Gundam Build Fighters Try (Second Season) - General Discussion

[Frontier]

That Fumina, Shia, Gyanko, and Mirai chocolates .

Sekai's one lucky sonovagun in that he's got three girls who'd likely give him chocolates. Four if you count Mirai as likely to give her brother chocolates .

[Tactics]

Taken from GG

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I like overall sharp and rough design. Thanks to Junya, my favorite CQC Gundam now

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Another form of gattai in GBFT. LOL.

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[Skye629]

Originally Posted by Tactics

Taken from GG

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I like overall sharp and rough design. Thanks to Junya, my favorite CQC Gundam now

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Another form of gattai in GBFT. LOL.

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How is a color swap a Gattai? Thats just a Justice with a Freedom color scheme, not an actual mix of the two

[Patriot's Blade]

you know the Justice in Freedom Phase Shift colors sort of makes sense in a way that because both of them are sister units, so is it by a sheer coincidence that Athrun is destined to pilot red Gundams including the Saviour or that's just his custom PS Armor programming like how Kira set the Strike Rouge in Strike Gundam colors, he really loves the Aegis's colors so much?

also MEGA FUSION!!, King J-Der!!!

[bio9205]

Any idea what's the Denial based off of? I can see some visual cues (especially the proportions) from the Hyaku Shiki, but I'm not entirely sure.

Oh, and HGBF Denial Gundam (with hair wings of light effect parts) plz Bandai

[Rising Dragon]

The front of the torso almost feels like a civilian-use Astray. The helmet sections of the head are a modified Gundam AGE-FX's.

[Skye629]

Originally Posted by bio9205

Any idea what's the Denial based off of? I can see some visual cues (especially the proportions) from the Hyaku Shiki, but I'm not entirely sure.

Oh, and HGBF Denial Gundam (with hair wings of light effect parts) plz Bandai

Well the core head and torso seems to be from an unfinished build from the Build Fighters A side manga (a unit the Second was working on)

The limbs and waist armor are probably original

[Rising Dragon]

Oh, I know. I'm just saying the physical base seems to be from the AGE-FX. The sides of the helmet feel modified from it, as does the top of the helmet, while the V-fin is pretty clearly taken from the AGE-FX and added to. Faceplate's original, though.

[bio9205]

I knew it was familiar, anything from AGE just didn't cross my mind. Makes sense given that they'd already used the Vagan Gear. Looks incredible, though! I'm really loving the MS designs from Try.

[Knight_SV]

i thought denial gundam head more like modified arios

[Blazer-X]

Hmm, I am seeing more of a modified Hi-Nu for the head. Legs definitely feel more Age-like though. Arms are still very similar to Burning. Not sure what to make of the chest though.

[Knight_SV]

I don't see any resemblence with hi-nu head, and after seeing denial gundam official lineart yesterday is arios that comes to my mind. Don't forget junya resembles allelujah/hallelujah and have the same seiyuu

[Skye629]

Originally Posted by Knight_SV

I don't see any resemblence with hi-nu head, and after seeing denial gundam official lineart yesterday is arios that comes to my mind. Don't forget junya resembles allelujah/hallelujah and have the same seiyuu

Oh no wonder he sounded so damn familiar lol

[Patriot's Blade]

Originally Posted by Skye629

Oh no wonder he sounded so damn familiar lol

well to me in this one he sounds like a really angry old man ,
& there has been like two Kyrios Gundams used by two different people in both seasons so missed opportunity VA jokes there Allelujah trained under Domon but got rejected, oh my sides

[bio9205]

Originally Posted by Knight_SV

I don't see any resemblence with hi-nu head, and after seeing denial gundam official lineart yesterday is arios that comes to my mind. Don't forget junya resembles allelujah/hallelujah and have the same seiyuu

Originally Posted by Skye629

Oh no wonder he sounded so damn familiar lol

Yeah, his voice was bugging me, now it makes sense.

