Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei LN - Archived Discussion

[EnigmaticAxiom]

Spoiler for AlaAlba:

I am surprised Mibu and Kirihara get together, seeing what happened in the first volume.

[AlaAlba]

Originally Posted by EnigmaticAxiom

Spoiler for AlaAlba:

I am surprised Mibu and Kirihara get together, seeing what happened in the first volume.

Spoiler for mibu:

me too . Mibu got her eyes set on Tatsuya first but feel she have got no chances seeing how powerful Tatsuya is, and how cold Tatsuya is . While Kirihara feels responsible of what happened to Mibu, visiting her at the hospital every day, and so it started there I guess

And oh they're not from volume 4 ain't they, it's volume 1, lol, I forgot.

[bludvein]

Originally Posted by EnigmaticAxiom

Spoiler for AlaAlba:

I am surprised Mibu and Kirihara get together, seeing what happened in the first volume.

Spoiler for and...:

Id like to know how THAT pairing happened as well. That was a whammy I wasn't expecting.

[Kleeyook]

Originally Posted by AlaAlba

Spoiler for other:

well, in short
Isori Kei; a fiance of Kanon, a CAD engineer like Tatsuya, second year. His family is one of hundreds family. He got shot in the back, fatally wounded, he'd be dead if Tatsuya didn't help him on arc 3.
Chiyoda Kanon; 2nd year, prefect, family also hundreds family. Isori's fiancee. Her magic, "Mines Creator".
Kirihara Takeaki; 2nd year, the guy from volume 4, her specialty is sonic blade. Leg got cut off on the same attack as Isori above.
Mibu Sayaka, 2nd year, also from volume 4 or so, Kirihara's girlfirend after that.

Thanks!

Spoiler for Kirihara:

I believe that we were first introduced Kirihara at the end of LN vol. 1 when he fought against Sayaka. He was quite a jerk back then. I have no idea how come they became couple in vol. 2 after such a fight.

I wish Tatsuya had some kind of fiance too. I found it boring if there's no rival to Miyuki throughout the series.

[Kna]

Originally Posted by Kleeyook

Thanks!

Spoiler for Kirihara:

I believe that we were first introduced Kirihara at the end of LN vol. 1 when he fought against Sayaka. He was quite a jerk back then. I have no idea how come they became couple in vol. 2 after such a fight.

I wish Tatsuya had some kind of fiance too. I found it boring if there's no rival to Miyuki throughout the series.

Just my wishful thinking but it would be good if author add romance subplot in it. Heck, I wouldn't even mind if Tatsuya has a harem... I mean a good MC like this deserves one.....not the typical weak-will coward wishy-washy shonen MC who get the girls to fall for him for no apparent reason.

and btw I don't like Sayaka pairing at all.. it seems forced and out of nowhere. In Mari's case it's believable. In Sayaka's.... not so much

[FRS]

It doesnt looks like the author is going for a harem trick (and i am quite glad), so maybe one rival at most, the council president maybe?

[whsie]

Spoiler for Kirihara:

Kirahara was shown to always be infatuated with Sayaka. It's highly evident at the end of volume 2. As for Sayaka and Tatsuya, Sayaka's father wanted Tatsuya to "take care of her", but Tatsuya declined. The father then said, "Just forget it then. Think of it as a wishful thinking on part of a father."

As for Tatsuya, Honoka definitely likes him. Mayumi has shown hints here and there (Mari always teases her). Shizuku has shown an interest. There's definitely love interests aside from Miyuki, it's just that the light novel itself doesn't dive into them. It prefers to stay on the scientific and action side of things.

[Kleeyook]

Well, Lelouch has a harem, he's just not really interested and is too much of a siscon. But at least he dates Sheryl, steals the heart of 3 other girls (CC, Kalle and the princess) and admit he knows how they feel about him. It's still a harem setting nevertheless, just a more decisive protagonist who knows his priority.

In Tatsuya's case, his priority is the same as Lelouch, destroy his own insane family and protect his imouto.

