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View Poll Results: Madoka Magica - Episode 06 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 96 | 56.47% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 58 | 34.12% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 10 | 5.88% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 6 | 3.53% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-02-11, 05:58 | Link #222 |
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Mahou Liches Madoka Magica
On the brighter side , I wonder why no one has yet parodied this meme , given the revelations of this episode , and the similarities between Puella Magi and Liches.
For those not in the know , this was a meme entitled the Cutest Protoss Zealot Ever, about a character called Tenshi/Kanadae from Angel Beats. FYI , Protoss were a species in Blizzard's starcraft Edit : I'm not sure whether this was the original source of the meme , but here goes http://sonohara.donmai.us/post/show/...chool_uniform- Given that Puella Magi's bears so much similarities to Liches , perhaps we should take a shot of some of the Puella Magi , add Warcraft style Lich or Death Knight Eyes to them , and put it up , entitling it : The Cutest Liches Ever . I would do it, if I had the photoshopping skills for it. Alas , I don't . Oh , and give Sayaka a Runeblade Anime has already parodied Starcraft. It's only fitting that its' cousin Warcraft should also be parodied . Anyone feel like taking up this challenge? |
2011-02-11, 06:00 | Link #223 | |
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How Homura knows about the 100 meter limit is questionable but can be explained with Homura being in the MG business for some time now so she must've experienced many different situations, as indicated by herself in episode 5. How Homura knows how to kill Kyubei is beyond me. I think she just tried, without knowing the specifics. But fact is Kyubei can have injuries, that's imo the (only) clue that led to Homura's attack on Kyubei.
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2011-02-11, 06:13 | Link #224 |
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So by becoming a magic girl it's not about just gaining some new powers and responsibilities - in fact the soul becomes detached from the body. The soul gem is some sort of amplifying device where the soul can be used as a power source but at the same time being corrupted easily.
I don't think KB is evil per se. He's just alien, so is the whole mahou shoujo business. It is like how we like to believe our pets behave as if a human child/baby when it may just be a learnt response to humans, KB simply don't have human emotions/values. Interestingly Sayaka could not turn back once she discovered the mahou shoujo world. She seems unable to pretend the witches never existed (as for normal humans). Is that due to influence by Mami, or her sense of duty in exchange for the miracle? Unexplained is how does one become an eligible mahou shoujo candidate? Does KB play a role there? Surely there must be other candidates who just suddenly started to see witches, and if they do, how can they ignore it? If not, they KB sets in motion a non-reversible train, every time. |
2011-02-11, 06:35 | Link #226 |
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There's no excuse for taking another's life, period.
I'm cold and logical as well. Logic would say, he killed X, albeit in a very "cute" fashion, hence he is evil. Now the problem is, how do we define evil… unfortunately evil has many definitions and some of them are mutually exclusive. If it makes everyone feel better, there is no such thing as not–evil in this world, but since we all tend to do very small evil deeds we like to call ourselves "good"; denial makes living with ourselves and our peers easier. The so called "evil" only exists at the boundary of our ignorance. The irony in this debate you're having is that your view is more compatible with the religious view, more so then the cold and calculated one. Yes, technically Kyubei hasn't sinned since he isn't aware of his sins (from what we know) or the gravity of his sins. Because he doesn't consciously hurt others (as you say, he just doesn't know better) his actions can't be labeled as sins; just as a child throwing some animal out the window of a building, in a playful fashion, ignorant to the consequences would not have technically sinned. Though mind you, it is a sin if he becomes conscious of it (ie. regret), even if it happened in the past, so even if he's not evil now, he'll technically be evil later…
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2011-02-11, 06:53 | Link #227 |
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A better analogy would be if a lion mauls a person, is the lion evil?
KB is a magical creature not seemingly bound by human morals. He's forming contracts, why though is not revealed yet, and it's not necessarily to protect humans - afterall he could've chosen mahou shoujo's more carefully by personality but obviously he doesn't care. |
2011-02-11, 06:56 | Link #228 |
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Blah, I will just stop speculating entirely about this series from now on, since I'm seriously doubting that Urobuchi is much more psychologically distorted than what I eventually thought in 3rd episode, after the last 5 minutes of this episode.
I will just ride his roller-coaster. Which keeps goes down... down... down... down.... down... ... down until absolute despair. I give up. He wins.
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2011-02-11, 07:11 | Link #229 |
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The secret to beating Urobuchi: come up with a theory that's even more dark and gritty then what he will come up with.
I think we got a pretty good hint. Remember what his other purpose was revealed to be this episode? He's like a farmer growing magical girls in the soil (witches). Thing's gotta eat them grief seeds.
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2011-02-11, 07:48 | Link #231 |
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I think we're supposed to accept the fact that "little girls" take over the work of Magical Girls. I mean, it's just the genre. If you question that, might as well question why there aren't Magical Boys, or why not all "little girls" are eligible to pass as MG.
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2011-02-11, 08:20 | Link #233 | |
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point is QB is making contracts with minors, who most probably is not even matured enough to understand the consequences of their choices. and there aren't any explanations yet why he cant make a contract with someone older and yes if you prefer why not a boy/man |
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2011-02-11, 08:35 | Link #235 |
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we get a shocking truth again from this eps, Kyubey is hiding so many info, now i start to not understand him, what does he really want...
only Homura-chan seems to know the whole thing, and her objective should be revealed soon with that night of something coming up since Magical Girls cannot die even with their body destroyed, can anyone tell is Mami-san still alive somehow?
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2011-02-11, 08:35 | Link #236 | |
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Isn't Homura a good example for being mature enough? And Kyouko surely seems to be well adapted in case she is/was immature and unknowing.
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2011-02-11, 09:05 | Link #237 |
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Don't you know, you lose your "dreams" as you grow older. It may not be that he can't, but more that older aged women don't have any sort of wish. Now as for why only girls? probably the spell doesn't work on boys. There's a even simpler explanation: the wishes of little girls are just so damn crazy enough that they stand to gain the most power — and we know he's very indifferent to human nature as we know it (age is likely one of the many things he doesn't give a damn about).
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Again, even within a very cold and calculated view, intent is (or at least can be) important. If a man sincerely thinks that what he is doing is right, and furthermore can't even conceive of why others would think otherwise (Kyubey seems genuinely perplexed by how humans object to certain aspects of the magical girl role in this universe), then is he evil? I'm still waiting for some concrete impression that Kyubey is fully cognizant of the unethical nature of some of his actions. Keep in mind that he didn't even argue "the ends justify the means" when Madoka became morally upset with him in this episode. No, instead he implied that he couldn't even understand why she's upset, or why humans get upset about this. It's a complete dismissal, not one where he says "The important thing is the larger picture, Madoka". Long story short, I get the impression that Kyubey sincerely doesn't think that he's done anything wrong. So while his deeds may be evil from our perspective, from his, there may very well be no evil intent there. So, while he may be evil, this lack of evil intent makes him less evil, in my view, than someone like Beatrice (Umineko), who knows what she is doing is evil, and clearly delights in it for that reason. Quote:
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still by their looks they were young when they got the contract, it's just that as one poster said it just might be they don't age anymore being zombies and all. anyway hope everything clears out and we get a great show with a great ending |
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