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Old 2020-09-11, 22:51   Link #7301
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The discussion was with Me? May be a valid explanation, but it miss a part.

Vali to unlock EJOD used his immense quantity of demoniac power, so much that could use JD for some minutes.

When he unlocked Ophis, it was a combination of Luciferís maous power that comes from Bloodline and Albion.

But if this bloodline is so strong, if his demoniac power is so immense that is described to have tonnes of it, at least should be a Super devil in base form or something else.
For all the story, the major part of the demons uses the quantity of demoniac power to describe the level power of someone and aura, except Sairaorg.

However Kibaís Crystal gived him only the holy element to wield holy swords (as seen with Durandal) and manipulate that element and the other SG.



Issei when used the Nyutron cannon was so powerful because in that moment was helped from a divinity, otherwise I would not even see a valid to use it and Infinity blaster against Balor Rias who is always a cannon-glass.

Except that Isseiís wyverns if I do not remember bad as quantity are inferior, furthermore they can not fire auraís attacks. Technically he should be able to use it even in DxD as showed in CxC.

You can not compare Valiís technique with Issei when the first is superior in abilities using Half Dimension to block the enemies, 12 wyverns to fire in every direction, compression divider and Satan compression divider who are enhanced forms of Half dimension.

Issei never tried to enhance abilities as Transfer or Penetrate, with the first useful only because he uses Ascalon, otherwise in a 1vs1 would be useless.
whit no one in particular, i just was re-reading the sieg vs kiba fight and came across how chaos break works.

its not that the lucifer bloodline is that strong, its that apparently when you combine holy + demonic you get something way better than the sum of their parts. for example if you have 30 holy + 30 demonic power you dont get 60, you get like 600. so vali getting that powerful in DxD L has less to do whit lucifer bloodline having that much potential and more to do whit the ultimate devil + the ultimate category of sacred gear = a massive power up.

kiba holy demonic sword was clearly more than twice as powerful as a holy sword or demonic sword he could make. in his encounter whit xenovia his swords were useless against a single fragment but when he got a holy demonic one he was now matching 4 put together, that is a very big jump in power.

nyutroon beam cannon is that powerful by itself (at least if it uses big breasts), he used that and infinity blaster just to make sure. could've he defeated rias whit only nyutroon beam cannon? probably but he wanted to make sure because he probably was not going to get a second chance.
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Old 2020-09-11, 23:05   Link #7302
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whit no one in particular, i just was re-reading the sieg vs kiba fight and came across how chaos break works.

its not that the lucifer bloodline is that strong, its that apparently when you combine holy + demonic you get something way better than the sum of their parts. for example if you have 30 holy + 30 demonic power you dont get 60, you get like 600. so vali getting that powerful in DxD L has less to do whit lucifer bloodline having that much potential and more to do whit the ultimate devil + the ultimate category of sacred gear = a massive power up.

kiba holy demonic sword was clearly more than twice as powerful as a holy sword or demonic sword he could make. in his encounter whit xenovia his swords were useless against a single fragment but when he got a holy demonic one he was now matching 4 put together, that is a very big jump in power.

nyutroon beam cannon is that powerful by itself (at least if it uses big breasts), he used that and infinity blaster just to make sure. could've he defeated rias whit only nyutroon beam cannon? probably but he wanted to make sure because he probably was not going to get a second chance.
It's highly unlikely Balor Rias would've survived Nyuutron beam canon but even if she did, she would've suffered heavy damage that wouldn't have made her much of a threat to Issei.
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Old 2020-09-11, 23:44   Link #7303
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It's highly unlikely Balor Rias would've survived Nyuutron beam canon but even if she did, she would've suffered heavy damage that wouldn't have made her much of a threat to Issei.
IMO if i was issei i wouldve used infinity blaster too, if i hit whit nyuutron beam i have a 99% chance of winning, if i hit whit both its 100%. being overkill is fine and in character whit issei if it means winning, he is after all a power idiot.
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Old 2020-09-12, 05:55   Link #7304
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whit no one in particular, i just was re-reading the sieg vs kiba fight and came across how chaos break works.

