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Perfect 10 | 45 | 51.72% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 27 | 31.03% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 12 | 13.79% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 2 | 2.30% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 1.15% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-07-07, 09:46 | Link #81 | |
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2011-07-07, 10:01 | Link #82 | |
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Thus, Okabe would have to make a choice. Move to the 'Beta' line and save Mayuri (and kill Kurisu), or stay on the 'Alpha' line and let Mayuri die. Ouch, that's one hell of a choice to make - and if this train of logic is true, I wouldn't envy him one bit. To make a choice between the 'love interest' (Kurisu) and your childhood friend (Mayuri)...I wouldn't be able to do that, that's for sure. |
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2011-07-07, 10:04 | Link #83 | |
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2011-07-07, 10:11 | Link #84 |
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This another episode that makes me sad for Kyouma. Trying his best to rescue Mayuri but ended with the same result. D: The last part about Suzuha was quite of a shocker though. |
2011-07-07, 10:33 | Link #85 | |
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2011-07-07, 10:48 | Link #86 | |
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2011-07-07, 11:00 | Link #88 |
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Was the 1% barrier ever actually broken at all before this point? I know they've come close to it with every D-mail they've sent, but I don't think they've crossed it yet. Unless the shift in lines from Kurisu being dead to Kurisu being alive was the barrier being broken?
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2011-07-07, 11:16 | Link #89 | |
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2011-07-07, 12:06 | Link #91 |
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By that logic, Mayuri can't be saved, and yet John Titor is implying that's possible, by changing world trunks rather than world lines. Perhaps the barrier was broken to save Kurisu, and that's what started the whole mess. Perhaps that's why Suzuha is mad at her.
The question now becomes, how does one manage to change world trunks reliably? Suzuha tells them about how at least part of it is the event around which the change is based, but I have a feeling there's more to it than that.
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2011-07-07, 12:11 | Link #92 | |
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A rope may look like one single line, but it's made up of several smaller lines that are closely packed together. All of the changes using the D-mail (possibly barring the first D-mail in Ep 1) moved the world line from one of those smaller rope lines to another small rope line within the same strand of rope. All of those world lines (within a certain strand of rope) have certain events within that are fated to happen regardless of which world line within that 'strand of rope' is being used (by that logic, even if Ruka was a boy or if Akihabara still contained the otaku culture, Mayuri would still die.) By changing to a different 'rope' by breaking the 1% barrier, the events that are fated to occur within the first rope no longer occur. Don't take my word as gospel truth - but that's what I think. |
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2011-07-07, 12:17 | Link #93 | |
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I don't remember but maybe John referred to the "world lines" as the "threads" within the rope.
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2011-07-07, 12:42 | Link #94 | |
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2011-07-07, 14:43 | Link #95 |
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I asked this in the avatar request thread but it seems there is no one interested in it..
Can someone please make an avatar and if possible a signature for Steins;Gate episode 14 for Makise Kurisu at the timeframe 12:25-12:27... She looked just awesome in that caption |
2011-07-07, 14:58 | Link #96 | |
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On the other hand,is that the scene when Kurisu made a mad scientist pose at the timeframe of 12:25-12:27? |
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2011-07-07, 15:26 | Link #97 | |
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That's why I think it's inappropiate to call Alpha and Beta "world lines".The rope analogy already showed that Alpha and Beta are bunches of multiple world line possibilities which will lead to their respective futures.There is a proper name to Alpha and Beta which I hope it will be revealed in the next episode.If the next episode does not say anything about that name,maybe I will say it in the next episode discussion. |
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2011-07-07, 16:26 | Link #98 | |
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2011-07-07, 16:37 | Link #99 | |
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All this talk about choosing between Mayuri and Kurisu even after the 1% line makes me sad.
I guess Okarin has no choice but to use his spiral energy and break the 10% line instead. Quote:
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2011-07-07, 17:09 | Link #100 |
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My opinion is that it was just a natural sickness, and his life was saved by the fact that the Y2K bug split was going to happen. For example, let's say it was his fate to die in a world where the Y2K bug occurs, but when major timeline splits occur, people's fates change. So the moment the world took the turn into "the Y2K bug will not happen" territory his fate to die would change and he would start getting better the moment the clock hit midnight. But that would mean that he changed to a different 'rope', and yet, his memories are still the same as anyone elses. That means that either he didn't have Reading Steiner at that moment(or maybe the experience that his life was saved through that jump is what awakened his power in the first place) or the events that happened to Okabe in the new 'rope' were all identical to the events that happened in the old one before the year 2000. The latter isn't really that unlikely, since most of his experiences up to that point were probably trivial and stuff he doesn't even remember, he was just as child afterall.(I would also just say it's logical to assume that a split like that would only affect FUTURE events that happen AFTER the split itself but you never know with time travel stories)
Or perhaps that 'leap' to the 'other' rope was just a natural 50-50 selection made by the world, in which case maybe Reading Steiner would not activate. In fact, maybe looking at is as "changing ropes" to begin with is a mistake. If it's the result of the natural progress of time, nothing was 'changed'. The world split was 'born' at that very moment. And since Okabe has no experience in the OTHER split, there would be nothing to contradict his memories. For example, maybe saying it splits from 'A' to 'A or B' is wrong. Maybe it's more like it splits from 'A' into 'B or C'. Mmmm. actually that doesn't seem right. Head is starting to hurt. Also, the fact that your life is hanging in the balance during the exact moment that a major timeline event that can change fate is going to occur is probably an extremely rare case. Who knows how people's fate's would react to that kind of thing. In fact, maybe it's possible that even if the Y2K bug DID happen, maybe Okabe's fate would still change and he would live. I mean, the fact that a split occurred there at all is probably pretty influential. I don't know, I kind of doubt that though Last edited by Hopeful Death; 2011-07-07 at 17:27. |
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