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Old 2011-03-23, 18:02   Link #9161
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I think its more the rare ones than some by divine origins. Scientifically, Accelerators powers are vectors, Kakine is Dark matter, but toumas is compared to the holy right or something.
I wouldn't really call Kakine's power a "scientific" one. Sure, the definitions are there, but "matter that didn't exist until I created it" sounds more magical in origin to me.
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Old 2011-03-23, 19:21   Link #9162
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I wouldn't really call Kakine's power a "scientific" one. Sure, the definitions are there, but "matter that didn't exist until I created it" sounds more magical in origin to me.
Meh, Its a real thing, click here
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Old 2011-03-23, 19:25   Link #9163
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Meh, Its a real thing, click here
I know dark matter is real; it's specifically mentioned in Vol. 15 that Kakine's "Dark Matter" isn't that dark matter.
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Old 2011-03-23, 19:27   Link #9164
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I know dark matter is real; it's specifically mentioned in Vol. 15 that Kakine's "Dark Matter" isn't that dark matter.
*shock*

Guess im wrong here. Well as i see it, his and toumas powers are the more divine or magical ones compared to accelerator.
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Old 2011-03-23, 19:30   Link #9165
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Well as i see it, his and toumas powers are the more divine or magical ones compared to accelerator.
Definitely:

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"The Dark Matter I create is matter that does not exist in this world. It’s not matter that hasn't yet been discovered, nor matter that theoretically exists, but rather matter which undeniably does not exist."

A material made by an ESPer ability that cannot be classified by science.

[...]

"My Dark Matter is matter that does not exist in this world! It completely disobeys the laws of physics of this world. Sunlight that gets diffracted by the Dark Matter will also have its own set of laws! Foreign bodies are like this: By just mixing in a little bit the world will completely change!"

[...]

"This space which has been affected by foreign bodies is no longer the world that you know!"
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Old 2011-03-23, 21:27   Link #9166
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Do you think those higher ups are going to allow to exist that kind of power?
Why not? There's pretty much what they want with AIM Stalker level 5.

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My understanding was the only Esper's whose powers were divine in origin could become a Level 6. In other words: Only Accel, Kakine, and Touma.
I've been wondering this for some time, but where exactly did you hear that from ?
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Old 2011-03-23, 21:29   Link #9167
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I've been wondering this for some time, but where exactly did you hear that from ?
Nowhere; it's just my own speculation from what's been revealed.
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Old 2011-03-23, 21:36   Link #9168
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Nowhere; it's just my own speculation from what's been revealed.
Well that's the thing, there's alot of these so call facts that just pops out of nowhere and we just take them for granted. But now there's more novels translated, I'm starting to wonder how many of these things are actually real.
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Old 2011-03-23, 21:38   Link #9169
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Well that's the thing, there's alot of these so call facts that just pops out of nowhere and we just take them for granted. But now there's more novels translated, I'm starting to wonder how many of these things are actually real.
I know, it really sucks.

On another note: How do you think Accel, Kakine, and Touma got their powers if they're divine in origin like we suspect? Why would a divine being give humans those powers? For Touma, I'm talking about what Imagine Breaker is supposed to be sealing.
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Old 2011-03-23, 21:42   Link #9170
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I know, it really sucks.

On another note: How do you think Accel, Kakine, and Touma got their powers if they're divine in origin like we suspect? Why would a divine being give humans those powers? For Touma, I'm talking about what Imagine Breaker is supposed to be sealing.
Touma- Power is divine
Kakine-most likely divine.
Accelerator- not divine, he's just so powerful that he went all the way up to being an AIM angel.


On another note, does it seem to anyone that the NT is another "part" in the series?

Like after new testament we get some BOL titles like "Age of Horus" etc.?
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Old 2011-03-23, 21:46   Link #9171
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Accelerator- not divine, he's just so powerful that he went all the way up to being an AIM angel.
True, but when Accel became a Level 6 he started to manifest Kakine's Dark Matter ability, which as you mentioned is most likely divine in origin.
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Old 2011-03-23, 21:48   Link #9172
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True, but when Accel became a Level 6 he started to manifest Kakine's Dark Matter ability, which as you mentioned is most likely divine in origin.
He didn't become Level 6 he just 'Awakened'
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He didn't become Level 6 he just 'Awakened'
What's the difference?
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Old 2011-03-23, 21:51   Link #9174
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if i had to quess about how mikoto would awaken, i would think its more that her holy ability is how much life can be created from her.
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Old 2011-03-23, 21:52   Link #9175
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What's the difference?
It isn't Level 6. Awakening is a step towards that though.
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Old 2011-03-23, 21:53   Link #9176
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Awakening is just Level 5.1.
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Old 2011-03-23, 21:54   Link #9177
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True, but when Accel became a Level 6 he started to manifest Kakine's Dark Matter ability, which as you mentioned is most likely divine in origin.
Level 6?HA!

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Old 2011-03-23, 21:55   Link #9178
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I'm very certain alot of people are misinterpreting the term 'Divine' in this case. I would so love to see the exact conversation Aleister and Aiwass had just so to clarify up this mess =_=

In any case, there's no rule that states only Accelerator and Kakine can awaken and grow wings. If there is, someone please point out where they read it.
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Old 2011-03-23, 21:56   Link #9179
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Anyway, the point I was trying to make is that Accel somehow gained Kakine's Dark Matter ability when he grew those wings. I just don't see how that could happen if his powers weren't somehow connected to the divine.
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Old 2011-03-23, 22:02   Link #9180
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I'm very certain alot of people are misinterpreting the term 'Divine' in this case. I would so love to see the exact conversation Aleister and Aiwass had just so to clarify up this mess =_=

In any case, there's no rule that states only Accelerator and Kakine can awaken and grow wings. If there is, someone please point out where they read it.
Well if its not magic or science it has to be of a higher realm.
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