Madan no Ou to Vanadis [Light Novel]

[Insane]

Are there any explanations about origins or backgrounds of each Vanadis? (Just like Lyudmira that came from noble house), and how they achieved their positions as Vanadis?

[Hemisphere]

Originally Posted by Insane

Are there any explanations about origins or backgrounds of each Vanadis? (Just like Lyudmira that came from noble house), and how they achieved their positions as Vanadis?

Viralt picks owner = hello Vanadis. Been mentioned several times before, Vanadis are Vanadis because they were picked by their Viralt.

Originally Posted by Kleeyook

BTW, I wonder why Elizabetha makes Ellen her rival and tries to compete against her at everything...

Spoiler for The bad blood between Elenore and Elizabetha:

A plague broke out in a remote village under Elizabetha's jurisdiction. Elenore wanted to send aid as during her time as a mercenary she spent some time there, and Elizabetha refused as Elenore is now a Vanadis and her time during a mercenary should not affect Elenore's decisions. Unfortunately the problem got worse and the epidemic breakout became worse, and Elenore decided to send aid despite Elizabetha's refusal as well as criticized Liza for her poor handling of the situation.

While that was the beginning of it, the real incident that started their rivalry was when a noble amassed his own brigand of thieves and began ransacking nearby villages. The noble was Elizabetha's father, and the duty of dealing with this troublemaker fell to Elenore as his territory was close to hers. Elizabetha implored Elenore to let her handle the issue with diplomacy, but Elenore refused her plea; citing that the moment Elizabetha became a Vanadis, her relationship with her father was forfeit. In the end, Elenore struck Elizabetha's father down, and from then on the two became bitter rivals.

Funny enough, the first time they really met each other was seven years ago when they were just around nine years old; Elenore defended Elizabetha (who is a noble's illegitimate child) from some bullies when she came into the village where Elizabetha was staying in, but only Liza remembers this incident.

The reason why they place so much emphasis on the role and responsibilities of a Vanadis is because you have to remember that the position of a Vanadis is directly below the King's, followed by everyone else.

[HasNoLove]

the manga posted at mangapark.... XD

[ragez2010]

wow this series really good, i thought it's going to be like MISUMARUKA KOUKOKU MONOGATARI. that LN full of betrayal and back stab and i hope this LN did not follow that route. the MC skil in archery remind me of Princess momonoke.

[Ddraig]

Finally get to see manga being translate. Hopefully this will draw people attention and someone will work on the LN translation in the future.

[Insane]

For some reason, Tigre's appearance in manga is kinda lame.

[willx]

Originally Posted by Insane

For some reason, Tigre's appearance in manga is kinda lame.

They don't make it clear that he was aiming for and hit the heads of the horses/knight and that each of his shots aimed directly at Elen's face.. Makes him seem less awesome.

[Xacual]

Originally Posted by willx

They don't make it clear that he was aiming for and hit the heads of the horses/knight and that each of his shots aimed directly at Elen's face.. Makes him seem less awesome.

Well that's more obvious adaptation constraints. They don't want to waste space on his monologue.

[Insane]

I wish the manga will be serialized in long run, unlike Mayoi Neko that got cancelled after a couple of chapters, even though it has unique premise.

[Hemisphere]

Those with sharp eyes should be able to tell the reused frames, heh.

[Insane]

Probably because it's serialized in not so famous manga magazine that they have to slaughter many materials.

[Hemisphere]

I find it funny how the best and most likable character ever Zyan never made his appearance, considering that he's the one who

Spoiler:

rags on Tigre, and is the one who led the hasty retreat

when Elenore's forces caught them from behind.

[NeutralZero]

they may use that as a flash-black... who knows...

[Hemisphere]

Probably lumped in with Chapter 2's flashback moment, right before Limalicia's very nice wake-up call.

