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Old 2016-05-24, 14:30   Link #17581
KanbeKotori
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Just hovered over Harukaze's and Kamikaze's in KCV and... Seriously that Kai level is a joke, right? - I mean they got less Hp than the Mutsukis...
What do you expect? They were the Mutsuki class predecessors.
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Old 2016-05-24, 14:32   Link #17582
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The Mutsuki are more or less repeats of the Kamikaze with a larger torpedo tube type mounted and few minor changes.
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Old 2016-05-24, 14:38   Link #17583
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Just hovered over Harukaze's and Kamikaze's in KCV and... Seriously that Kai level is a joke, right? - I mean they got less Hp than the Mutsukis...
Exped 2 and 6 all day, every day, then a slice of PVP every day.
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Old 2016-05-24, 14:52   Link #17584
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Exped 2 and 6 all day, every day
I'm more busy recovering fuel at a rate of 10k per day via 5/21/38. Sending Kamikaze (and Oyashio) into every PVP that doesn't need to go super heavy. Should hit 50 around the end of the week, at 48 right now. Afterwards she'll be assigned to expedition duties. Not like she's got any real combat value.
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Old 2016-05-24, 15:27   Link #17585
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for e7,boss support just change the dive bombers to torp bombers?
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Old 2016-05-24, 17:13   Link #17586
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GOT iowa!!! I don't care if it's easy. Back to farming for Akitsumaru and 2nd U-511!
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Old 2016-05-24, 17:24   Link #17587
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What do you expect? They were the Mutsuki class predecessors.
I was more referring to them needing level 50 for Kai, in contrast to their general stats.
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Old 2016-05-24, 22:48   Link #17588
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E-4 done, CV Hime was really a headache for the last kill, she blocked 7 last dance attemps and depleted my baux levels so hard that I won't be able to do the next maps (so no Pola/Iowa for me, sadly).

So this is the end of the event for me. Still I think I got lucky: got Kamikaze, Yuu, Iku, Tanikaze, Abukuma and Noshiro. Despite the lack of preparation I think I made it quite far, even if it was on easy.

Resolutions for the next event: have at least 15 k2 ships for a start
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Old 2016-05-24, 23:16   Link #17589
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I was more referring to them needing level 50 for Kai, in contrast to their general stats.
Well, all "trophy" DDs have that kind of requirement. High Kai levels.

In fact I'd go to say Kai levels has nothing to do with stats and class. It's the devs decision after all.
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Old 2016-05-25, 03:20   Link #17590
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現在「艦これ」春イベント2016:期間限定海域【開設!基地航空隊】を展開中です。現時点の 各作戦海域の 出撃に対する攻略突破率は、第一作戦海域:約90%、第二作戦海域:約90%、そして第六作戦 海域では約8 0%です。現時点の全作戦参加者ベースの前段作戦突破は約70%です。
So let's get this straight, on all servers, Kadokawa claims:

90% of the player base cleared E1 to E4.
90% of those who did that, also cleared E5.
80% of those who cleared E5 then went on to clear E6.
Finally, 70% of those who cleared E6 cleared E7.

So how does THAT pan out overall? Take note, they didn't seem to have differentiated those who cleared on Easy or on Hard.
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Old 2016-05-25, 04:23   Link #17591
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Roughly 45% playerbase manage to clear the event then. I guess that would be another story if they separate the difficulty since many just gave up on hard this time.
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Old 2016-05-25, 04:27   Link #17592
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So let's get this straight, on all servers, Kadokawa claims:

90% of the player base cleared E1 to E4.
90% of those who did that, also cleared E5.
80% of those who cleared E5 then went on to clear E6.
Finally, 70% of those who cleared E6 cleared E7.

So how does THAT pan out overall? Take note, they didn't seem to have differentiated those who cleared on Easy or on Hard.
That tweet said nothing about E7.
90% of those who started E1 cleared it. 90% of those who started E2 cleared it. 80% of those who started E6 cleared it.
70% of those who started E1 cleared E4.

Therefore currently less than 56% of those who started E1 cleared E6 (0.7*0.8).
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Old 2016-05-25, 11:19   Link #17593
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So.. E7 last dance. What should I do?

The common consensus for first fleet Akitsushima, Yamato sisters, Yamashiro sisters, Kaga or Taihou for 1st fleet. So I guess that is it

How's about the 2nd fleet through? Considering that we pretty much run out of fuel and ammo by boss node, it seemed we need Hayasui for 2nd fleet? How do you use her again? Run a node (1-1) to reduce her fuel to force her use the replenish early? Or you don't need to?

Or should I just use the 1CL, 2 DD, Roma, Tone sisters? In this case, why do some suggest to equip cut-in torpedoes for DD and CL (Yukikaze and Abukuma)? I thought boss can't be hit by torpedoes? Just to clear other targets?

How's about the Landbase attacks? I keep the same formula: 3 fighter +1 bomber, 2 fighters +2 land bombers, 1 fighter +3 land bombers. But is it good or need to be revised?
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Old 2016-05-25, 11:52   Link #17594
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So.. E7 last dance. What should I do?

