Character Discussion - Kallen

[mega4000]

Originally Posted by Sprite_Coke

El Cabollo and El Edificio roflcopter, hilarious.

xDDDDDD it should be "El caballo y el edificio" "what is roflcopter? that doesn't exist!" see? you make a lot of mistakes too! and I woudn't discrimine you just because that, actually if you ask I can teach you

[mega4000]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Chess pieces in spanish:

Rey = King
Dama, reina = Queen
Torre = Rook
Caballo = Knight
Alfil = Bishop
Peon = Pawn

Correct, mega?

exactly! that's perfect Bishop? oh! thanks! I wanted to learn that!

[Lolipopo]

Originally Posted by mega4000

yes! I did just a translate from what I know
caballo=horse
peon=pawn
torre=tower
alfil= don't know

I'm french, I'm speaking french, but I'm able to tell how we are calling a "cavalier" in english. Knight doesn't necessite to know a specific language, it's a basic when you are learning english.

Originally Posted by Orga777

Except Suzaku could beat Kallen on equal terms in battle.... They are both even right? So how is one better than the other in battle?

How do you know ? Dude, could I have miss a battle between them in the serie ?

[Luminion Lancer]

Originally Posted by mega4000

well then this treath haven't free will and I can't say what I thing right? if it is so I'll go just say it and I'll follow that rule and go

-Well you won't see anyone stopping ya. Listen closely. I think they are playing you a farewell song through the severed heads of many Suzaku supporters...

[Kuroko]

Not to crack your eggs but i think that MAYBE you're seeing way too much in that lil chess thingie...

[bladeofdarkness]

Originally Posted by Orga777

Oh really? How is Kallen "more valuable" on the battlefield than Suzaku?



Oh I don't know... EVERY battle they had in S1 maybe?

there is more then one suzaku (read:KOR) on the britannian side and only one kallen on lulus
at least before ep 21 since he switched sides
and he never beat her in an equal fight
always with an adventege
the only one that could be considered a win is in 11 and thats not so much him winning as the ground ending the fight

[mega4000]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

Enough with your trolling, I'm tired of arguing. Your opinion is not fact, and your "facts" are barely fact for that matter. The queen is a more valuable piece, one which Lelouch hasn't had the chance to get back yet. He only has the knight, Suzaku. Suzaku is the one he has to rely on for now. It doesn't invalidate everything that has happened, no matter how much you may want it to.

I'll laught in your face if kallen comes back to lelouch and still lelouch consider suzaku as more important! xDDD you know suzaku is protecting him now!

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by Orga777

Oh really? How is Kallen "more valuable" on the battlefield than Suzaku?

More valuable to Lelouch. Suzaku is the type to be at the head of the pack. Kallen would be closer to Lelouch, protecting him.

Originally Posted by mega4000

I'll laught in your face if kallen comes back to lelouch and still lelouch consider suzaku as more important! xDDD you know suzaku is protecting him now!

Oh, he kicked a few guards. I guess that invalidates everything that happened. /sarcasm So what if he protected Lelouch once. Any piece can do that. Kallen does it consistently.

[Vito]

Originally Posted by Lolipopo

How do you know ? Dude, could I have miss a battle between them in the serie ?

Orga777 knows that because he's a suzaku fan.

[Darkcraft]

However,in chess only novices think the most powerful piece is the queen and when they play chess they use it too much
Pros ll answer king(defense on 9 slots) or pawns(8 piece and openings for strategies). and And they have more strategies build with knights and bishops than the queen. they usually place queen at the 5th piece for importance to win a game

Just to say you don't have to use Q1 as an argument of what lelouch think of kallen in a battle
lelouch just call her Q1 cause she was the only girl when he encounter her first time through radio on the battlefield. Nothing more nothing less

[mega4000]

Originally Posted by Lolipopo

I'm french, I'm speaking french, but I'm able to tell how we are calling a "cavalier" in english. Knight doesn't necessite to know a specific language, it's a basic when you are learning english.




How do you know ? Dude, could I have miss a battle between them in the serie ?

yeah, learning the word knight is easy "knight of round" , but still how should I know that the horse is the knight?
yeah I know your land, because I was there and in europa people learn more than two lenguages, here in chile is not so that's sad... all of you have a better knowling in terms of lenguages than us actually most here know just spanish.

[incorrupts]

Originally Posted by Orga777

Oh I don't know... EVERY battle they had in S1 maybe?

