are some things that are almost the same.The part between the wrist to before the shoulder is almost the same[With the addition of a gauntler on the right arm],the feet are the same,the legs are almost similar with the joint near the knees modified a bit and 2 blue armor pieces added.I was still thinking about that line in the 1st Senki Chapter about 00 Gundam being upgraded to fit Setsuna now being an Innovator.I'm still thinking its referring to 00 Gundam Repair,but my mind is wandering about the possibility of it saying that 00 Gundam itself will be upgraded,and that form may possibly be Qan[t].[Hell,they even kept the 00 part]

Of course,I don't think this is the primary case for now,but my mind is entertaining the idea as a remote possibility.

[GundamFan]

Well Sonic I agree with you that Exia is proven design but the rate that suits tend to advance I still think it might be to old to keep up but I also think the 00 could easily have major problems because of the alterations to the orginal system like you stated. It seems to me like a situation where either way you go it could easily blow up in your face.

As far as the Qan T being a rebuild of the 00 that's very interesting idea hard to really tell at this stage if it's a rebuild or just the next suit in the line.

[SonicSP]

Well,yeah.I'm not really for Exia going another go at things but basically I'm just saying that another normal single Drive suit may be the safer option than 00 Repair with a single Drive.

But if Dynames can be up to date to the 5th Generation,I dont think see why Exia can't,although I do think that when you use the base model of something even upgraded you will have limitations.

Like a computer,you can upgrade it with new cards and RAM and stuff but you can only do this up until a certain period,there comes a time where your going to need buy a new computer just to be able to make it compatible with the latest stuff.Even the new upgraded things you out in your older computer may not work as well as if they were put on a new computer.

That,and insurance companies check how many times you rebuilt your mobile suit and detract it out of the overall value.

[Rising Dragon]

I find it curious that the Dynames Repair lineart appears to not have any of the same upgrades as the Exia R2 did; namely, the internalized power distribution system. Its hard to spot, but if you check its side on the image of the back view, you can see the GN-Cable there exposed. Same as the cable on the back of the upper arm and elbow joint.

[SonicSP]

Well,maybe we'll get a more updated version later.

Either that,or cost cutting measures.Bad economy afterall,even fictional organisations can get affected.