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Perfect 10 | 47 | 38.84% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 38 | 31.40% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 19 | 15.70% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 9 | 7.44% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 1.65% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.83% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 2 | 1.65% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 0.83% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 1.65% | |
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2012-05-05, 14:11 | Link #21 |
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damn, it was all Shirley's fault, drinking that medicine out of nowhere.
question about those executor's swords/nails they always use...are they just bringing them out from hidden sleeves like a ninja, or do are they able to form a limitless number of them as some kind of religious ability.
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2012-05-05, 14:13 | Link #22 |
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These "swords", the Black Keys, aren't limitless at all: the executors of the church bring a certain amount of them (the hilts), and they materialize the blade by using their own prana, just like how Kirei did in a previous episode.
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2012-05-05, 14:23 | Link #23 |
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Damn. Is the next episode about Kiritsugu only again? He is the only character of this show I hate. Well, besides that, the episode was nice to watch, although the character I cared for died.. I liked the visuals and music here more than usual and this KnK feeling too.
I guess the next episode will be Heart of Freaks then? The problem is that I wonder if the whole rest of the series will fit into these last six episodes, considering the fact that the second season had a bunch of scenes that seemed way too rushed for me, atleast after the Caster fight. I really hope the next BD-box will contain a bit more extra minutes than the first one (and please not only about Kiritsugu). Overall still a very good episode. |
2012-05-05, 14:32 | Link #24 | |
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2012-05-05, 14:56 | Link #26 | |
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just a slight difference from the novel. In the LN, Kiri didn't use a knife and shot his father from the back and the gun was given to him by Natalie. His father never saw it coming.
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2012-05-05, 15:14 | Link #27 |
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Hey there, Willy Wonka. I missed you, bro. At least, you did better than what you did in Mujun Rasen.
Kalafina's B side should be the permanent ED. That song is godlike. As for the episode, interesting, but it also made me have some questions. Those questions shall be answered reading the wikia, though.
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2012-05-05, 16:14 | Link #29 |
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My God, Kiritsugu is a failure as main character. No charisma at all. I nearly fell asleep halfway of this episode.
The only remarkable thing I can say about it is of the production values: great animation and music. Overall, this season has been so weak compared to the first one in terms of adaptation where the only episode which I can say was terrible was the Rin's episode. The only episode I can say it was good of this season was the premiere one. So disappointing Ufotable.
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2012-05-05, 16:33 | Link #30 |
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That it was, and I honestly thought that they were about to have Touko Aozaki save Kerry at the end there, since I remembered that some were speculating that she was the one to preform the surgery on his flashback during the Keyneth fight (blue hair and all)
I know right? I swear the casting in this episode was more like a tribute to Gen's earlier work than anything else. Poor Zwei, first it was lulu that brings him down then he loses Ein in this way ... On a more serious note, Miyu Irino as a younger innocent Kiritsugu was wonderful to hear, and how he reacted to having his entire world crumpling down around him made me sympathies with him. Ayahi Takagaki as Shirley was great (Kerytugu~<3), especially when she asked Kerry to stop her. Really powerful scene right there. He was a natural from the get go. So it was for both, huh? I'm not sure I understand what you mean it was a poor adaption. Aren't you finding a fault with the writing than anything else? I mean, if you think that Kiritsugu is a failure as a main character, that has to be the fault of the original writer who chose to make him appear like this. I don't think there is anything ufotable could've realistically been able to do, unless change the script drastically from how it happened originally. Even then, having not read the novel, I thought this was an excellent episode in regards to being a stand alone story of who Kerry was, how did he start to become the sort of person we got to see in the majority of the series, and how did he start to travel down the path of darkness. I thought it was fascinating, and all around excellent as an anime episode. I don't know how well it does as an adaption, maybe they removed a lot of things or rushed a lot of stuff, but as far as I care, it worked in delivering it's message, and making me care.
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2012-05-05, 16:39 | Link #31 | |
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2012-05-05, 16:53 | Link #33 | |
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Even if it was a stupid mistake, I could understand why Shirley did what she had done, going by her scene with Father Simon and her talk with Kerry being the successor of her teacher and the only one who could really use this amazing power to help people. Had it gone the way you said it did in the novel, I wouldn't have gotten any of that. I would've been scratching my head thinking ''How did she drink that in the first place?'' and thought nothing of Shirley or how important she was to Kerytugu. Seriously, this episode was more show than tell, and for that reason I now hold it in even higher regard.
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2012-05-05, 17:53 | Link #34 | |
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Secondly, the flashback was a lot longer than the novel which was a one chapter interlude (basically showing Shirley speaking to Kiritsugu then all going to hell. That was it). They crammed 4 and a half chapters in one episode (last one) while they stretched a single chapter in another? Who taught this people pacing? Next episode doesn't adapt anything in Fate/Zero novel but a side story. It's derailing the entire story with unimportant stuff that wasn't published under F/Z. Go and do a special OVA for Heart of Freaks and let's focus on the Grail War. Kiritsugu flashback could have been done in 1/4 of an episode and move on.
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2012-05-05, 18:01 | Link #36 | |
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2012-05-05, 18:08 | Link #37 | |
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With this episode? He had more focus on the anime so far than he did in the novels.
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2012-05-05, 18:13 | Link #38 | |
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2012-05-05, 18:16 | Link #39 |
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Look, I know you really hate Kiritsugu, but this episode explains a lot about Kiritsugu that the audience didn't know before. If you want to argue further about the necessity of this episode, you should probably go to the Light Novel spoiler thread since the direction of this discussion will probably end up there anyway.
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2012-05-05, 18:20 | Link #40 | |
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Nasu says what F/Z is really about in the talks: “Speaking of, what is the fourth war about?” “Hum – Saber getting bullied by Gilgamesh and Alexander!”
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