2011-04-06, 03:32 | Link #381 | |
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2011-04-06, 05:34 | Link #382 | |
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2011-04-06, 08:18 | Link #383 | |
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2011-04-06, 09:09 | Link #384 |
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So far I really like Ohana, but I don't like Minko who tells people that they should die, with the grandmother, I think she's a bit like the adults in Glass no Kamen (hey, Ohana is spirited like Maya, so Grandmother=Tsukikage?), who believes that whips works better than carrots.
The fact that Ohana, who is two generations younger and have moved from the very modern city to the country, to a very traditional job and grandmother, seems to set up a conflict of old culture versus new culture, and how Ohana (who has no respect for the wisdom of her elders, or at least, no reason to respect her elders considering her mother and her mother's boyfriend) will learn that young people haven't learned everything yet, but also that the grandmother will learn that using positive reinforcements might not just be a thing lazy whippersnappers thought out. Also, I can see that the harshness from Minko and the cook is a reflection of grandmother's punitive managing style. If Minko doesn't do everything perfect, the cook catches the heat, for example. I think they will soften as Ohana settles in (and maybe the grandmother softens as well). |
2011-04-06, 09:20 | Link #385 |
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I wasn't listening that closely to the voices for Ep1, but it took me a bit to recognize Mamiko Noto, since she was downplaying her wispy style that is her telltale. I finally heard a bit of it at the end of one of her sentences and knew then.
I really like Ohana so far. Very realistic for a 16yo girl, without being condescending or misogynistic. And even though she's not had any experience with a job before, or even knew what she was getting herself into out here, she is trying to get through it. Major points for asking for punishment as well, and saying "Thank you sir may I have another" |
2011-04-06, 09:29 | Link #386 | |
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This episode will probably set up a new vs. old culture conflict like you said. Personally, I want Ohana to make her eat crow, earning her respect in the process. Surprise the Grandma by basically making her realize how stubborn she's been. Stun her using these 'foolish' new age concepts. Make her realize that there are other ways to get respect. Basically stuff like that. The most interesting part of this whole thing IMO will be the personal relationship between Ohana and the Grandma. It's going to be a long and windy road in that regard.
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2011-04-06, 11:25 | Link #387 | |
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2011-04-06, 11:57 | Link #389 |
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The whole grandma talk is reminding me of this article
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I'm not saying they are wrong about this issue, but they have to understand that this is still relatively common practice, and is no real reason to hate the Grandmother. It was simply the way things were done in her generation. That said, some kids I see in public places that are incredibly disrespectful/disruptive these days really could stand a few spankings. It is pretty sad to see a parent cave in to there kids demand because there kid throws a fit if they don't comply. Quote:
Slapping them at that age is about the only viable form of corporal punishment, it is something that can't be shrugged off and is humiliating when others are present to witness it.
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2011-04-06, 14:08 | Link #395 | |
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One of my nephews recently graduated from high school, and while talking to him about kids "acting out" (what a ridiculous term) I was surprised to learn that he had never gone to a public school with corporal punishment. I guess I really am getting old because I graduated high school less than twenty years ago, and the last time I was paddled was in the tenth grade! There was no permission required from parents either, I was taken out by the shop teacher and paddled with a board from the wood pile. My, how times change. |
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2011-04-06, 14:32 | Link #396 |
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At least part of the problem with kids you see making scenes is that the parents either A, cave, or B, don't much care. Seen it a million times. That has nothing to do with whatever punishment they end up not administering to the child in question. Only that none gets administered.
I imagine (hope!) that this subject will get screen time to feed our discussion. Interesting tidbit: There are states in the US where corporeal punishment of some kind is still legal in public schools, if rarely used. And finally, I'll hate who I damn well please. I can always change my mind later.
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2011-04-06, 15:08 | Link #397 | |
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I do think that most kids can thankfully be effectively disciplined with out any corporeal punishment, but there are some kids that sadly won't listen to reason. I've seen some young kids that seem to respect absolutely nothing but sheer physical force, and the implementation thereof. Of course, such kids may turn out horrible any way, but corporeal punishment may be the only way to keep them in line at all while they're kids. All of the above being said, I think that corporeal punishment's effectiveness greatly lowers as the child grows older, and is perhaps always inadvisable for teenagers. Spanking, in particular, is not a wise choice for disciplining a teenager, for what I think are pretty obvious reasons.
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2011-04-06, 15:12 | Link #398 |
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Corporal punishment has been pretty much debunked by developmental psychology, and an employer never has any right to hit her employees.
That being said, I'm sure granny will be shown to have a sympathetic side later.
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2011-04-06, 15:18 | Link #399 | |
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But you use it when nothing else works in the moment, and you need to get the child to settle down and stop misbehaving. And like it or not, that still happens sometimes with some kids. Just like not all adults will listen to reason (and hence need to be arrested and sent to jail), not all kids will listen to reason either (and hence corporeal punishment may be needed). Now, that's not to defend the grandmother here. Ohana is quite able to listen to reason, I think. So in this case, corporeal punishment is almost certainly inadvisable.
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