its not that the lucifer bloodline is that strong, its that apparently when you combine holy + demonic you get something way better than the sum of their parts. for example if you have 30 holy + 30 demonic power you dont get 60, you get like 600. so vali getting that powerful in DxD L has less to do whit lucifer bloodline having that much potential and more to do whit the ultimate devil + the ultimate category of sacred gear = a massive power up.

kiba holy demonic sword was clearly more than twice as powerful as a holy sword or demonic sword he could make. in his encounter whit xenovia his swords were useless against a single fragment but when he got a holy demonic one he was now matching 4 put together, that is a very big jump in power.

nyutroon beam cannon is that powerful by itself (at least if it uses big breasts), he used that and infinity blaster just to make sure. could've he defeated rias whit only nyutroon beam cannon? probably but he wanted to make sure because he probably was not going to get a second chance.
But for Vali the Lucifer Bloodline is only the quantity of demoniac power. He unlocked EJOD only using his demoniac power an combustible, same thing for JD. This means that his demoniac power was extremely high. Only for this logically in his base form should be maou-class or a Super Devil.
For the story all the bloodline is described only to give Vali much demoniac power, with DxD L it changes only he infused demoniac power in Albion’s power.

But for which reason? Rias is a cannon-glass and was in front of him. Infinity blaster can blow away god-class beings. If shooting star can do with Gods not fighters, let alone for IB that damaged seriously Rivezim.
To be more safe? For this logic against Erebus would have used even Longinus smasher.
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Old 2020-09-12, 08:47   Link #7305
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But if Kanon was using his power to converting, at least his power was fusing with the Cannon being inside the armour. If Cannon could be so strong, for which reason issei used even the infinity blaster against Rias? When she is a cannon-glass? I remember infinity blaster can blow away God-class beings and damaged seriously Rivezim.

All the rest in part that you written was what Iíve said more or less, Vali can not use wyverns in EJOD, but his form is far above the CxC.

Isseiís does not need to increase his power with Boost trough the wyverns, he used it against Euclide becuase he could not use Boost normally, maybe for the resistance. Before the wyverns, not even when he fired Crimson blaster he used boost to increase the power, something that he did always.
Furthermore after have seen T DxD, issei could use Boost freely.

But how was relevant enhance the friend with transfer? I was speaking in a fight 1vs1 and for issei transfer is completely useless except for Ascalon. He never tried to enhance his own abilities, while Vali yes.

That's just a one time help he did out there to be more specific he just Issei as helped Issei's Grandfather you should read volume 24 and there was an explanation there that Nyutron Beam Cannon's power depends on how large the bust size is. The most reasonable reason I could think of was they have the promise to each other that they'll go all out in their battle so that's why he also used Infinity Blaster on top of the Nyutron Beam Cannon and one more thing Issei always use 2 finishing moves combo in his Dragon Deification form which is Longinus Smasher and Infinity Blaster but this he tandems the Infinity Blaster with Nyutron Beam Cannon so that Rias will be caught off guard as she hasn't know this move at that time. There's also the fact of considering Balor Rias ability which is time stopping and the his darkness related abilities.

EJOD is just stronger in raw power but overall Cardinal Crimson Promotion is better based on the fact that Issei can already perform an attack comparable to Heavenly Dragon class plus there's the Dividing Wyvern that can change abilities and color from Red to White vice versa. While for Vali there's only Compression Divider and the usual abilities of Divine Dividing. Plus there's the fact that Issei's Cardinal Crimson Promotion is already catching to Vali's EJOD in terms of power currently he is Satan class level in Cardinal Crimson Promotion form but for its more powerful now that he unlocks his Great Red flesh since its obvious his base will become more powerful with this recent upgrade.

Transfer was more convenient to use in teamfights in my opinion that's why he is leaning more on boost ability in 1v1
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Old 2020-09-12, 09:00   Link #7306
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But for Vali the Lucifer Bloodline is only the quantity of demoniac power. He unlocked EJOD only using his demoniac power an combustible, same thing for JD. This means that his demoniac power was extremely high. Only for this logically in his base form should be maou-class or a Super Devil.
For the story all the bloodline is described only to give Vali much demoniac power, with DxD L it changes only he infused demoniac power in Albionís power.