I'd be really disappointed if the whole series only focus on Tatsuya x Miyuki when there are quite a lot of girls interested in him.

[bludvein]

Its kind of hard to have any kind of convincing romance when your MC is near emotionless. Tatsuya is one cold fish, with the exception of in regards to Miyuki.

Unless he gets his emotions back somehow, and I don't see how that could be done, it seems unlikely that he will end up with anyone.

[bietchie11]

I like the harem setup too.
About Mibu, even if she is rejected by our MC, that doesn't mean see need to find the replacement right away.
That is too forceful.
Same go for other girls.
Seem like the author is obsessed with making them unavailable.

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by bludvein

Its kind of hard to have any kind of convincing romance when your MC is near emotionless. Tatsuya is one cold fish, with the exception of in regards to Miyuki.

Unless he gets his emotions back somehow, and I don't see how that could be done, it seems unlikely that he will end up with anyone.

i think i remember it being mentioned earlier in the thread that he was slowly getting some emotion back or something along those lines.

[Richocet]

^Yes he is trying to slowly regain his emotions now...bt I wonder if as he regains them will he be able to use them more normally like others as well, like the others

[Kleeyook]

Spoiler for MC:

I just hope he'd be able to see pushion like Mizuki with his eyes once he regained his emotion.
I kind of wonder how the author will make this novel more interesting to read when the protagonist is so powerful that no one in Japan seems to be a match to him in 1 vs 1 fight. maybe introducing more war-level magicians from other countries. But then again, why would they bother coming to fight him.

[Valky]

Originally Posted by Kleeyook

Spoiler for MC:

I just hope he'd be able to see pushion like Mizuki with his eyes once he regained his emotion.
I kind of wonder how the author will make this novel more interesting to read when the protagonist is so powerful that no one in Japan seems to be a match to him in 1 vs 1 fight. maybe introducing more war-level magicians from other countries. But then again, why would they bother coming to fight him.

Spoiler:

Hmm. You have a point. So far there's no reason for the other war-level magician to fight him. Even Lina's reason to fight him is a little weak. But, perhaps in distant future? Maybe something like World War? Seems fun to see, World War full of magicians that is.

[tsunade666]

Spoiler:

it's been said that there are 50 war-class magicians in the world but only 12? or is it 13? apostles? not sure on it are registered war-class magicians. Other tend to be secretive like Tatsuya being a military secret.

[Morisato]

Who is Lina again? I read through all the spoilers in this thread but I don't think it was mentioned who Lina was.

Spoiler for Tatsuya powers:

Also Tatsuya's special nuke ability and decomposition. Does the military put some seal on him to restrict his powers or he needs special military equipment to use it or is it just some verbal agreement that he won't use his powers. That is, if he wanted to, he could use the nuke anytime he wants (with consequence) right?

[EnigmaticAxiom]

Originally Posted by Morisato

Who is Lina again? I read through all the spoilers in this thread but I don't think it was mentioned who Lina was.

Spoiler for Tatsuya powers:

Also Tatsuya's special nuke ability and decomposition. Does the military put some seal on him to restrict his powers or he needs special military equipment to use it or is it just some verbal agreement that he won't use his powers. That is, if he wanted to, he could use the nuke anytime he wants (with consequence) right?

Spoiler for Lina:

Lina is the North American (US/Canada) war-class magician sent over to China to investigate what happened during Scorched Halloween (I believe that's why she was sent over, at least)

Spoiler for Tatsuya's ability:

As for Tatsuya's powers, yes, I believe he can technically use it whenever he wants. The problem is that his power is too destructive that if he were to use it on pretty much anything within his range of sight, he would be caught in the blast that would inevitably kill him. The Military puts a restriction on the Third Eye CAD which provides him with the accuracy to use his ability at a distance safe where he would remain safe.

