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View Poll Results: Tate no Yuusha/Shield Hero - Episode 23 Rating
Perfect 10 2 22.22%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 1 11.11%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 3 33.33%
7 out of 10 : Good 1 11.11%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 11.11%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 11.11%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2019-06-11, 22:06   Link #1
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Old 2019-06-12, 10:33   Link #2
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Well it wasn't too bad. Heard people fearing rush but I feel it went well enough. And yeah, Naofumi's liver has got to be the most powerful force in the world. It takes a full barrel of water to make those berries into anything remotely drinkable, and he's popping them like grapes.
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Old 2019-06-12, 10:57   Link #3
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*snickers* Raphatalia dresses up in a swimsuit for him and he doesn't even react to it at all. There's no escape from the daughterzone. He even says something misleading while referring to something else. Oh well, at least she's happy about that.

Well at least Nafoumi tried to tell the other Heroes about the other refinement methods.

Gah no!

Water Temple!

Bad touch! Bad touch!

*shudders*
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Old 2019-06-12, 11:19   Link #4
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I had been wondering all this time who the girl firing blue flames in the OP was. Now I know. Seems kind of obvious that L'arc and Therese are from another world and that L'arc is a hero, especially given the next ep title. I don't know if he'll turn into an enemy, but if he does, it'll be ironic that an enemy treated Naofumi better than his fellow heroes ever did.

Had Naofumi created weapons like that on the spot before? It's pretty damn convenient.

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*snickers* Raphatalia dresses up in a swimsuit for him and he doesn't even react to it at all. There's no escape from the daughterzone. He even says something misleading while referring to something else. Oh well, at least she's happy about that.
She was happy for about 30 seconds until she realized what he truly meant. Swimsuits aren't working, so she'll have to try something more drastic.
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Old 2019-06-12, 14:38   Link #5
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Convenient seasickness to prevent Naofumi from telling the other heroes the secret of all their advancement techniques working. Somewhat cheap storytelling, but also amusing. Also funny that Raphtalia had no trouble with the boat trip at all.

Naofumi got some extra leveling bonus somewhere, as he starts off at level 43, compared to Raphtalia and Filo at 40. They eventually pass him up, of course, as Raphtalia is getting a 30% boost to XP, and Filo is getting a 40% boost (as seen by the boss Karma Dog XP, plus the notice about XP from the previous fight).

Drunk Raphtalia was kinda cute. And completely kicked Mald's butt in arm wrestling. Also noticed that she had a status marker on Naofumi's screen — something like a mug of ale. So apparently the status system can even tell when you're drunk.

For a stretch, I wondered if they'd ditched Bitch entirely, but she finally showed up on the boat, and carrying Motoyasu away from it.

At the same time, while the heroes are still a bit aggravating in their arguments, they seem less actively hostile, and more like children arguing on the playground.

Anyway, drunk Motoyasu was actually smiling at Naofumi. He even looked kinda cute, before he ate that wine-fruit. Speaking of which, what numbskull leaves those out in a tray on the bar when they're that hyper-concentrated, and shouldn't be eaten by anyone?

Filo's shown singing a few times in this episode (even if we don't hear her). New talent!

On the other hand, twintails on Filo looks really weird. Not bad, exactly, but like she's a different (older) person. Doesn't really suit her.

Meanwhile, Raphtalia gets a ponytail. And Naofumi doesn't notice! Heathen! Oh, and she gets a bikini and sarong which looks good on her, but that's kinda secondary. Well, we can pretend that his, "Perfect!" was appropriately directed, just like Raphtalia does.
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Old 2019-06-12, 15:19   Link #6
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Damn those two are stronger than I expected.

The three heroes were funny in this episode. "That overpowered shield again?" LMFAO
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Old 2019-06-12, 17:27   Link #7
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Convenient seasickness to prevent Naofumi from telling the other heroes the secret of all their advancement techniques working. Somewhat cheap storytelling, but also amusing.
Given their personalities though, this doesn't really come across to me as "keeping them from learning how to grow stronger faster" and more "delaying further outbursts and accusations of falsehood". They're not likely to believe him so it wouldn't do that much good and really the delay doesn't slow their growth as much as it allows them to get along a little longer.

As for the fruits being left out, in the novel the customers liked to take a fruit and stir it around in their drink to make it stronger. Since it's a bar I suppose it's assumed that people will know about them.
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Old 2019-06-12, 17:49   Link #8
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It's probably one of those common sense things in the world.
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Old 2019-06-12, 18:26   Link #9
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Given their personalities though, this doesn't really come across to me as "keeping them from learning how to grow stronger faster" and more "delaying further outbursts and accusations of falsehood". They're not likely to believe him so it wouldn't do that much good and really the delay doesn't slow their growth as much as it allows them to get along a little longer.

