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Old 2011-07-17, 12:37   Link #32941
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So the ball's in my court? This might be no three-pointer, but hey, butter!Yui needs to be buttered. Slowly and patiently.

Aaaand we're here! The finale! This finishes my first contribution to the Hayate x Vivio Files. This was a nice story to write, mostly because I got to write what I really enjoyed while deathcurse plunged into the stuff I would have had enourmous difficulties writing. Thanks mate! *writer-fist*

What more to say? I'll be writing more, no point in jumping ship now when I've helped to set so many things in motion. Also, I do recommend you to re-read Part 5: One Mama Laughs Best if you cannot recall what happened. Things We Tame were written to be read as a one-shot to begin with and I think that it generally flows better if you read two or three parts in one go.

Now, onwards! To brave new skies!

The Things We Tame
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'Men have forgotten this truth,' said the fox. 'But you must not forget it. You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed.'
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Previous parts:

Prelude: Not Today
Part 1: Team Takamachi
Part 2: When I Get Home There had Better Be Kisses
part 3: Headbands
part 4: Mama Knows Best
Part 5: The Other Mama Laughs Best


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Old 2011-07-17, 13:30   Link #32942
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So the ball's in my court? This might be no three-pointer, but hey, butter!Yui needs to be buttered. Slowly and patiently.

Aaaand we're here! The finale! This finishes my first contribution to the Hayate x Vivio Files. This was a nice story to write, mostly because I got to write what I really enjoyed while deathcurse plunged into the stuff I would have had enourmous difficulties writing. Thanks mate! *writer-fist*

What more to say? I'll be writing more, no point in jumping ship now when I've helped to set so many things in motion. Also, I do recommend you to re-read Part 5: One Mama Laughs Best if you cannot recall what happened. Things We Tame were written to be read as a one-shot to begin with and I think that it generally flows better if you read two or three parts in one go.

Now, onwards! To brave new skies!

The Things We Tame
By Shigan

'Men have forgotten this truth,' said the fox. 'But you must not forget it. You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed.'
Antoine de Saint-Exupery


Previous parts:

Prelude: Not Today
Part 1: Team Takamachi
Part 2: When I Get Home There had Better Be Kisses
part 3: Headbands
Part 5: One Mama Laughs Best


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A good ending for an excellent story. I liked how in the end, Hayate came to see Vivio off, and how Vivio had all of the answers she needed; also liked the nice touch of her team finally finding out who she was with, and simply accepting it as it was. It shows just how much they trust and care about Vivio, to not let it bother them. Will we be seeing more of them? I rather liked them.

Also, I now demand a short where Hayate actually gets Vivio into a French maid uniform, because it would be hilarious.
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Old 2011-07-17, 13:59   Link #32943
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Old 2011-07-17, 14:07   Link #32944
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Hard to imagine that it all started from one, simple story. Not even Vivio/Hayate, just a joke on the idea, and now it actually grew solid. Wow.You and dc make an amazing pair for the V/H files; care to start ringing wedding bells? xD
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Old 2011-07-17, 14:08   Link #32945
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yuiseppe- great picture as always.


shigan-very nice end. You managed to show Vivio's maturity, and a little bit of Hayate's vulnerability (not the word I want, but thanks to numerous birthday shots I can't think of a better one at the moment). Anyways, it was a good read.
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Old 2011-07-17, 16:26   Link #32946
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Do not apologise. It didn't last long. My inner-pervert-old-man won out pretty easily after all. Granted, this had been boiling for weeks now... thanks to you guys here... *glares*

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So the ball's in my court? This might be no three-pointer, but hey, butter!Yui needs to be buttered. Slowly and patiently.

Aaaand we're here! The finale! This finishes my first contribution to the Hayate x Vivio Files. This was a nice story to write, mostly because I got to write what I really enjoyed while deathcurse plunged into the stuff I would have had enourmous difficulties writing. Thanks mate! *writer-fist*

What more to say? I'll be writing more, no point in jumping ship now when I've helped to set so many things in motion. Also, I do recommend you to re-read Part 5: One Mama Laughs Best if you cannot recall what happened. Things We Tame were written to be read as a one-shot to begin with and I think that it generally flows better if you read two or three parts in one go.

Now, onwards! To brave new skies!