[Skye629]

Is the AGE-FX and Denials mech designer the same person? Because I see similarities in design aesthetics, but thats about as far as it goes

The two are way too different when examined close up (I spent a good ten minutes examining the linearts and screenshots from the series) to the point its completely different to the trained eye (someone who pays a ton of attention to the design details and the shows)

Even if it is an FX core build, its to the point where you mind as well call it original, like the G-Portent to the Exia

[Rising Dragon]

I never said that it was based off of the AGE-FX entirely. Only that the head was, most notably in the forehead connector for the V-fin, which itself has two extra antennae attached. The torso looks like a civilian Astray, and I can't really place the rest.

[bio9205]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

I never said that it was based off of the AGE-FX entirely. Only that the head was, most notably in the forehead connector for the V-fin, which itself has two extra antennae attached. The torso looks like a civilian Astray, and I can't really place the rest.

The forearms and the proportions match the AGE-FX pretty well, too, but other than that I can't really tell.

[Rising Dragon]

So, due to the recent discussions concerning Lady Kawaguchi pushing for a rivalry between Fumina and Shia, I've been considering the reasons why she'd do such a thing. One thing that comes to mind though is that I think that, ultimately, Fumina will defeat Shia.

And I think that's what Lady Kawaguchi wants to happen. I do believe that she'll choose Shia as her successor depending on how she reacts to that loss. And why?

If she's indeed looking for a successor, then Shia is almost perfect for the job. She's a superb builder and incredibly skilled as a fighter. She cares for the creation of Gunpla, and even goes so far as to not want to damage them if she can help it. She's even got a showy personality and she likes to stand out in battle, hence her posturing and posing before and after the battles. What's there left to judge?

Well, what would be left is seeing Shia lose, and seeing how she handles losing. Is she as graceful in accepting a loss as she is in battle? I imagine Lady would want to know, because being the Kawaguchi isn't about winning. Tatsuya has spent his tenure as the Meijin trying to disassociate winning at all costs from the title, and I'm certain that Lady understands this. Neither of them would want a repeat of the second Meijin. So among many reasons as to why she'd want to build Fumina up and set her against Shia in battle is so Shia can be defeated, and see if she's really ready for the role of Lady Kawaguchi.

[Tactics]

Originally Posted by Skye629

Is the AGE-FX and Denials mech designer the same person? Because I see similarities in design aesthetics, but thats about as far as it goes

AGE units designed by Kanetake Ebikawa, Junya Ishigaki, and Kenji Teraoka.
Denial Gundam designed by NAOKI who designed Nu Vrabe, Hi-Nu Vrabe, SRSC's Dragonar units, Mega Shiki and Gabai Institute's Zaku(s).
NAOKI himself confirmed in his tweet that Denial is an original as well as his first original Gundam he designed, I haven't see anything about base gunpla.

Spoiler for As for in-universe information ...:

Surprisingly in Denial's page (picture I post before) is written that Denial is not created by Junya;
But Junya customized it to fit his combat style which involve various martial arts. Seems to confirm Denial is created by Second Meijin and not intended for CQC involving martial arts.

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

So, due to the recent discussions concerning Lady Kawaguchi pushing for a rivalry between Fumina and Shia, I've been considering the reasons why she'd do such a thing. One thing that comes to mind though is that I think that, ultimately, Fumina will defeat Shia.

And I think that's what Lady Kawaguchi wants to happen. I do believe that she'll choose Shia as her successor depending on how she reacts to that loss. And why?

If she's indeed looking for a successor, then Shia is almost perfect for the job. She's a superb builder and incredibly skilled as a fighter. She cares for the creation of Gunpla, and even goes so far as to not want to damage them if she can help it. She's even got a showy personality and she likes to stand out in battle, hence her posturing and posing before and after the battles. What's there left to judge?

Well, what would be left is seeing Shia lose, and seeing how she handles losing. Is she as graceful in accepting a loss as she is in battle? I imagine Lady would want to know, because being the Kawaguchi isn't about winning. Tatsuya has spent his tenure as the Meijin trying to disassociate winning at all costs from the title, and I'm certain that Lady understands this. Neither of them would want a repeat of the second Meijin. So among many reasons as to why she'd want to build Fumina up and set her against Shia in battle is so Shia can be defeated, and see if she's really ready for the role of Lady Kawaguchi.

Good analysis.



Come to think about it, she's indeed different from Wilfrid and Adou;
Shia didn't express anything regarding victory but seems happy to found another good female fighter as a rival.