2012-07-03, 01:25 | Link #961 |
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Internet lines up behind The Declaration of Internet Freedom:
"It's no secret that various parts of the internet have been under attack for some time. Traditional media companies respond with terror at the thought of losing even more business to piracy (though it's questionable just how much they're actually hurting). Cable internet providers want the right to control what speeds you're allowed to access what sites at. And the U.S. government, meanwhile, wants to help these companies out by making streaming copyrighted content punishable by up to five years in prison. Some major names on the internet have had enough of playing defense. That's why they're launching a new initiative called the Declaration of Internet Freedom. It's a short five-point document — a Bill of Rights of sorts — that lists out the basics of what humanity should expect and deserve from the internet." See: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/technolo...3Rpb25z;_ylv=3 |
2012-07-03, 01:44 | Link #962 | |
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That's for the worst, if we begin to consider that it's good to decide the gene of our children, how much time before humanity fall into eugenic ... I would like to see this as a good news but ... meeh no. It already happened, and we never learn seems like. |
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2012-07-03, 10:39 | Link #963 | |
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Now for something less... controversial than GM babies:
Mail Online: 'Grow' your own STEAKS! Lab breakthrough could see cuts of meat created using 3D printing technology - and they taste just like the real thing Quote:
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2012-07-03, 12:04 | Link #965 | |||||
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As for the gorilla example; body mass, including muscular mass, is about 80% nutrition 10% physical activity and 10% rest. Yes, gorillas and all other primates are much more physically strong than humans and this is rooted in their DNA, which has been molded for surviving in the wild. It was the same with human beings back when we were caveman, our physique was much more naturally muscular than it is now. There has been numerous laboratory experiments in which pregnant lab rats are subjected to different kind of environments in hopes to determine whether living conditions have any effect on the developing fetus. Guess what? It does. Lab rats who were put in a comfortable environment gave birth to healthier offspring that tent to live longer. The rats placed in an stressful environment gave birth to offspring with increased muscular mass and agility.
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As I said, people want what's best for their kids. And physical attractiveness is a proven major advantage. You're more likely to get help when you need it, more likely to get a job, you'll find it easier to integrate into a new environment. Unless your dream is for your kid to grow up to be a bodybuilder, it's more important than how much he can benchpress. Quote:
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2012-07-03, 17:41 | Link #967 | ||||
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^ Aside from the personal attacks, your post seemed more like an emotional response with no substance. But there are a few things that I should outline:
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I guarantee you that if I could have the power to chose the type of people I wanted shown in magazines, movies, video games and advertisements I would redefine the idea of beauty for generations to come. I could literally make black people and fat people the standard of beauty. This new "mold" would cause little girls to work hard at getting darker skin, dark hair, gain weight and become uncomfortable if they are "too thin". When you want parents going around thinking that they can make their child "pretty" is akin to conditioning people to think that white people are good and black people are bad. Nature doesn't have any standards of beauty it presents you life forms with all shapes and sizes and human beings are just a reflection of that. Conditioning people with standards of beauty creates aberrant behavior, such as anorexia or bulimia. It creates emotional scars on those who don't fit the "mold" and makes people racist and materialistic. Giving people the option to add cosmetic modifications would make the problem worse. Finally, I leave you the following present: Edit: And another one for good measure. Asians wanting to be white:
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2012-07-03, 17:43 | Link #968 | ||
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With genetic engineering, you will be pre-labeled as superior. No matter how hard a "regular" person works, they will always be inferior (or so goes the fear). Then there's another fear: this certainly won't be a cheap technology at first, so who will gain access to it? The very people who already have a starting advantage in society: the wealthy. Otherwise, as a biologist it seems a bit silly to me. There is no one gene for strength or intelligence, nor is there a perfect body. People who are guarded against one disease because of their biochemical makeup may find themselves overly susceptible to another disease. If we're talking about genetic engineering, I think we'd be better off starting by trying to eliminate genes that are clearly linked to certain diseases. Natural selection would have handled that function, anyway, but modern medicine impairs it. This isn't a nod to any "genetic cleansing" movements, but rather as an effort to eliminate certain diseases at the core level. Some of my classmates were against this idea, stating "but then, you or I might not have been born." My counter to such a thought is that yes, that might have happened, but I would not have been alive to know or care; and if I were born, then I would live knowing that I didn't have to worry about the disease. Wouldn't that be wonderful? But the counter to that is to say that disease and such makes us who we are. That's a rather conservative stance. I can't disagree with it, but instead of trying to preserve who we (as a species) are, I tend to think of what we'd like to be. Quote:
Now, you're right that a person's nature is not necessarily determined purely by genes. Suppose we want to make a person smarter: we can alter their genes to make the brain neuronal plasticity greater, to adjust the neurons in the brain to form more connections, and to decrease the rate of neuronal "pruning" (neuroscientists would have grounds to argue with me that those modifications could be detrimental to brain operation, but you get the idea). All of these changes might make it easier for a person to retain information and to think, but it won't put the knowledge in their head. It won't make them know what to do with the knowledge they learn. For that, they need their own motivation to want to learn, and they need good instructors who can give them the information in a motivational manner that makes sense.
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2012-07-03, 20:00 | Link #970 |
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"Graphene. It can be stronger than steel and thinner than paper. It can generate
electricity when struck by light. It can be used in thin, flexible supercapacitors that are up to 20 times more powerful than the ones we use right now and can be made in a DVD burner. It’s already got an impressive track record, but does it have any more tricks up its sleeve? Apparently, yes. According to researchers at MIT, graphene could also increase the efficicency of desalination by two or three orders of magnitude. Seriously, what can’t this stuff do?" See: http://www.geekosystem.com/graphene-desalination/ |
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2012-07-04, 08:21 | Link #974 |
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I wonder what kind of technological revolution the Higgs Boson is going to bring about.
Electrons brought the second industrial revolution, weak and strong forces brought the nuclear era. What would happen if mass could be manipulated?
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2012-07-04, 08:44 | Link #977 |
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It would need an entirely different discovery to find out what actually causes gravity.
Scientists are going to have to find the Higgs Field itself first, what they've only found now is the particle. Then they'll have to find out how the particle and field induces mass and how they are related to gravity. If gravity can really be manipulated, its probably going to bring about a new age of space travel.
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2012-07-04, 09:12 | Link #979 |
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I hope they go all hardcore on the Standard Model now in my upcoming quantum mech course. I don't wanna miss out on the juicy details. But I fear this 'fresh' discovery won't be updated in a matter of months in the syllabus . I think it's still treated as a theory of the many existing theories worthy of discussion and speculation.
Higgs was the final missing particle in the standard model but was it the only missing component? In other words, is its proof of existence enough to qualify the model as a theorem and not a theory? The only revolution that proving standard model is going to happen is for theorists as they can cut down on the 'assuming this is true' and have a more concrete footing to dive further into theoretical physics. Modern physicists have been working under the assumption that the model applies for quite some time already. So I am afraid there won't be any practical changes. |
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