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kari-no-sugata II · 2022-01-17, 11:24

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Originally Posted by Estzero1

I was kinda surprised hearing Vol.16 is the final volume. So if the LN ending is considered the good ending and the web novel will be the bad ending, does it mean that either Shiraori will destroy the system or the gods will be sacrificed? Correct me if I'm wrong but that's the understanding I got from reading the wiki entry.

Since I've not read LN16 I don't want to judge it based on other peoples' impressions of it - this sort of thing can be very subjective.

To bring up an example from a completely different series. I personally really like the ending to the original Mistborn trilogy by Brandon Sanderson. I thought it was epic and truly felt like the end of an era. It was truly an "ending" rather than a mere stopping off point, though at a VERY high level you could still call it a stopping off point. But there were a lot of casualties along the way and some readers didn't like that.

In my mind, for this series, a "good" vs "bad" ending comes more down to how the MC evolves by the end. She has had a tendency (much more so in the WN) to hide away from others and her feelings or difficult problems. She wants to live with pride. But she also wants to run away from D because D's so scary. But is that really living with pride? So to me, if we have a satisfying resolution to that question then it would be a good (satisfying) ending.

Estzero1 · 2022-01-17, 13:15

That's fair. I was just asking because it confused me

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Judging from your last paragraph though, I have this slight suspicion that you probably won't like the LN ending. But maybe I'm wrong on that. Nevertheless share your opinion when you have read it eventually

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tsunade666 · 2022-01-17, 21:50

the light novel already ended? what!? I didn't knew that. I know that its ending but I thought the final volume wasn't released yet.

Estzero1 · 2022-01-17, 23:08

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Originally Posted by tsunade666

the light novel already ended? what!? I didn't knew that. I know that its ending but I thought the final volume wasn't released yet.

Quite relieving, I wasn't the only one with a similiar reaction. Indeed, Vol.16 at the beginning of this month was the last. It's some weird stuff how fast they released it. Vol. 15 was about 2 months ago iirc. I would have expected some kind of annoucement tbh.

tsunade666 · 2022-01-19, 00:15

I just got my vol 13 of the novel, will read it later on but man, it's nearing its end but slowpress will be slowpress and I'll ended up waiting for another year before I read the ending.

Gerard07 · 2022-01-21, 21:03

No spoilers about what happened to Shiro at the end?.

tsunade666 · 2022-01-22, 11:24

no spoilers from what I often visit.

Vol 13 is more on explaining on what happen in between. A little bit of fight against the defense system of the system but its not that much exciting. I feel the WN did more good when they did the pope, maou, spider, oni meeting. the LN is too short or less detailed there. I also notice that it lacks dialogues and more on monologues and narrations in general. a bit disappointed there.

Estzero1 · 2022-01-22, 12:22

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Originally Posted by Gerard07

No spoilers about what happened to Shiro at the end?.

You should visit the wiki page of Vol.16. There you get some answers

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Gerard07 · 2022-01-22, 13:30

Well, I saw some LN spoilers and I still have doubts;

Spoiler:

Please, clarify them for me?.

cabman11 · 2022-01-27, 14:55

So, we have reached the ending. It's been a good run. Amazing stuff

kari-no-sugata II · 2022-01-30, 14:53

I've finished translating all the chapters now. We have our epilogue.

Gerard07 · 2022-01-30, 18:53

Seen the epilogue of the WN, well in the end Shiro's side won, although I would have liked them to explain in better detail what happened to the world and the characters (in the end Oni-Kun was left dead), and in the end Shiro finished like a little spider and she's captive with D, well in time maybe she'll be able to escape.
I liked the novel a lot, and although its pauses were long, it was a good series, to expect more from the franchise and the author.

tsunade666 · 2022-01-31, 06:16

It's fully translated? I will read it later on. Lots of backlogs for me to read.

tsunade666 · 2022-02-06, 13:12

I just finished wn and I'm completely disappointed in the epilogue. lots of scenes skip there just to show D and M with shiro in cage. I'm actually happy the battle because it kept me excited on how they kept being pushed back by the pope group and how stupid plot armor/shun is. this is how shounen villains probably feel. no matter how absurd the situations, the protagonist/mc has the plot armor powa to win the game. its really ridiculous to be honest. it's a good thing shiro cheats. but that epilogue is really lame and annoying.

sierra117 · 2022-02-06, 19:41

Author should have given us more details about what happened to Ariel and co. and Shun get off to lightly
This EPILOGUE seriously feel rushed and lack luster

Huh...? · 2022-02-08, 02:23

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Originally Posted by sierra117

Author should have given us more details about what happened to Ariel and co. and Shun get off to lightly

Those Information saved for LN version, maybe?

sierra117 · 2022-02-08, 02:28

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Originally Posted by Huh...?

Those Information saved for LN version, maybe?