But for which reason? Rias is a cannon-glass and was in front of him. Infinity blaster can blow away god-class beings. If shooting star can do with Gods not fighters, let alone for IB that damaged seriously Rivezim.
To be more safe? For this logic against Erebus would have used even Longinus smasher.
Correction Vali attained EJOD by dominating the past possessors of Divine Dividing which is very different to Issei as he attain his by convincing the past possessors of Boosted Gear. The one you're talking about where he replaced the used of life force through his demonic power is Juggernaut Drive .

I think you are underestimating Rias too much . Even Rizevim survived the Infinity Blaster what more of Rias who can on par with 80% Fenrir and Verrine so that is why Issei used 2 finishing moves at the same tine .You also need to put in mind Rias Balor which were the time stopping power and her teleport ability in darkness .

For Erebus it's more a plot I guess.
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Old 2020-09-12, 09:21   Link #7307
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Correction Vali attained EJOD by dominating the past possessors of Divine Dividing which is very different to Issei as he attain his by convincing the past possessors of Boosted Gear. The one you're talking about where he replaced the used of life force through his demonic power is Juggernaut Drive .

I think you are underestimating Rias too much . Even Rizevim survived the Infinity Blaster what more of Rias who can on par with 80% Fenrir and Verrine so that is why Issei used 2 finishing moves at the same tine .You also need to put in mind Rias Balor which were the time stopping power and her teleport ability in darkness .

For Erebus it's more a plot I guess.
But what Vali uses to wear EJOD? Why it’s not more mortal? Because uses his demoniac power.

“Rias was in par with Fenrir 80”? What? Do you mean the same girl received from the plot the perfect abilities against a fighter hand-to-hand?
Rias was having an immense advantage of affinity because she could use the teleport and fire continually, while Fenrir has not aura’s attacks.

Ah, Fenfir who is far above her level but can not blitz her? Who moves only at high-speed? I remember you even EJOD can go to God-speed and his figure svanishes, not being able to hear it.

Fenrir that for the plot could not even blitz Yu-long, a dragon king with a big gap among them?
But when issei faced Belial, Belial could easily blitz him even if the power gap is inferior than Fenrir 80% vs Yu-long/Balor Rias.
Kiba booster who blitzed Issei, with a small difference between them in that moment, but before Issei could not blitz Kiba who is only faster than CxC without booster?

In other word she was only running from him firing. It’s like you have a gun from middle-long range and know how to use it, you are a normal guy, while your opponent is the strongest man and both stay from a certain distance, who wins? And he can fight only with punches and kicks.

How are relevant her abilities with the firing of Infinity Blaster? It was always a cannon-glass and she was in front of Issei, furthermore her darkness could be destroyed completely from Dress Break. If Cannon was par with IF who can blow away god-class beings and damage Rivezim, was not necessary IF.

Verrine? The girls who could defeat easily powerful Asura Gods but without injures, with a deep aura that scared Both Vali/Issei? But she losted against Balor Rias and a pair of ultimate-high class devil? She could not even defeat and blitz them in one second? Fire an aura’s attack to defeat them (not including Rias’s attacks for Pod)? Destroy all London? Loosing for “resistance”
It’s the same volume where Balberith Loosted for the Plot as Verrine.

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Old 2020-09-12, 16:59   Link #7308
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But for Vali the Lucifer Bloodline is only the quantity of demoniac power. He unlocked EJOD only using his demoniac power an combustible, same thing for JD. This means that his demoniac power was extremely high. Only for this logically in his base form should be maou-class or a Super Devil.
For the story all the bloodline is described only to give Vali much demoniac power, with DxD L it changes only he infused demoniac power in Albionís power.

But for which reason? Rias is a cannon-glass and was in front of him. Infinity blaster can blow away god-class beings. If shooting star can do with Gods not fighters, let alone for IB that damaged seriously Rivezim.
To be more safe? For this logic against Erebus would have used even Longinus smasher.
like i said, chaos break is precedent for DxD L massive boost in power. by this point is a fact that holy + demonic equals a massive power jump, look at sieg final fight, the guy got a massive boost in power that did not come from his sacred gear or himself. chaos break exists, holy demonic swords exist and they all reinforce my theory that DxD L is so powerful because lucifer power is the diametrical opposite to the system in heaven.

because again he wants to win, your analogy of longinus smasher is not applicable since longinus smasher is something he can use once a month and infinity blaster is an attack that he can use once in a fight. using IB means he is 100% guaranteed to win so he does not have to worry about the stamina consumption, using longinus smasher on erebus means not being able to use it for a whole month so he only saves it as a last resort.
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Old 2020-09-13, 18:27   Link #7309
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But what Vali uses to wear EJOD? Why itís not more mortal? Because uses his demoniac power.

