2012-10-14, 21:26 | Link #4621 |
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The topic of Demi Gods is certainly confusing, when getting my AA degree I had to take 2 courses of Humanities. I choose Forums and Foundation, both of which largely goes into Greek Art. In Campione, the definition of Gods don't really have any distinctions from Fully fledged to half or Demi. As long as the beings are born from Myths, they are Gods either way such as recently the Arthurian Mythology in vol 9 and 10. Many Gods in Campione seen thus far stem from Rome, one of the longest running Empire and known as one of the most diversify of sharing cultures such beings like Perseus and Athena will have other routes in them. There are a lot of Myths associated with them in different cultures, but not only Rome but other places as well. Such as Verethragna having routes or origins associated with Indra, Vishnu, Horus, Ares, Vahagn, Hercules, and more. Athena can be trace back to the Egyptian God Neith, Minerva, and to some Myths even Medusa. Perseus also stem from many Gods as well. So Gore17, the rabbit hole goes quite deep. If the author goes into Hindu, then it will seriously have many Myths stemming from others since it is considered the Longest running religion as well third biggest in the world. It also have many sub religions in it such as Buddhism, Agamic, and yeah.........that is a long list there......not typing all of that. So in short, there are many Myths associated with a single God. If your question was can a Campione be so powerful to be believed as a God, than maybe but not clear. If so, we may have gotten our answer already from other characters such as Pandora and other Gods who been around certainly a lot longer yet they haven't spoken a word of it.
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2012-10-14, 21:42 | Link #4622 | |
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2012-10-14, 22:20 | Link #4623 |
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You forgot the innate extreme luck that all campione possess. Basically, there should be no way for a human, no matter how strong they are, to beat gods, but these extremely lucky individual called campiones manage to do so without any authorities whatsoever, just plain extreme luck and mental strength to imagine them winning the fight. If Godou manage to defeat a god back when he doesn't have any authorities, what make him has zero chance now that he has one(in 10 forms) now?
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2012-10-15, 02:55 | Link #4624 | ||
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2012-10-15, 03:55 | Link #4626 | |
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The prometheus tablet was also part of his luck IMO. It was luck that he met V-san while V-san is still sane it was luck that he decide to befriend v-san, and it was also his luck that v-san decide to help him by sealing the stallion inside prometheus instead of killing it normally. Beside, now he can use 10 times more power, so that doesn't disprove my point that he's stronger now compared to when he beat v-san. As for Melqart, AFAIK, it was Godou idea that entice Melqart to join the fight by saying that was the only way for Melqart to not be killed by the almost fully recovered v-san, which is also what I think why Pandora still grant Godou v-san power even though he doesn't defeat v-san on his own. As for last king, we still doesn't know what his actual power is so I won't comment yet on why he's able to beat campiones effortlessly. But so far, the story has explicitly stated several times that these people called campiones aren't normal, even when the situation is against them, sometimes they will still be able to find a way to win. Last edited by kuroishinigami; 2012-10-15 at 04:11. |
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2012-10-15, 04:02 | Link #4627 | |
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2012-10-15, 04:22 | Link #4628 |
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None, because there hasn't been a need to so far because the golden sword is still effective. It's like telling people to endanger himself by using sword in a fight when he has a perfectly usable gun. But, you still can't deny the possibility that he can do it because the golden sword is usually not his finishing move. If he can make use of the situation like when he fight v-san, he should still be able to kill god using the stallion.
Edit : BTW, although he basically use the golden sword, but during the fight against Luo Hao, the sword isn't the decisive factor that decide the battle. He was still able to beat Luo Hao that still have an authority(which means she's still as strong, if not stronger than some Heretic Gods) left using his remaining power. Last edited by kuroishinigami; 2012-10-15 at 04:33. |
2012-10-15, 04:34 | Link #4629 | |
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2012-10-15, 06:34 | Link #4630 | |
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And of the topic of the Sword business: has he fused it with the Ame no Murakumo? If not, I wonder if it would be possible permanently charge it with a less effective version of the Sword.* Actually, does Godou need to speak the Spell-Words in the presence of a God? Couldn't he do all that before he fights the God, when possible? *Note: I'm not entirely sure on how the Ame no Murakumo works, so clarification would be greatly appreciated. |
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2012-10-15, 06:58 | Link #4631 | |
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2012-10-15, 08:31 | Link #4632 | |
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He's mostly using his sword when he feels like he could land a hit with it, using your trump card right at the beginning is a bad idea, especially when everything is still uncertain.
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2012-10-15, 09:24 | Link #4633 |
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I just realise that the golden sword can't be use other then fighting a god or a person who use god power (Campione).
BTW what is the benefits of using [Warrior] other then the ability to use [Sword]? And since [Sword] is a skill of [Warrior] and it not one of the 10 incarnation, do you think the author would allow Godou to create other skills in [Warrior] mode, maybe like [Spear], [Shield] or [Axe], like the type of weapons a warrior would use?
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2012-10-15, 10:09 | Link #4634 | |
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For analogy, let's assume that Godou's golden sword is the sniper rifle which can kill, or at least crippled the enemy from attacking, his other power is a bomb with the same range as the enemy weapon. He shot with the sniper rifle first, and by surprise, the enemy got a magic shield that protect him from the sniper rifle bullet or make the bullet miss and somehow manage to retaliate back and injure Godou. Should Godou retreat for a while and find a way to bypass the magic shield first or go straight to using his bomb and risking double K.O? Of course the safer first one is the more logical choice right? Because if the first choice doesn't work, than you can still do the second choice as a last resort, yet so far the first choice has always work for Godou so far(he manage to win in the end, whether with help from his friend or something else). This is what I meant by there's no need for him to not use the golden sword so far, because the golden sword still works, it just need a few workaround to make it hit the enemy(through kiss-kiss time or other things). If after this volume, we're going to be introduced to an enemy where the golden sword doesn't work(due to the nature of the enemy or something, the golden sword can't seal the enemy power even if it hit the enemy), and at that time Godou can't win and has to give up the fight, than I will concede that without golden sword, Godou has ZERO chance to win. But right now, I still stand by my opinion that Godou has SOME chance(maybe a little, but some) to win with only his innate luck and his other power beside the golden sword |
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2012-10-15, 11:11 | Link #4635 | |
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2nd, the golden sword, you said that take that away from him and he can't defeat gods, wrong, he defeat the Ame no Murakumo( read back if you don't believe me and point out the part when he use the Golden sword in that fight for me)( also the fight with Sun Wukong, The sword is used to recover the people and Hikari, afterward Sunwukong eat Alsherah to recover himself and Godou continue to fight him after he recover without the sword) without the sword, that prove that Godou is capable of defeate god without the sword, true, i agree that without the golden sword, Godou chance decrased a lot but that doesn't mean he is incapable of defeat gods without it. |
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2012-10-15, 17:33 | Link #4636 | |
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2012-10-15, 18:16 | Link #4638 | |
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Besides, Godou is practically an infant for a campione. He had no prior experience and hes only been a campione for what, half a year? He should be at a disadvantage for the most part. Especially with such an unreliable set of powers. |
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2012-10-15, 18:45 | Link #4639 | |
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2012-10-15, 19:06 | Link #4640 | |
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Hmmm.... I guess I could read the raw, but considering zzhk has been doing excellent job so far, I guess I'll just wait for the translation and clear up my other backlog instead because my English and Japanese reading speed just differ too much |
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