It shouldn't be, considered that those 2 ending are somewhat different

AP24 · 2022-02-12, 08:08

Spoiler for data:

If the anime caused so much revenue then it’s very likely to get another season

Endscape · 2022-02-12, 12:56

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Originally Posted by sierra117

Author should have given us more details about what happened to Ariel and co. and Shun get off to lightly
This EPILOGUE seriously feel rushed and lack luster

Shun ended up crippled so that's not getting off easy at all.

sierra117 · 2022-02-12, 13:07

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Originally Posted by Endscape

Shun ended up crippled so that's not getting off easy at all.

Not enough, he should at least died and offer his soul to the world like Wrath

2022-01-17, 13:15	Link #8842
Estzero1 Member Join Date: Sep 2014	That's fair. I was just asking because it confused me . Judging from your last paragraph though, I have this slight suspicion that you probably won't like the LN ending. But maybe I'm wrong on that. Nevertheless share your opinion when you have read it eventually . __________________ What´s the answer to everything ?

2022-01-17, 21:50	Link #8843
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	the light novel already ended? what!? I didn't knew that. I know that its ending but I thought the final volume wasn't released yet. __________________ To A certain Lonely Hero

2022-01-19, 00:15	Link #8845
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	I just got my vol 13 of the novel, will read it later on but man, it's nearing its end but slowpress will be slowpress and I'll ended up waiting for another year before I read the ending. __________________ To A certain Lonely Hero

2022-01-22, 11:24	Link #8847
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	no spoilers from what I often visit. Vol 13 is more on explaining on what happen in between. A little bit of fight against the defense system of the system but its not that much exciting. I feel the WN did more good when they did the pope, maou, spider, oni meeting. the LN is too short or less detailed there. I also notice that it lacks dialogues and more on monologues and narrations in general. a bit disappointed there. __________________ To A certain Lonely Hero

2022-01-22, 13:30	Link #8849
Gerard07 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2016	Well, I saw some LN spoilers and I still have doubts; Spoiler: -It was said that Shiro had planned to fake her death and escape from her, but D caught her and made her her servant, what does Shiro think about this, I don't know if it's a happy ending for her. -Sophia and Oni-kun were left alive at the end? And Ariel? -It is mentioned that Dustin had also planned to sacrifice Shiro to save the world, but is she still alive? -Shun and her group apparently found out that D was Wakaba all along and Shiro was a spider, but what happens next? Does he finally get a happy ending???. Please, clarify them for me?. Last edited by Gerard07; 2022-01-22 at 13:58.

2022-01-21, 21:03	Link #8846
Gerard07 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2016	No spoilers about what happened to Shiro at the end?.

2022-01-27, 14:55	Link #8850
cabman11 Senior Member Join Date: May 2014	So, we have reached the ending. It's been a good run. Amazing stuff __________________ "The goal of all life is death" - ainz ooal gown

2022-01-30, 14:53	Link #8851
kari-no-sugata II Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2015	I've finished translating all the chapters now. We have our epilogue.

2022-01-30, 18:53	Link #8852
Gerard07 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2016	Seen the epilogue of the WN, well in the end Shiro's side won, although I would have liked them to explain in better detail what happened to the world and the characters (in the end Oni-Kun was left dead), and in the end Shiro finished like a little spider and she's captive with D, well in time maybe she'll be able to escape. I liked the novel a lot, and although its pauses were long, it was a good series, to expect more from the franchise and the author.

2022-01-31, 06:16	Link #8853
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	It's fully translated? I will read it later on. Lots of backlogs for me to read. __________________ To A certain Lonely Hero

2022-02-06, 13:12	Link #8854
tsunade666 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: In my room	I just finished wn and I'm completely disappointed in the epilogue. lots of scenes skip there just to show D and M with shiro in cage. I'm actually happy the battle because it kept me excited on how they kept being pushed back by the pope group and how stupid plot armor/shun is. this is how shounen villains probably feel. no matter how absurd the situations, the protagonist/mc has the plot armor powa to win the game. its really ridiculous to be honest. it's a good thing shiro cheats. but that epilogue is really lame and annoying. __________________ To A certain Lonely Hero

2022-02-06, 19:41	Link #8855
sierra117 Harem Seeker Join Date: Aug 2015	Author should have given us more details about what happened to Ariel and co. and Shun get off to lightly This EPILOGUE seriously feel rushed and lack luster __________________ “If you were a logical person with refinement then it was obvious to prefer matureness over immatureness, abundance over lacking. Lolita complex is a mental illness, everyone. I hope you are able to go to your nearest mental hospital and get a suicide check-up.” -Dantalian, Dungeon Defense-

2022-02-12, 08:08	Link #8858
AP24 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011	Spoiler for data: If the anime caused so much revenue then it’s very likely to get another season