ďRias was in par with Fenrir 80Ē? What? Do you mean the same girl received from the plot the perfect abilities against a fighter hand-to-hand?
Rias was having an immense advantage of affinity because she could use the teleport and fire continually, while Fenrir has not auraís attacks.

Ah, Fenfir who is far above her level but can not blitz her? Who moves only at high-speed? I remember you even EJOD can go to God-speed and his figure svanishes, not being able to hear it.

Fenrir that for the plot could not even blitz Yu-long, a dragon king with a big gap among them?
But when issei faced Belial, Belial could easily blitz him even if the power gap is inferior than Fenrir 80% vs Yu-long/Balor Rias.
Kiba booster who blitzed Issei, with a small difference between them in that moment, but before Issei could not blitz Kiba who is only faster than CxC without booster?

In other word she was only running from him firing. Itís like you have a gun from middle-long range and know how to use it, you are a normal guy, while your opponent is the strongest man and both stay from a certain distance, who wins? And he can fight only with punches and kicks.

How are relevant her abilities with the firing of Infinity Blaster? It was always a cannon-glass and she was in front of Issei, furthermore her darkness could be destroyed completely from Dress Break. If Cannon was par with IF who can blow away god-class beings and damage Rivezim, was not necessary IF.

Verrine? The girls who could defeat easily powerful Asura Gods but without injures, with a deep aura that scared Both Vali/Issei? But she losted against Balor Rias and a pair of ultimate-high class devil? She could not even defeat and blitz them in one second? Fire an auraís attack to defeat them (not including Riasís attacks for Pod)? Destroy all London? Loosing for ďresistanceĒ
Itís the same volume where Balberith Loosted for the Plot as Verrine.
Basically EJOD is the safe and evolved version of Juggernaut which removes the danger of Juggernaut Drive and enhanced it's power further but it's drawback is it consumes an immense amount of stamina that's why Vali can only use it for a very short amount of time in the early volumes .

Don't blame it on Balor Rias as that's the ability of her form and she is wizard type of fighter so it's obvious her fighting style is using long range attacks and Fenrir is like that is the type of fighter he is and asking Balor Rias to fight Fenrir in close combat is just like asking Rossweisse to fight in hand to hand combat .So you shouldn't assume that all fights is hand to hand combat as there's different types of fighters.

It's common sense Balor Rias has time stopping ability plus she can move in the darkness there's a chance of her dodging and stopping time and there's a chance of her surviving and Rias already made some some countermeasures against Dress Break in that fight.

Correction it's Balberith Aura the one that made Issei,Vali and the others scared as he deep, inexplicable and strong Aura as described by Issei. You're underestimating Balor Rias too much remember she can fight on par with 80% Fenrir who is at the level of Heavenly Dragon class in his full strength so her taking on Verrine is acceptable and do remember the type of power the ones who fought Verrine at that time has and how the fight goes. Xenovia has Holy Swords, Irina has Holy Power on top of his Hauteclere, Akeno has Holy Lightning and they're all very lethal. Even Balor Rias with her (POD + Darkness) attacks is very lethal against anyone. Overall that fight is still within the realm of possibility the Balberith versus Sairaorg fight was the one that is absurd in my opinion.
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Old 2020-09-27, 03:52   Link #7310
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i think we should distinguish ExE (Eros Engine) which is future power source for AxA and "ExE" (name unknown) which is form in which Ise would probable use combined powers of Great Red and Ophis (AxA and DxD are forms in which he combine powers of Sekiryutei and Great Red and Ophis respectively). Only that form would be able to defeat Keito Tenkai who are on pair with Great Red not to mention Strongest Prime of Melvazoa and Melavazoa and Regalzeva themselves, however i dont have clue how Ishi would name it - I doubt it would be Eternal Erection
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ExE should be related to Chichigami who will give Issei the necessary power to fend of the invaders. I think it will be the culmination of Issei,Ddraig,Ophis,Great Red and Chichigami's power(which I guess Issei will get once he accomplish the task assigned to him which was the collection of Heavenly Breast.
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I really hope that Issei actually has a proper fight against Diehauser and Indra as every single fight of Issei's in Shin has been a huge letdown.