[Morisato]

Originally Posted by EnigmaticAxiom

Spoiler for Lina:

Lina is the North American (US/Canada) war-class magician sent over to China to investigate what happened during Scorched Halloween (I believe that's why she was sent over, at least)

Spoiler for Tatsuya's ability:

As for Tatsuya's powers, yes, I believe he can technically use it whenever he wants. The problem is that his power is too destructive that if he were to use it on pretty much anything within his range of sight, he would be caught in the blast that would inevitably kill him. The Military puts a restriction on the Third Eye CAD which provides him with the accuracy to use his ability at a distance safe where he would remain safe.

He can't regenerate from his own blast?

[EnigmaticAxiom]

Spoiler for Morisato:

I don't believe he can, because being caught in Material Burst would pretty much vaporize his body immediately. There wouldn't be any time for his healing ability to kick in, no matter how quickly it activated.

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Complete up to the end of the second arm (LN Volumes 3/4). Thanks again for everything raptor and whsie!

[whsie]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

Spoiler:

it's been said that there are 50 war-class magicians in the world but only 12? or is it 13? apostles? not sure on it are registered war-class magicians. Other tend to be secretive like Tatsuya being a military secret.

Spoiler for answer:

The 13 apostle thing was mentioned in the later arcs. After Web 3, there is currently 12 apostles because one of them just died.

Generally speaking, apostles are publicly recognized war-level magicians. In effect, they serve the role nuclear weapons in our current world- a deterrence. To be at the level at one, you need to have a highly unique magic with highly destructive capacity on a grand scale. For example, Tatsuya's "Material Burst" qualifies while Miyuki's A level "Inferno" and the Crimson Prince's A level killing magic "Explosion" don't. At the same time, the problem is that registered war-level magicians are prime-time targets to be assassinated since they are considered military treasures. This is part of the reason why countries prefer to keep their war-level magicians hidden (like Tatsuya) and why there are roughly 38 unregistered war-level magicians. Also, by hiding their unregistered war-level magicians, countries can hide their real military prowess (like Japan did to China).

These nuclear like magicians were described by Kazama to Kudo when he compared the Crimson Prince to Tatsuya. The Crimson Prince is a combat-level magician who can hold down a fort by himself against a batallion of soldiers. On the other hand, Tatsuya's capability is similar to a strategic missile. The scale and scope of their powers are simply incomparable.

Also, immediately after Tatsuya defeated the Crimson Prince in the competition, the two military soldiers (in disguise), who were keeping a watch on Tatsuya to make sure he doesn't reveal military-secret magics, had a conversation. At first, they were talking about how amazingly fast Tatsuya's auto-regeneration kicked in. It happened so fast that no one noticed it including themselves and they were sure that it happened so fast that it probably slipped under Kudo's eyes as well. The only reason they knew that it activated is because they know Tatsuya has this ability and it's the only explanation for why Tatsuya was immediately able to fight again after taking the Crimson Prince's attack. They told themselves that there is only one other person (not the other war-level magician in Japan) in the army that could activate magic that fast. They then further explain that Tatsuya's magic casting speed is on another level because he activates magic from memory and skips all the complicated calculations. Even that other military person that they referenced earlier could "barely keep up" with Tatsuya.

There was also this section in the conversation,
"After one of the person remarked how "strong" Tatsuya's body was, the other person said, 'Even so, we can't treat him like an experiment subject. He is one of the two military treasures that this country has (referring to individuals here and the other military treasure referred to is that girl from the "Five" family). Even in the whole world, there are supposedly about fifty treasures with such military power.'"

Unlike earlier when the conversation was about casting speed, this conversation here is about people on par with Tatsuya's magician abilities and therefore the other war-level magicians. To be on par with Tatsuya's magical abilities, you need to be able to accomplish the scale of damage Tatsuya did in Web 3 and Web 4, which was classified by Kazama as war-level, and according to these two military personnel, there are 50 magicians in the world with similar military power. Since there is only 13 (at that time in the story) registered war-level magicians then what happened to the other 37 or 38 including Tastuya himself? Well, they're obviously not registered.