2010-02-24, 21:04 | Link #1061 | |
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Remember, it's not over yet... There is 5 episodes left and also a few bonus episodes up in the Sora no Woto pipeline.
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2010-02-24, 22:13 | Link #1062 | |
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2010-02-24, 22:34 | Link #1063 | |
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2010-02-25, 06:58 | Link #1064 |
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Recent developments in Sora no Woto bring me back to the time when episode 7 and 8 of Macross Frontier aired -- spectacular mecha battle and concert followed by high school hijinks and panty-chasing. At least Snw still has consistent character designs.
Should've expected something similar happening in SnW since some people in its staff was also in Frontier. There are also people from Elfen Lied, so it's remarkable that they held on to the pee for seven episodes before releasing. |
2010-02-25, 17:55 | Link #1066 | |
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Maybe it worked better for me since I wasn't a week between episodes; I watched episode 7 the day before I watched episode 8.
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2010-02-26, 03:10 | Link #1067 | |
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Back in Shakespeare's day, that very idea of mingling serious drama with melodrama with supernatural with comedy was mindblowingly original. That said, I am tolerant of magical girl shows so this doesn't really faze me too much. Except when the story has genuinely interesting expositions cut in by super cliche number 1 billion. |
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2010-02-26, 04:46 | Link #1068 |
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Hm. Episode 8 is disgusting RuleThirtyFour.
On a completely unrelated note, recently i start playing Civilization again, especially campaign maps simulating Europe during World War I (and/or II). From what the in-game encyclopedia tells me, it seems that during that time any sort of peace were fragile and people were always ready to get to their neighbors' throat. Any diplomatic blunder can lead to war that devastates the region as countries jumped into any land-grabbing opportunity, alliances dictate that members declare war against their allies' enemies, and people got dragged into wars that were ultimately pointless for them. And people actively tried to trip their neighbors into such blunders. I can sort of understand why Rio's daddy want to drag his daughter into saving Helvetia-- the more political pawns he has, the better for Helvetia. Hm... Sora no Woto made me study history of militarism in Europe.
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2010-02-26, 07:09 | Link #1072 | |
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Or if I was the writer and wanted some cliché reveal scene I would have Rio being blond all along and have her wash off the dye in some dramatic shot. |
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2010-02-26, 07:33 | Link #1073 | |
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One possible reason why Rio is stationed on Seize is to protect her. I have a feeling her sister Iria have something to do with it. Rio may not be close to her father but she is to her sister. If indeed her sister is dead Rio is the next heir. Thus we see two possibilities. Rio takes the throne or force towards a political marriage. |
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2010-02-26, 07:40 | Link #1074 | |
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2010-02-26, 14:08 | Link #1075 | |
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Some "cliche!" complaints I've never really understood. Some devices are "cliche" because quite simply, they work. That's why everyone uses them. I mentioned Shakespeare (or rather, Bikerider did and I agreed XD) as an example of the fact that comic relief really can work. Yes, it must be done right, but I don't see any problem with simply using it. I'm also not seeing the cliche flood you're seeing in Sora no Woto. I mean, if you're going to really nitpick specific elements you'd be hard pressed to find anything anywhere that really really really "has never been done before." And even if individual elements are cliche, personally I've found the combination of elements quite fresh. Slice of life + post-apocalyptic. One is about enjoying life, the other is generally about how much life sucks. The reconciliation of these two done-before genres I've found to be one of the most interesting points of SnW. Just my opinion of course. And anyway, as Midonin said: while originality is a factor, if you can use old tropes well, why not? (and by using them well, I also mean using them only where they work)
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2010-02-27, 02:38 | Link #1078 | |
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2010-02-27, 03:00 | Link #1079 | |
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The problem with Woto in terms of showing its cliche is that it's too by the numbers about it. For certain other shows, they do a better job of masking it as I see it. It's fine you would argue about the actual origins and whatnot, but I don't think that is why people are complaining. Like you say with Shakespeare, the thing with his style was that he masked the comedy within drama and drama within comedy. He literally knew how to mask one aspect of storytelling to the next, making it a fresh way of showing off his stories. While something like this show, it goes from dramatic exposition to cliche comedy relief by the numbers. That's not to say many anime do the same thing, because they do. Again, this really doesn't erk me that much either way, but some of the tropes in this show are just painfully ordinary if you look at them by their own element. |
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2010-02-27, 04:58 | Link #1080 | |
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