The Things We Tame
By Shigan

'Men have forgotten this truth,' said the fox. 'But you must not forget it. You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed.'
Antoine de Saint-Exupery


Previous parts:

Prelude: Not Today
Part 1: Team Takamachi
Part 2: When I Get Home There had Better Be Kisses
part 3: Headbands
Part 5: One Mama Laughs Best


Spoiler for Duty's Call:


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It is officially a good day for fans of this series! Yui's art is, as always, and that was a nice wrap-up to this segment of the series, Shigan. I especially like that you spent considerable time inside Vivio's head for this story, which itself makes a nice balance for deathcurse's story since that one centers around Hayate as POV character.
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Old 2011-07-17, 17:08   Link #32947
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Not to be rude, and I'm not, but I just don't like Vivio as a character. I dunno maybe she becomes better in Vivid but by the end of StrikerS I felt about the same for Vivio as I do for any other character I find annoying: I want them out of the story. I understand that Vivio was integral to the plot of StrikerS, but I just can't bring myself to like her at all; her character design seems nothing more to me than an intentional way to try and cash in on the moeblob craze at the time.

That said, everyone has their own opinions; if you like Vivio, that's great!

I bring this up because of all the Hayate/Vivio going on right now. Reading it... I dunno I'm still not sold on her. The stories are fine as they are, but I think I would just like them better if it was someone else other than Vivio.

I'm not bashing any of you for writing it, though, so please don't take this the wrong way. Different strokes, yeah? Heh. If you like what you're writing , then by all means write it! Love what you're writing, that's most important of all! I'm not going to read your story and go "omg fail HayaVivio trolololol". That's not my style after all

But this is coming from the guy who's convinced that Nanoha is straight, Hayate is bi, and Fate is only gay for Nanoha , so take anything I say how you will.

EDIT: For all of you that do like Vivio, help me not hate her? :3
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Old 2011-07-17, 19:44   Link #32948
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I just like the story; for characters I've always liked they are Nanoha (For her monologues in the original series, and since then I grew kinda attached to her) and Hayate (The heck with the low screen time she's getting, how unfair!), Fate for the art (Yes I'm not too impressed with her after A, and even before she's feels kinda... floaty. Lack of sufficient focus on the character) and Vita for destroying everything. The others hold no special place.

If you try to ignore Vivio in the original series and just focus on these stories, it should work. Vivio's character to me seems like an attempt to return to the old style Magical Girl (Or just imagine cartoons for kids below 10) where the MCs are hyper cheerful, optimistic, innocent (Considering dear Vivio beats up her mama and most people would never do that unto our deaths, not so much, but still), possess superhuman powers transcending humanity and monsters etc etc.

Perhaps the writer found too much angst in almost every main characters and tried to balance it with Vivio. Who knows.
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Old 2011-07-17, 19:48   Link #32949
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Not to be rude, and I'm not, but I just don't like Vivio as a character. I dunno maybe she becomes better in Vivid but by the end of StrikerS I felt about the same for Vivio as I do for any other character I find annoying: I want them out of the story. I understand that Vivio was integral to the plot of StrikerS, but I just can't bring myself to like her at all; her character design seems nothing more to me than an intentional way to try and cash in on the moeblob craze at the time.

That said, everyone has their own opinions; if you like Vivio, that's great!

I bring this up because of all the Hayate/Vivio going on right now. Reading it... I dunno I'm still not sold on her. The stories are fine as they are, but I think I would just like them better if it was someone else other than Vivio.

I'm not bashing any of you for writing it, though, so please don't take this the wrong way. Different strokes, yeah? Heh. If you like what you're writing , then by all means write it! Love what you're writing, that's most important of all! I'm not going to read your story and go "omg fail HayaVivio trolololol". That's not my style after all

But this is coming from the guy who's convinced that Nanoha is straight, Hayate is bi, and Fate is only gay for Nanoha , so take anything I say how you will.

EDIT: For all of you that do like Vivio, help me not hate her? :3
... actually, I've never cared for Vivio either. I always got the uncomfortable impression you could replace her in the plot of StrikerS with a Lost Logia without really changing the plot significantly, and that's never good in my book.