[kuroishinigami]

Just finished reading vol 1. While interesting, the story somehow feel shounen-y compared to what Ehrjegel post, although far less than HSDxD XD. Still plan to continue reading the rest though

[Hemisphere]

Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

Just finished reading vol 1. While interesting, the story somehow feel shounen-y compared to what Ehrjegel post, although far less than HSDxD XD. Still plan to continue reading the rest though

Volume 1 never really gets into the meat of Vanadis' story; it did help lay down some foundations, such as:
-Tigre's first encounter with Elenore and his fighting strategy after said encounter
-The founding of Zhcted and the Viralts
-Tigre asking to learn some bits of management from Elen
-Tigre's ability to think things through, which is also part of what drew Elen to him
-His ingenuity with strategy, as evidenced by the rope

Which only come into play later on. I probably missed some bits, but those are what comes to mind at the moment.

Out of sheer curiosity, what bits gave off a shounen-ish vibe to you?

[kuroishinigami]

Hmm...convenient power up(the bow) to kill "impossible" to kill enemy(flying dragon), putting arrows in each finger gap to fire continuously(impossible to aim well if you hold multiple arrow in your firing hand), firing toward the same point over and over again to pierce through a shield in a duel by predicting where the enemy move their shield. Basically, several scenes in the last battle works in rule of cool too much that it feels a little too shounen-y. Oh, and the falling into Ellen's breast scene and stumbling into her taking a bath are standard harem shounen scenes

Well, like I said, it's not as glaring as HDxD for example, but the feeling of a shounen series is still there for sure. I've learned better than judging a series from just the first volume though.

[Hemisphere]

Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

Hmm...convenient power up(the bow) to kill "impossible" to kill enemy(flying dragon), putting arrows in each finger gap to fire continuously(impossible to aim well if you hold multiple arrow in your firing hand), firing toward the same point over and over again to pierce through a shield in a duel by predicting where the enemy move their shield. Basically, several scenes in the last battle works in rule of cool too much that it feels a little too shounen-y. Oh, and the falling into Ellen's breast scene and stumbling into her taking a bath are standard harem shounen scenes

Well, like I said, it's not as glaring as HDxD for example, but the feeling of a shounen series is still there for sure. I've learned better than judging a series from just the first volume though.

Haha, I won't dispute that. I'm just thankful that they're not so bad as to break willing suspension of disbelief to a certain degree. If it's any consolation, I don't think the shounen feel was there in the later volumes; that or it never really got overly shounen enough to distract me.

The bath scene, I'd like to think of it more as Elenore divulging to Tigre the importance of a Vanadis' role regardless of personal feelings or opinion. The fanservice in that part never really got to me, same as with the breast grab moment (though I won't deny the fanservice; it's just that my attention was more focused on other matters). For the convenient power up,

Spoiler:

that was implied to be from Tigre bleeding onto the bow, which gets Tir na Fa to reach out to him.

The way that coincidence played out was definitely rather enforced; Tigre grabs arrow meant for Tita -> blood on bow.

[kuroishinigami]

Hmm, actually, more than the power up itself, it was the timing that feels a little too convenient for me. It's like :

"Aww, enemy we can't reach with our current power"
"*whisper from weapon* don't worry, there's power in this weapon that's perfect in this weapon to reach the enemy"
"yay, I can reach it now*

I agree though it's not that bad in regards to the overall plot and the occurence is not numerous enough since the battle itself is not the focus in vol 1 overall story.

[Insane]

Originally Posted by kuroishinigami

Hmm, actually, more than the power up itself, it was the timing that feels a little too convenient for me. It's like :

"Aww, enemy we can't reach with our current power"
"*whisper from weapon* don't worry, there's power in this weapon that's perfect in this weapon to reach the enemy"
"yay, I can reach it now*

I agree though it's not that bad in regards to the overall plot and the occurence is not numerous enough since the battle itself is not the focus in vol 1 overall story.

It's Deus ex Machina (MC gains sudden power up because he have to finish off the enemy), and it's very common thing in every shounen (e.g. Bleach, when Ichigo have to finish off Ulquiorra, or Naruto when he have to finish off Pain)