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2010-05-03, 11:19 | Link #622 | ||
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What is true is that, no matter the genre, no matter the time, there will always be music that will be garbage and will only be heard because of its popularity rather than its intrinsic quality. It has happened in every century, in every time, in every place. The point with classical music is that what remains today are those pieces that already survived the test of time and where only the truly good remain. Last edited by Proto; 2010-05-03 at 13:11. |
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2010-05-03, 12:50 | Link #623 |
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I love classical (baroque, medieval, modern, etc). I also love hard rock (50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s), I love traditional world folk music, I love ambient, industrial, new age, ...
I love j-rock, some j-pop, j-traditional, taiko drumming, country folk, bluegrass, rock blues... What worries me are people who are immersed in and only like ONE form of music.
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2010-05-03, 14:12 | Link #624 | ||
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Maybe it is just me, but I see this trend amongst people who follow peer pressure, especially musicians in religious groups and classical/traditional music bands. Rarely do I see people reacting "OMG TTS COOL" to unconventional musical styles like metal or trance. Quote:
It's J.S Bach's Inventions & Symphonias, No. 13 in A Minor, remixed by D.J Taka from Bemani to make the melody sound clearer. Or even Prelude in C Minor for Lute sped up to 140bpm You know, I can't wait for bands to come here during the Singapore Arts Festival 2010 and play something like the MGS4's theme song. If art is just reiteration of past expressions, there isn't any value in it.
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2010-05-03, 15:53 | Link #625 | ||
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That and unlike it's seven arts siblings, music, dance and theater are arts that need to be performed and recreated every time. Unlike painting, sculpture and architecture that once done they last for eternity, the other threes are a flash of a moment (at least before the digital era. You *can* technically recreate a classical piece every time you perform it (and to a certain degree they already do that when the director injects his feelings and interpretation). However classical music also serves another purpose when you consider it as a window to the past. Art is one of the best ways humanity has to study the legacy of past generations. Every time a classical piece is performed to a tee, you are hearing the same piece that the composer thought of, and that every audience throughout many centuries has heard and delighted in. In a sense you are seeing history being made all over again. Which doesn't mean that new stuff shouldn't be different. In art, there's as much value in exploring new stuff as there is in recapitulating the successes humanity has already made. At least in music, theater and dance. Quote:
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2010-05-03, 17:50 | Link #626 |
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This is just so bad man....Japan....it's beyond the point of a joke now.
It really must be a little embarassing for the regular and real conservative Japanese public though. I think there's a reason why crackdowns on media are happening now. Finally I love that picture of the hosts and guests just playing it up so much like they are sad at the announcement, but really they're just like, "Yeah whatever, it's J-Pop". I love TV personalities in Japan who are willing to mug it up for the camera. Kind of reminds me of the studio system era of Hollywood movie acting. I think I'll have to come back and point out what each of their facial expressions is really saying about this. From Left to Right: 1. Hahaha, that's so dumb (Really thinking: but yet I'm wearing a giant gold bow on my head and a really short skirt to play up my appeal.) 2. Okay, Okay, sure just clap along (Really thinking: Just go with how everyone else is hamming it up.) 3. Such a disgrace (Really thinking: I need to play up the stuffy older Japanese person thing a bit.) 4. Hang head in shame (Really thinking: I need to play up the somewhat narcissist guy that's made it and play it like Kanye West) 5. Oh deaaaaaaar....(Really thinking: I've got an emo slice so I need to do the bit about acting sassy and metrosexual) 6. Ohhhhhh no!....(Really thinking: Gotta go with what the boss is doing and act real bumbed out. Maybe play up the daffy hostess bit and look like I'm going to console him) 7. Dem's da breaks man (Really thinking: Either play it cool or play it schmucky and shrug it off) Last edited by Kaioshin Sama; 2010-05-03 at 18:09. |
2010-05-03, 19:52 | Link #627 |
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GO! GO! MANIAC and Listen!! got great hits this week. 1st and 2nd best sellers in Japan! Wow! http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/confidence/75932/
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2010-05-03, 23:59 | Link #628 | |
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There are millions of way to play a single piece, and it doesn't exactly have to be the style as guided by the composer. After all, the style the composer wanted to play is due to favouritism not professionalism. Writing out the notes and arranging them together is the professional part, playing it in the style you want is a different issue. And if we try to play it the way the composer wants everytime, isn't that boring? It is just like eating a chocolate cake with a strawberry on top : why not we put cherries and whipped cream on top of it instead? It is still chocolate cake with different toppings.
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2010-05-04, 01:13 | Link #629 |
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Why did you comment on the least interesting part of my post. I mean, I concede in that, that's just personal likes and dislikes, and probably me being just too stiff since Baroque is my favorite genre.
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2010-05-04, 03:36 | Link #630 | |
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I am more of a Romantic period and Modern Music person. Gershwin is one of my favourite "classical" musicians before pop culture kicked in. He's considered one of the last of the classical musicians before pop music, marketing and industrialisation (a.k.a Keion) turned music arts into a market. Apparently styles of music unique enough to be called "art", like Lady Gaga, still exists.
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2010-05-04, 11:52 | Link #631 |
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Final numbers for the week, 83,400 for GGM and 76,558 for Listen!
Also of note, DSL (70) and CG (74) were back in the top 100 for the first time since January. A good start, but these numbers must double to equal last season's numbers. Here's hoping! |
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Well, they're certainly more musically qualified than Gaga is. Remove the silly costumes and pseudo-sex appeal and all you've got is the same bland chorus being repeated in every song. The popular music station in my city just plays her and Cheryl Cole on loop. And Cole is even worse: deadpanning the same line over and over a repetitive bassline. She's only famous because her husband cheated on her! And that's not to mention the countless cookie-cutter rappers talking about how much money they have. Really, with so much uninspired, musically dead dross clogging up the charts, I'm really not going to complain about a lowly anime song hitting the big time.
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2010-05-05, 09:53 | Link #635 | |
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Looks like being Weird Campy is dead in Japan.
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2010-05-05, 09:57 | Link #636 | |
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Guess it's a good thing I never listen to the radio anymore.
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2010-05-05, 11:30 | Link #638 | |
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You've also just described a great deal of pop music - which more and more replaces musical sophistication and artistry with visual distraction.
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2010-05-05, 11:41 | Link #639 |
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It isn't always a bad thing, of course. You can't (or at least, shouldn't) generalise entire genres. I actually have a soft spot for some pretty vapid 90s pop. The Spice Girls, S Club 7, the Vengaboys, older Britney Spears... all a lot of fun at a party or a karaoke bar. Nowadays, though, the catchy choruses and sense of fun that made those work has been replaced with derivative monotony.
You can't complain too much. There's always good music out there, if you look, and it's the simple, brainless stuff that floats to the top in any form of media. Films like Twilight and Transformers will always make more money than something with substance. It's just that when you're forced to listen to the "cool stuff" day-in day-out at work, it quickly becomes apparent just how shallow it all is.
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