That said, I really like what some of the authors on this forum have done with Vivio (Dezo's 'Steel Queen' series being the eternal front-runner. Amazing writing. ). I just don't find the character herself appealing.
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Old 2011-07-17, 19:57   Link #32950
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Well I once wrote in the Vivid manga thread that Vivio is one of the least interesting character there (despite it being her series ), aaand...well I must confess she never really interest me here either. I guess whether it's fanon or canon, what's interesting for me are those who interact with her (and how!) instead of Vivio herself

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Well that certainly seems to be what had happened with Clyde and Graham

Uh oh. *casts suspecting glances at Lindy, Leti and Genya*
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Old 2011-07-17, 20:04   Link #32951
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Admittedly, I find Vivio daunting to write simply because I don't really care about her either way. I like her as a character and I think she has a lot of potential to develop and grow with the right person handling her, I just don't tend to think I do her very well at all. It's part of the reason why Lutecia is more or less the main character of Shadowverse and why I'm dreading having to develop Vivio further once "Ascension" kicks off.
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Old 2011-07-17, 20:15   Link #32952
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Vivio -is- a bit of a wildcard. She literally has no personality in StrikerS so if you want to keep the characterization canon, well, good luck. I found the HxV Files a rather easy write mostly due to that deathcurse handled a superb characterization of her in her two initial shorts, all I did was move on from there.

On the other hand, looking at Vivio's canon characterization is never truly a good way to write her. Most of the people who've done longer works on her have cast her in an age of approximately 15, give or take a few years. In my case here, she's 19. The age difference compared to the crybaby we see in StrikerS demands a little imagination from both the writer and the reader's part. ^_^ The good thing is you can write Vivio in very different way, and depending on your skill as a writer, can still make her work.
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Vivio -is- a bit of a wildcard. She literally has no personality in StrikerS so if you want to keep the characterization canon, well, good luck. I found the HxV Files a rather easy write mostly due to that deathcurse handled a superb characterization of her in her two initial shorts, all I did was move on from there.

On the other hand, looking at Vivio's canon characterization is never truly a good way to write her. Most of the people who've done longer works on her have cast her in an age of approximately 15, give or take a few years. In my case here, she's 19. The age difference compared to the crybaby we see in StrikerS demands a little imagination from both the writer and the reader's part. ^_^ The good thing is you can write Vivio in very different way, and depending on your skill as a writer, can still make her work.
Unless you're me, where I just make her a side character.
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Then the question is why did you use her at all? If you don't care about someone no one will blame you for ignoring them. There's plenty of characters I haven't written about because I feel no need to.
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Ironically enough, Nanoha somewhat suffers the same effect. I mean, hell, she didn't get any actual character development or personal crisis until StrikerS.

Sorta like Vivio is right now.
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Ironically enough, Nanoha somewhat suffers the same effect. I mean, hell, she didn't get any actual character development or personal crisis until StrikerS.
Well, she did have that life-threatening injury that apparently crippled her somewhat, but we actually don't see much of that except for when it's relevant to Teana's character development, if I remember correctly. Honestly, sometimes I feel like Nanoha's strongest character trait is that, well, she supports other characters.
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I feel like Nanoha's strongest character trait is that, well, she supports other characters.
This ^_^. Funny, I always thought Subaru was the main character in StrikerS and not Nanoha. She just sorta ninja'd the show.
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This ^_^. Funny, I always thought Subaru was the main character in StrikerS and not Nanoha. She just sorta ninja'd the show.
Well, Subaru and Teana did get the most focus and/or character development of StrikerS, when compared to all of the new characters who showed up.
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Old 2011-07-17, 20:44   Link #32959
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Well, Vivio was like 6 in StrikerS, and had been basically engineered to be a weapon and nothing else, so her having little personality sort of makes sense. Even after Nanoha first meets her, they're together what, a couple days? Can't exactly get much there. Probably why she's the main character of ViVid, really.

And I mentioned this before, but Nanoha can be considered a Supporting Protagonist (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...ingProtagonist), since most of her purpose in the series is affecting other people with her actions.
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Old 2011-07-17, 20:54   Link #32960
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Ironically enough, Nanoha somewhat suffers the same effect. I mean, hell, she didn't get any actual character development or personal crisis until StrikerS.

Sorta like Vivio is right now.
Ah, but even Nanoha had one trait, her virtue as well as vice, that made her more memorable than her adopted daughter: her chronic hero syndrome . For the sake of helping others she would go to the extremes whether it be training or actual combat.

Vivio doesn't even have that.
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