I just hope Diehauser is given a mutated king piece so he can properly take on Issei.
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There's no mutated king piece, for starters, the King piece would kill the person if they're already powerful enough. It would backfire on Diehauser instead of power up him.
Besides, he won't use it especially after being the one to expose it.
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I really hope that Issei actually has a proper fight against Diehauser and Indra as every single fight of Issei's in Shin has been a huge letdown.

I just hope Diehauser is given a mutated king piece so he can properly take on Issei.
For the champion who exposed it in front of all the population of underworld, betraying momentary the actual government, to destroy the corruption of his beloved rating games, now he should use it?

It would be incoherent for his character, as a gigant ass-pull when Ajuka stopped the production of them, without count it’s against the rules.
Furthermore it should bring Belial from maou-class to Top 10? Against T DxD who scared Angra, the most evil god of his mythology.

Worhtless would be always useless against Infinity, without count Boost and Pentrate ecc.. ah, how would you do resolve the summoning of Ddraig?
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I really hope that Issei actually has a proper fight against Diehauser and Indra as every single fight of Issei's in Shin has been a huge letdown.

I just hope Diehauser is given a mutated king piece so he can properly take on Issei.
King piece is already outrageous enough due to fact that it can strengthen the power of an individual by 10 to 100 times (but of course it has a downside that if it was used by someone who was already too strong or if it used by someone who has a special ability, an overload may occur as in the worst case, it would endanger their lives).If a mutated king piece was to be created (which is impossible in my opinion) maybe it can enhance the power of an individual by 100 to 1000 times .


Since there's already an outrageous gap in strength overall between the two teams. It will more interesting to see how will Ravel fare out against Diehauser in terms of tactics. Since it's her volume, I'm sure she will highlighted in this match in terms of her growth as a strategist .But well see how Ishibumi will play this upcoming volume out.
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King piece is already outrageous enough due to fact that it can strengthen the power of an individual by 10 to 100 times (but of course it has a downside that if it was used by someone who was already too strong or if it used by someone who has a special ability, an overload may occur as in the worst case, it would endanger their lives).If a mutated king piece was to be created (which is impossible in my opinion) maybe it can enhance the power of an individual by 100 to 1000 times .


Since there's already an outrageous gap in strength overall between the two teams. It will more interesting to see how will Ravel fare out against Diehauser in terms of tactics. Since it's her volume, I'm sure she will highlighted in this match in terms of her growth as a strategist .But well see how Ishibumi will play this upcoming volume out.
creating such a king piece would be such a massive asspull and break the story so hard its not worth it in the least, if ajuka could create such a thing then it opens to the posibility of start supplying it to powerful devils and then we end whit things like baalberith dragon-god class x1000. it would completely break the powerscale and make the entire concept of training irrelevant, after all who needs to train when ajuka can just give you magic steroids to fight a god.

honestly the only non-asspull way i can think for diehauser to fight evenly whit issei is if he has a way to use worthlessness to prevent issei to go DxD, while infinity should circumvent worthless it would need for issei to transform before it working. so if diehauser can use some sort of curse-like worthless to prevent issei from going DxD he should be able to stand his ground whit superior technique
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Hmmm, someone mentioned about Grim Reapers annihilating Fallen Angels. That's actually quite tough even for a race that is filled with low class God strength. There are several reasons for that, and the first one is in term of technology advancement FA is way more superior than most factions (except for Devil thanks to Ajuka) since they could spam lots and lots artificial SG users and unconventional weapons, next is their leader was Azazel and that guy is not a meathead like Kokabiel, so he will prepare countermeasures for that (this is the guy who basically uses Kokabiel to push his peace treaty waaay faster ), and the last one is that i doubt Zeus and Poseidon would allow that to happen, since Hades is basically one of the chief Gods of Greek Faction then if he attacked FA it would make it like that it's a war between two factions (Bible and Greek).
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creating such a king piece would be such a massive asspull and break the story so hard its not worth it in the least, if ajuka could create such a thing then it opens to the posibility of start supplying it to powerful devils and then we end whit things like baalberith dragon-god class x1000. it would completely break the powerscale and make the entire concept of training irrelevant, after all who needs to train when ajuka can just give you magic steroids to fight a god.

