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The Green One · 2018-04-26, 04:55

Please no.....those get toxic enough as it is.

orion · 2018-04-26, 07:45

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Originally Posted by wuhugm

^The truth...

Less people will be able to see it. If they show the rape, the show will get a rating of 17+ (minimum). Right now, the show is probably 14+ in my country. Persona 4 (anime) in my country has an age rating of 13+.

wuhugm · 2018-04-26, 08:29

^Anime can simply rewritten it to be just violence then
Why persisted with keeping it ambigous but obvious rape?
Why asking for trouble?

orion · 2018-04-26, 08:55

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Originally Posted by wuhugm

^Anime can simply rewritten it to be just violence then
Why persisted with keeping it ambigous but obvious rape?
Why asking for trouble?

It's implied. We don't have to see things to know it happened. Most people would just assume it happened in the context of today's society as women are usually not just beaten when assaulted by men. The suicide attempt pretty much sealed it.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0c777f788d24f

https://www.rainn.org/statistics/vic...exual-violence

Besides, they also have to remain faithful to the source or the fans will be very upset at them.

Kanon · 2018-04-26, 10:37

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Originally Posted by The Green One

Please no.....those get toxic enough as it is.

It's all in good fun. We know there won't be any romance in this anime anyway.

pervypig · 2018-04-26, 12:08

Hay, chill... I might be wrong, but that's just cos I don't dig this kind of physical abuse in my hentai. Anyway, I never played P5, so I won't know, but how does metaverse works in P5? Could the heroes have stopped Kamoshita from beating up and totally not raping anyone inside the metaverse?

Twi · 2018-04-26, 12:24

Short answer: it's complicated.

They're not in the physical world when they're in the metaverse. It's the same thing in the other Persona series with Tartarus and the Tv World, they're different layers of existence that overlap each other, but you can't stop something from happening that's already happened. Well, except in Persona 3: FES, but that would have screwed the world.

Anyway, what they're doing is basically playing dominoes with cause and effect. Removing the treasure, as discussed in the episode, removes the source of what makes them distorted. That leaves the guilt and everything else behind and they no longer can filter it out, which Morgana pointed out would likely make him confess his crimes and return to being a normal human being. Morgana also points out that outright destroying/removing the all desires would cause a mental shutdown, so the treasure is the alternative to a more expedient solution of just killing the king and being done with it.

Dengar · 2018-04-26, 15:55

The heroes did not expect the thing with Shiho to happen. They were hesitating because Morgana told them that their actions may lead to Kamoshida's death. It was only after the thing with Shiho happened that they decided it was worth the risk. Regardless, even if they hadn't hesitated for a day, due to how palaces work, they would have needed a few days to get everything in order to be able to take the treasure in the first place, so there really was nothing they could have done to prevent it.

MeoTwister5 · 2018-04-26, 18:33

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Originally Posted by Kanon

It's all in good fun. We know there won't be any romance in this anime anyway.

Yep. Oddly enough after P2 Atlus never committed to a canon romance for the main character.

Also it seems we yet again find ourselves at an impasse.

grecefar · 2018-04-26, 21:31

Come on valentines day is one of the best events in the game, unless he will go for the dead flag.

Twi · 2018-04-26, 23:28

Honestly, that'd be for the best... no canon love interest since he tried to play the field... except I can't see the... um... older (and best) love interest being available for the event.

MeoTwister5 · 2018-04-26, 23:40

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Originally Posted by Twi

Honestly, that'd be for the best... no canon love interest since he tried to play the field... except I can't see the... um... older (and best) love interest being available for the event.

Her English voice is like sex for the ears.

The Green One · 2018-04-27, 04:51

Just.....keep the "best girl" stuff civil. That's all I ask.

pervypig · 2018-04-27, 09:33

Eh, so removing the treasure guilt-trip the criminal into confessing... if only things would be this easy irl...

wuhugm · 2018-04-28, 13:28

There you go bros~

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Originally Posted by pervypig

Eh, so removing the treasure guilt-trip the criminal into confessing... if only things would be this easy irl...

Yea, most people would just deeply regret and become a slightly better person but not to the point surrendering to the police

Mad Pierrot · 2018-04-28, 14:09

About time they finished the first story arc. Also, we got the opening for real time.

Kanon · 2018-04-28, 14:28

Finally, the real OP! It's pretty damn sweet.

So they kept negotiations in, I'm happy about that. I was thinking they might have Joker obtain new personas randomly. They wasted no time introducing fusion right after.

I was glad they introduced Tae, but the way they did it felt pretty random. How Ren became her guinea pig made more sense in the game.

That spoiler at the end of the episode, what the hell are they thinking?

GreyZone · 2018-04-28, 15:14

This anime managed to fulfill one of my "things I want to see before I die", namely to see Zero and Kira either facing off against each other or teaming up as main characters. This anime fulfilled the latter.