You obviously MISSED the part that Lancelot's equipment was like 1000 better than Guren's. But yeah, in R2 epi 18 when Kallen got the upgraded Guren all were like "NO WEI! THAT WAS CAUSE OF THE KNIGHTMARE FRAME!!1111"

I am not saying that Kallen is better, i believe they are both excellent pilots.
But i am tired of seeing posts that KOR are awesome pilots, cause guess what? They got awesome KMF as well.

[Orga777]

Originally Posted by Lolipopo

How do you know ? Dude, could I have miss a battle between them in the serie ?

Lets go through each fight the regular Lancelot had with the regular Guren in S1.

Narita- They were even. Kallen lost because she fell off the cliff and had a damaged Radiation Arm because of the fall. Then they fought again at the docks during that JLF thing. Neither got an edge. They were again even. They were also even in R2 during that Nunnally "rescue" once Kallen first got the Float unit. Again neither got an edge on the other in the short skirmish.

So yeah, they are even when on an equal playing field. Suzaku crushed Kallen in S1 when he got his Float Unit and Kallen crushed Suzaku when she got HAXTEIN.

[mega4000]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

More valuable to Lelouch. Suzaku is the type to be at the head of the pack. Kallen would be closer to Lelouch, protecting him.

Oh, he kicked a few guards. I guess that invalidates everything that happened. /sarcasm So what if he protected Lelouch once. Any piece can do that. Kallen does it consistently.

still lelouch consider him more important than any one! and named him as the knight of zero his personal knight, thats not enough for your dumb brain?

[Pan chan]

Originally Posted by Orga777

Oh really? How is Kallen "more valuable" on the battlefield than Suzaku?



Oh I don't know... EVERY battle they had in S1 maybe?

No, I disagree, the only time they were on equal term about KMF was the first time the Guren and the Lancelot fought, Kallen did loose because the floor crumbled (is that the right word ? ) under her feet. After this, Lancelot had always the edge in term of technology. (until season two)

Right now, we can't say for sure who is the better pilot.

[bladeofdarkness]

Originally Posted by Darkcraft

However,in chess only novices think the most powerful piece is the queen and when they play chess they use it too much
Pros ll answer king(defense on 9 slots) or pawns(8 piece and openings for strategies). and And they have more strategies build with knights and bishops than the queen. they usually place queen at the 5th piece for importance to win a game

Just to say you don't have to use Q1 as an argument of what lelouch think of kallen in a battle
lelouch just call her Q1 cause she was the only girl when he encounter her first time through radio on the battlefield. Nothing more nothing less

you dont win battles with tactics
you win it with strategy

[Dream_Traveller]

Originally Posted by mega4000

still lelouch consider him more important than any one! and named him as the knight of zero his personal knight, thats not enough for your dumb brain?

Give us proof, STATED proof, that Lelouch holds Suzaku above all else, THEN we may believe you. Just because he's his knight, that means jack-shit. Cornelia certainly didn't rever Guilford the most, she respected all of her men.

[Vito]

Originally Posted by mega4000

still lelouch consider him more important than any one! and named him as the knight of zero his personal knight, thats not enough for your dumb brain?

Why that happened no one knows. It hasn't been revealed yet what sort of deal they've made.

[mega4000]

Originally Posted by Darkcraft

However,in chess only novices think the most powerful piece is the queen and when they play chess they use it too much
Pros ll answer king(defense on 9 slots) or pawns(8 piece and openings for strategies). and And they have more strategies build with knights and bishops than the queen. they usually place queen at the 5th piece for importance to win a game

Just to say you don't have to use Q1 as an argument of what lelouch think of kallen in a battle
lelouch just call her Q1 cause she was the only girl when he encounter her first time through radio on the battlefield. Nothing more nothing less

so you call novice my R.I.P. grandpa who was a national champion and thought that chess was his life? ........ don't say such thing again.... understood?

[Orga777]

Originally Posted by skyless

[FONT="Tahoma"]You obviously MISSED the part that Lancelot's equipment was like 1000 better than Guren's. But yeah, in R2 epi 18 when Kallen got the upgraded Guren all were like "NO WEI! THAT WAS CAUSE OF THE KNIGHTMARE FRAME!!1111"

Not really. The Guren has a bunch of weapons... Kallen just likes spamming the Arm all the time. The machine is very capable. Don't blame "equipment" on Kallen using little to nothing.