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10 out of 10: Near Perfect... | 16 | 14.68% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent... | 30 | 27.52% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good... | 29 | 26.61% | |
7 out of 10 : Good... | 20 | 18.35% | |
6 out of 10 : Average... | 5 | 4.59% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average... | 2 | 1.83% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor... | 1 | 0.92% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad... | 3 | 2.75% | |
1 out of 10 : Torturous... | 3 | 2.75% | |
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2012-11-04, 16:43 | Link #146 | |
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Because you can't EVER put a damsel in distress without someone crying sexism. When it happens to a guy, it's fine. Who's the one with a double standard now? I'll say this again: Asuna is not breaking character, she did not suddenly become weak. Of course feminists apparently don't even follow the actual story and just see OH THE GIRL IS IN A CAGE IT MUST BE SEXISM. |
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2012-11-04, 16:59 | Link #147 | |
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2012-11-04, 17:25 | Link #148 | |
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I just got the immersion Dengar didn't think the word feminism was about equality. But it seems I was wrong. |
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2012-11-04, 17:51 | Link #150 |
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While I don't really agree with him, it's not like I don't understand Hako's complaints. He pointed out that Seanan McGuire article, which I think makes sense. His complain is probably similar with people complaining too much tsundere or too much moe or too much *insert cliche here*. On that sense, it's also understandable that some people are gritting about Suguha being introduced almost as if for the sake of being a failed love story.
In the world of fiction, there is such a thing as "overused tropes". For example, in the mistery genre, the clue about cigarette butts have become too commonplace that a lot of writer frowns their use, and/or considered "lazy writing" or "easy way out". And then things like "it's all a dream" or "flashes before his/her death", etc etc. The mere usage of these sometimes instantly blocks some people from reading it or giving it instant low scores, regardless of how well it's written. That's the "reality" of the world fiction, regardless of how one think it should be. Also guys, I know some complaints might get a little too repetitive (often about different people mentioning the same thing, in that case, is it repetitive or valid view point I wonder?) and maybe unreasonable but perhaps you should relent a bit on defending this show. That last banter was almost as if you guys are promoting rape. Also, please don't bring the "realism" card too often. People know how harsh reality is, is it so wrong that they want at least their fiction less as harsh? Does bringing in realism in a story such an instant deal-maker in making good stories? Fact is there are lots of ways to tell good sensible stories without relying too much on these so called "reality" aspect.
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2012-11-04, 18:17 | Link #151 | ||||
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2012-11-04, 18:29 | Link #152 |
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Well, at least rape isn't as over used as people dying in fiction as while there is now the threat of rape so is that rather pale compared to the 4000 or so people that already have died in this story. But people are so used to people dying in fiction that most doesn't even react to it anymore.
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2012-11-04, 18:30 | Link #153 |
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F me, Suguha is too fantastic for words. Though I understand why people dislike Recon, I can't help but root for the guy. Keep at it, buddy!
Also, this show brings yet another instance that causes me to flash back to my RO days. I was laughing my ass off when I saw the difference in logout times between the two. Kirito's logout/break lasted as long as my afk breaks (to eat and whatnot) did. The kind where some people wouldn't even notice you left! *insert standard pervert voice here* Though I enjoyed every second of Sugu's break... Kidding aside, I do plan on joining the discussion(s) currently going on as the arguments are both sound and compelling...I just haven't read everything yet!
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2012-11-04, 19:19 | Link #156 | |
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And I think I'm done on this topic, I think we've derailed this thread enough, and I dont want to give relentless anymore modding work to do. See y'all at the next episode. Ciao! |
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2012-11-04, 21:55 | Link #158 | |
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If rape had the same amount of entertainment media exposure as death, none of this would be an issue.
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2012-11-04, 22:07 | Link #159 |
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Well the Suguha fanservice continues to deliver. Of course overall increasing my sympathy for where things to be going for her. Going to have her fall for the same guy twice and get burned. With her only fallback option being Recon. Nice guy, but still feel like she'd be better off not ending up with anyone if he's the only choice left. Just feels like she's his keeper rather than a romance option.
Good that Kirito has enough cash left to upgrade equipment before going into this journey. Be nice if he could have held onto his old stuff, but that's how it goes.
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2012-11-04, 22:18 | Link #160 | |
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I really, really want to plead with everyone to stop this rape conversation because Sugou is not a rapist; he has not raped Asuna, and despite his creepy insinuations has shown no signs that he really will do so. That he insinuates that he might fantasize about it is already bad enough (whether he's just saying that to taunt her or not). He's a horrible character holding hundreds captive and manipulating memories so he can sell the technique to the highest bidder. He's also trying to marry into the Asuna family so he can take control of the family business (also purely for his own gain), has something of a god-complex, and enjoys messing with his "betrothed" who utterly despises him to the core. All that should give us plenty to talk about. But this "rape is less acceptable in fiction because people just aren't used to it" thing just makes my blood boil. I think that is trivializing the issue a whole lot more than anything that is or isn't portrayed in the show.
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