But honestly, I don't recall any series where both of them were voicing characters, escpacially not main characters.

Dengar · 2018-04-28, 15:24

I recognized Ryuji as Mamoru Miyano instantly. I did not realise that Jun Fukuyama was the MC though.

The episode... Wasn't the worst, I suppose. I really don't feel like it does the game justice. But at the same time I do hope this show is better at creating conversations than the game is.

So they managed to somehow keep in negotiations. I didn't feel like the execution was very good though. And well, while it makes sense to fuse Pixie and Arsene into Agathion (who is of the Chariot arcana, which is Ryuji) thematically, he looks kind of underwhelming compared to the sheer badassery of Arsene.

Is this really going to be the last we see of Arsene for most of the show though?

Also what the hell is up with that stinger? Flashing forward for no real reason?

Kanon · 2018-04-28, 18:37

Arsene's line before getting the guillotine was the same as in the game. So yes, he won't reappear until the time is right.

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Twi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Short answer: it's complicated. They're not in the physical world when they're in the metaverse. It's the same thing in the other Persona series with Tartarus and the Tv World, they're different layers of existence that overlap each other, but you can't stop something from happening that's already happened. Well, except in Persona 3: FES, but that would have screwed the world. Anyway, what they're doing is basically playing dominoes with cause and effect. Removing the treasure, as discussed in the episode, removes the source of what makes them distorted. That leaves the guilt and everything else behind and they no longer can filter it out, which Morgana pointed out would likely make him confess his crimes and return to being a normal human being. Morgana also points out that outright destroying/removing the all desires would cause a mental shutdown, so the treasure is the alternative to a more expedient solution of just killing the king and being done with it. __________________

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Twi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011	Honestly, that'd be for the best... no canon love interest since he tried to play the field... except I can't see the... um... older (and best) love interest being available for the event. __________________

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The Green One Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010	Just.....keep the "best girl" stuff civil. That's all I ask. __________________

2018-04-26, 12:08	Link #126
pervypig Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016	Hay, chill... I might be wrong, but that's just cos I don't dig this kind of physical abuse in my hentai. Anyway, I never played P5, so I won't know, but how does metaverse works in P5? Could the heroes have stopped Kamoshita from beating up and totally not raping anyone inside the metaverse?

2018-04-26, 15:55	Link #128
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	The heroes did not expect the thing with Shiho to happen. They were hesitating because Morgana told them that their actions may lead to Kamoshida's death. It was only after the thing with Shiho happened that they decided it was worth the risk. Regardless, even if they hadn't hesitated for a day, due to how palaces work, they would have needed a few days to get everything in order to be able to take the treasure in the first place, so there really was nothing they could have done to prevent it.

2018-04-26, 21:31	Link #130
grecefar Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Blue Notes Blues	Come on valentines day is one of the best events in the game, unless he will go for the dead flag.

2018-04-27, 09:33	Link #134
pervypig Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016	Eh, so removing the treasure guilt-trip the criminal into confessing... if only things would be this easy irl...

2018-04-28, 14:09	Link #136
Mad Pierrot Corrupted fool Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: I'm everywhere Age: 33	About time they finished the first story arc. Also, we got the opening for real time. __________________

2018-04-28, 14:28	Link #137
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Finally, the real OP! It's pretty damn sweet. So they kept negotiations in, I'm happy about that. I was thinking they might have Joker obtain new personas randomly. They wasted no time introducing fusion right after. I was glad they introduced Tae, but the way they did it felt pretty random. How Ren became her guinea pig made more sense in the game. That spoiler at the end of the episode, what the hell are they thinking? __________________

2018-04-28, 15:14	Link #138
GreyZone "Senior" "Member" Join Date: Jan 2012	This anime managed to fulfill one of my "things I want to see before I die", namely to see Zero and Kira either facing off against each other or teaming up as main characters. This anime fulfilled the latter. But honestly, I don't recall any series where both of them were voicing characters, escpacially not main characters. __________________

2018-04-28, 15:24	Link #139
Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	I recognized Ryuji as Mamoru Miyano instantly. I did not realise that Jun Fukuyama was the MC though. The episode... Wasn't the worst, I suppose. I really don't feel like it does the game justice. But at the same time I do hope this show is better at creating conversations than the game is. So they managed to somehow keep in negotiations. I didn't feel like the execution was very good though. And well, while it makes sense to fuse Pixie and Arsene into Agathion (who is of the Chariot arcana, which is Ryuji) thematically, he looks kind of underwhelming compared to the sheer badassery of Arsene. Is this really going to be the last we see of Arsene for most of the show though? Also what the hell is up with that stinger? Flashing forward for no real reason?

2018-04-28, 18:37	Link #140
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Arsene's line before getting the guillotine was the same as in the game. So yes, he won't reappear until the time is right. __________________