The common consensus for first fleet Akitsushima, Yamato sisters, Yamashiro sisters, Kaga or Taihou for 1st fleet. So I guess that is it

How's about the 2nd fleet through? Considering that we pretty much run out of fuel and ammo by boss node, it seemed we need Hayasui for 2nd fleet? How do you use her again? Run a node (1-1) to reduce her fuel to force her use the replenish early? Or you don't need to?

Or should I just use the 1CL, 2 DD, Roma, Tone sisters? In this case, why do some suggest to equip cut-in torpedoes for DD and CL (Yukikaze and Abukuma)? I thought boss can't be hit by torpedoes? Just to clear other targets?

How's about the Landbase attacks? I keep the same formula: 3 fighter +1 bomber, 2 fighters +2 land bombers, 1 fighter +3 land bombers. But is it good or need to be revised?
If you don't have a lot of fuel and ammo, I suggest not running hotels. Hotels hardly did anything for me. In fact this map, you need as many tries as possible to get RNG to click with the LBAs since LBAs will be the one dishing the most damage. You'd want as many tries as possible while not gimping your fleet too much. Nagato class BBs are good enough for it.
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Old 2016-05-25, 12:03   Link #17595
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If you don't have a lot of fuel and ammo, I suggest not running hotels. Hotels hardly did anything for me. In fact this map, you need as many tries as possible to get RNG to click with the LBAs since LBAs will be the one dishing the most damage. You'd want as many tries as possible while not gimping your fleet too much. Nagato class BBs are good enough for it.
Thank. But since my Yamato sisters already sparkled (I was bored pre-event, so took them out for scrubbing =D ) so I think I will use them until the sparkling wear off at least. .

How's about land base attacks? It seemed the recommend now is: 2 fighters + 2 torpedo bomber, 1 fighter + 1+ torpedo bomber + 2 land bombers , + 1 fighter + 3 land bombers?

I also heard that 2 10-cm+aircontroller gun + a landing tank is useful for escort fleet?
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Old 2016-05-25, 12:04   Link #17596
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So.. E7 last dance. What should I do?

The common consensus for first fleet Akitsushima, Yamato sisters, Yamashiro sisters, Kaga or Taihou for 1st fleet. So I guess that is it

How's about the 2nd fleet through? Considering that we pretty much run out of fuel and ammo by boss node, it seemed we need Hayasui for 2nd fleet? How do you use her again? Run a node (1-1) to reduce her fuel to force her use the replenish early? Or you don't need to?
You don't need to do that. Equip her with Underway Replenishment, then before you pick formation at boss node, you'll get a prompt asking whether you want to use it or not.

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Or should I just use the 1CL, 2 DD, Roma, Tone sisters? In this case, why do some suggest to equip cut-in torpedoes for DD and CL (Yukikaze and Abukuma)? I thought boss can't be hit by torpedoes? Just to clear other targets?
Basically it comes down to this: do you believe DD can reliabily damage Central Princess. If you do, equip your DD with T2 landing craft, WG42, the lot. If you don't, equip your DD with torps to finish the other princesses.

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How's about the Landbase attacks? I keep the same formula: 3 fighter +1 bomber, 2 fighters +2 land bombers, 1 fighter +3 land bombers. But is it good or need to be revised?
Generally for last dance the setup is 1 fighter & 3 bombers for all three wings, with the strongest fighters at the first wing, and the strongest bombers at the third wing.
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Old 2016-05-25, 12:15   Link #17597
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You don't need to do that. Equip her with Underway Replenishment, then before you pick formation at boss node, you'll get a prompt asking whether you want to use it or not.



Basically it comes down to this: do you believe DD can reliabily damage Central Princess. If you do, equip your DD with T2 landing craft, WG42, the lot. If you don't, equip your DD with torps to finish the other princesses.



Generally for last dance the setup is 1 fighter & 3 bombers for all three wings, with the strongest fighters at the first wing, and the strongest bombers at the third wing.
Hey thank, and all torpedo bombers for all fleet + support right?

And do you need a range 7 (Type 21) fighter?
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Old 2016-05-25, 12:25   Link #17598
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Hey thank, and all torpedo bombers for all fleet + support right?

And do you need a range 7 (Type 21) fighter?
Yes, although for aerial support the prevailing practice is to equip a fighter at the smallest slot.

You only need a plane that has the range to allow the entire wing to reach the boss, so short range fighters will do for wings with land based attacker.
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Old 2016-05-25, 12:49   Link #17599
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Yes, although for aerial support the prevailing practice is to equip a fighter at the smallest slot.

You only need a plane that has the range to allow the entire wing to reach the boss, so short range fighters will do for wings with land based attacker.
Last question, what boss support should I use (include equipment)? Just typical 2 BB, 2CVL (with torpedo bombers), 2 DD , with 2 radar each? Flagship sparked only?

Do we need node support?

PS; and anyway to check if you really are in last dance?
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Old 2016-05-25, 12:53   Link #17600
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Last question, what boss support should I use (include equipment)? Just typical 2 BB, 2CVL (with torpedo bombers), 2 DD , with 2 radar each? Flagship sparked only?
You obviously want air support, going against Central Princess.
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