honestly the only non-asspull way i can think for diehauser to fight evenly whit issei is if he has a way to use worthlessness to prevent issei to go DxD, while infinity should circumvent worthless it would need for issei to transform before it working. so if diehauser can use some sort of curse-like worthless to prevent issei from going DxD he should be able to stand his ground whit superior technique
Would make even the war with ExE a joke if it was possible, like every thing.

A way exist, issei never enter instantly in DxD form in every fight. Belial may always say when he was on Rivezim’s side, was studying the documents or research of Euclide about the Boosted gear, to know how it works, but he had no enough time to understand it before the fight with Issei. It’s not so absurd considering we have seen worse things.

Now he has understood it. See an issei without BG would be a nice develop of Issei’s skill and else. The team would lose the strongest fighter and ddraig.

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since there's already an outrageous gap in strength overall between the two teams. It will more interesting to see how will Ravel fare out against Diehauser in terms of tactics.
That’s possible only if Issei does not use DxD, otherwise every strategy it’s useless against that gigant power gap
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creating such a king piece would be such a massive asspull and break the story so hard its not worth it in the least, if ajuka could create such a thing then it opens to the posibility of start supplying it to powerful devils and then we end whit things like baalberith dragon-god class x1000. it would completely break the powerscale and make the entire concept of training irrelevant, after all who needs to train when ajuka can just give you magic steroids to fight a god.

honestly the only non-asspull way i can think for diehauser to fight evenly whit issei is if he has a way to use worthlessness to prevent issei to go DxD, while infinity should circumvent worthless it would need for issei to transform before it working. so if diehauser can use some sort of curse-like worthless to prevent issei from going DxD he should be able to stand his ground whit superior technique
Yeah I agree that the only plausible and logical way to make to fight between Issei and Diehauser competitive and interesting was to somehow seal Issei's Dragon Deification forms that way the gap between the two teams will become smaller. And by sealing the Dragon Deification forms, Ddraig will not be manifested.Anyway Ravel needs to be highlighted in this match and overcome Diehauser's strategy.


I'm my opinion Issei still has some advantages even if he only use Cardinal Crimson Promotion form as in this form he still has several finishing moves like Longinus Smasher and Nyutron Beam Cannon and also his power in this form should increase tremendously with the unlocking of his body which was made of Great Red's flesh . But I wonder if Issei can utilize Ddraig's finishing move Blazing Inferno of Scorching Flames in this form.
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Yeah I agree that the only plausible and logical way to make to fight between Issei and Diehauser competitive and interesting was to somehow seal Issei's Dragon Deification forms that way the gap between the two teams will become smaller. And by sealing the Dragon Deification forms, Ddraig will not be manifested.Anyway Ravel needs to be highlighted in this match and overcome Diehauser's strategy.


I'm my opinion Issei still has some advantages even if he only use Cardinal Crimson Promotion form as in this form he still has several finishing moves like Longinus Smasher and Nyutron Beam Cannon and also his power in this form should increase tremendously with the unlocking of his body which was made of Great Red's flesh . But I wonder if Issei can utilize Ddraig's finishing move Blazing Inferno of Scorching Flames in this form.
Which advantages for example? Penetrate is the only useful in a fight hand-to-hand, other abilities as Wyverns, Boost or aura’s attacks (dragon shots) would not work.

If the limitation of Longinus smasher’s use is still one time at month, he would not be able do to use it.

It can use the Blazing Inferno etc... in CxC, as declarated in vol24, but he does not want to kill Belial and His team, transforming a friendly fight in a massacre.

I do not want absolutely Issei’s declaration to Ravel during the fight please. But after the victory, transforming it in the best declaration.
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