As for the fruits being left out, in the novel the customers liked to take a fruit and stir it around in their drink to make it stronger. Since it's a bar I suppose it's assumed that people will know about them.
Ren's been pretty open about being on Naofumi's side when the facts are in front of him and he wants to get stronger. If Naofumi is handing him a way to do that without embarrassing himself, he'd go for it.

It'd honestly be more fitting if the others just didn't believe him. Yeah, it'd be stupid. But it'd be in character for Motoyatsu and Itsuki.
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Old 2019-06-12, 18:52   Link #10
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Forgot to ask, but why did Filo get a power-up when Naofumi deciphered that stone? Why kind of power-up did she even get? It felt like they included that part because it's supposed to be important but didn't have time to explain.
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Old 2019-06-12, 19:02   Link #11
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Basically Nafoumi learned a buff spell, used it on Filo as an experiment and she showed you the result.
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Old 2019-06-12, 19:12   Link #12
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Yeah Zweit Aura, some sort of tier-two buff.

Also, forgot to mention but at last the translators realized that "fasuto" is supposed to be "first", not "fast".
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Old 2019-06-12, 20:07   Link #13
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Forgot to ask, but why did Filo get a power-up when Naofumi deciphered that stone? Why kind of power-up did she even get? It felt like they included that part because it's supposed to be important but didn't have time to explain.
At least in the manga, it's supposed to be an inscription written in magic letters that can only be deciphered by someone with experience using magic as there are two methods: crystal balls which will teach you a single spell instantly or grimoires, which can have multiple spells that you can learn from providing you can read and learn it (and even if two people read the same grimoire they can learn different spells). Since Naofumi learned the latter method and the others the former, he was able to learn a spell but noted that for the others it might be different than an omni-boost if they can learn. If I also remember right, the stone was written by a former hero of the past.
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She was happy for about 30 seconds until she realized what he truly meant. Swimsuits aren't working, so she'll have to try something more drastic.
The daughter zone truly is a terrifying place to be.
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Myne's always hanging in the background but since she's been "defeated" and is not the main baddie anymore she's now a background character despite making the shield's life hell for the majority of this series.

I don't know what to think about that lol.
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Ok, the scene from the Manga where L'Arc gets downed by that fruit was funny but watching Spear moron foam at the mouth and pass out was just perfect
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As a WN reader is not that bad that they "rush" this arc, if anythign , the pacing feels very natural and they even kept the very important scene of naofumi eating a fruit.


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She was happy for about 30 seconds until she realized what he truly meant. Swimsuits aren't working, so she'll have to try something more drastic.

Actually, it was different in the WN, it was the infamous towel scene there.

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Thank you guys. I didn't know or just forgot spells could be learned this easily.

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Actually, it was different in the WN, it was the infamous towel scene there.

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I came across an excerpt of that scene afterward. Poor Raphtalia.
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Ok, the scene from the Manga where L'Arc gets downed by that fruit was funny but watching Spear moron foam at the mouth and pass out was just perfect
It was Spear in the LN too. Naofumi's sitting there wondering if Raphtalia's drunk or not while popping berry after berry and wondering why the bartender is freaking out, until finally he tells him about the hyper-concentrated alcohol content in "rucolu". Then Moto comes up, eats one and passes out.
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L'arc's scythe looks like a Cardinal Hero weapon, especially when it helped Therese speak in a way understandable to Raphtalia and Filo. I wonder if there's something to that, especially with the title for the next episode .

Therese's "Alexandrite" last name seems indicative of some kind of deep relationship to gemstones, judging by her very emotional reaction to Naofumi's work with the stone she gave him and her abilities.

It's so weird seeing Myne just tagging along with everyone as part of Motoyasu's party, but at least she does seem genuinely concerned about Motoyasu, so maybe that was never a lie .

So is it an effect of the island that different sets of party can't gain experience when they're in each other's areas? That's why there's the rules for no kill stealing?

Man, what I would have given to hear what a drunk Raphtalia sounds like, but it was pretty amusing watching her get drunk and then put that knight in his place in an arm-wrestle. I also wish we could've heard Filo singing...

Gotta admire that Shield Hero constitution .

Beach episode! Filo looked really cute in the bikini, but Raphtalia looked positively stunning in her swimsuit, classy but exposing enough skin to come off quite sexy. Very fitting for Raphtalia .

Penguin costumes? was Naofumi a Disgea fan or something ?
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She was happy for about 30 seconds until she realized what he truly meant. Swimsuits aren't working, so she'll have to try something more drastic.
Honestly, she could outright confess to him at this point and I expect his reaction would probably be to pet her on the head and act like she's a little girl saying she loves her parent .
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Actually, it was different in the WN, it was the infamous towel scene there.

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What the...? She goes that far and still the same reaction? Is it just the daughter thing or did Myne's betrayal completely turn him off to the appeals of the opposite sex? Because at least blush man .
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