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Cagali on the other hand, went against the druggies on a relatively inferior machine, and actually stood her ground, just as she did against Shinn. No, she is not better than any of them, but in terms of durability, I rank her above Luna. She also did not use SEED mode in both of those battles, for some reason. Even though she could, and did. Quote:
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2013-06-18, 14:40 | Link #7724 | |
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The Akatsuki also makes for great support/partner unit, especially if you are in a more melee orientated suit |
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2013-06-18, 15:51 | Link #7725 |
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Lunamaria is the better pilot compared to Cagalli, especially Destiny Cagalli whose skills clearly waned quite a bit during the time skip which makes sense. She isn't a soldier anymore and is the leader of a Country. While Shinn and Lunamaria on the other hand are highly skilled pilots and their skills are still fresh due to many battles and constant training off the field. I'm surprised she managed to find the time to do her job, stay fit, and still remember how to use a mobile suit somewhat.
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2013-06-18, 15:55 | Link #7726 | |
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Yet Yzak managed to kill two of them rather easily if memory serves. As for her Seed mode, who knows ask Fukuda. Yeah because she was using the gunner wizard. Which was clearly stated to be her weakness. Once she got the Impulse she did much better. |
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2013-06-18, 17:16 | Link #7728 |
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She actually did better in the Gunner. In the gunner she fought Stella to stand still and even damaged her. In Impulse, she....blew up some grunts, failed to hit Djbril, was owned by the Dom's, and was demolished by Athrun in short order.
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2013-06-18, 17:28 | Link #7729 | |
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As for non-PS MS's, there are advantages to it as from the 105 daggers that deflects beam in a limited sense, but still can get damage from high power beams from cannon,sabers, and swords. The problem non-PS MS's is checking the energy levels of the battery, they can't spam shots every like nuclear suits. They also don't have the capacity to load up on even more batteries and eject them whenever they run out. It's a give or take. Either way, you gain resistant to beam only get damage from physical ammunition. Or you hope PS can help with its partial usage against physical ammunition. Last edited by Cherudim Arche; 2013-06-18 at 17:40. |
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2013-06-18, 18:58 | Link #7730 |
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@Cherudim Arche Again perhaps I'm being dense. But PS armor is NOT physical armor. It's an energy intensive device that reinforces a suits physical structure in some way. The way in which said energy reinforces the armor is unknown atm. So I'm not sure where your going.
@Aquaman OS/The American Average In my view Luna's performance after episode 30 can be attributed to chickification. Just like Cagalli's performance in Destiny can attributed to it. |
2013-06-18, 19:27 | Link #7732 | |
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It's still a physical armor, the only difference is the catalyst to keep it re-enforced. It is meant to withstand attacks. That is the entire point of armors. The difference is the trade-off of defense and speed that mobile suit can utilize in combat.It still just as physical as other armor in CE. PS is the only armor that requires the layers to link to be effective through electrical and other means from its huge costs. I don't think the engineer and scientist are dumb to the point to not to make it physically resistant on some way. Seeing that they been in enough wars to see you fruitless ginns are in combat with physical ammunition on either side prior to the first war. It doesn't matter how good the the internal working of the suit has, if its armor is going to weaker than a un-modified ginn that isn't role specific. Phase Shift has to be resistant handle alloys from armor Schneider and other weapon. It just has to built in while creating the phase shift itself. It is literally program to respond to that condition. It probably a combo of nano-tech and wiring to re-enforce the armor. In a way, it is treated like your skin, bone, and tissue. Phase Shift is the top layers of skin. While nerves and other muscles are use like the tendon that are use to support that strength the Phase Shift, while being cover by phase shift on key parts. Yes, Phase Shift in a sense is a micromanaging on its own by the program much like master code or key. In that sense, the master code that control the very basic nature of the phase shift when it comes to defending from attacks from explosives, physical attacks, beam blasts. How else would the Strike, Impulse and other units be able withstand physical round so easily unless the pilot deliberately stabs around the cockpit? Strike was able to withstand the bucue missiles and railgun assault on earth. It's treated the same way as memory"metals" or "alloys". Just that there is not bound back to a deformed state, it just revert to it "original state" design by EA and ORB. Last edited by Cherudim Arche; 2013-06-18 at 19:44. |
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2013-06-18, 21:04 | Link #7734 |
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Tell me about it. Luna had some potential but it was wasted when she was made the chick of the Minerva's pilot trio. And I never got why she was given the Gunner wizard instead of the Blaze or Slash wizards. And don't get me started on how non-existent Shiho or even Rikka where.
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2013-06-18, 21:19 | Link #7736 | |
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The other reason would involve promotion, Luna would have to prove even more than Zey when it comes to use of other packs. If Durandal promoted her status from the very beginning with additional training, she probably can have the opportunity to use other packs without worrying about other conditions. Another reason Minerva may not have given to Blaze or Slash packs to Luna is from lack or additional supplies has been used from from their first base. So, they literally can't give it to her for its has to be use to maintain Rey's zaku warrior when it comes to sortie. |
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2013-06-18, 21:34 | Link #7737 | |
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00 wasn't that great. The only female I ended up liking was token white-haired-pretty-girl, and AGE didn't even bother with subtlety, it just dropped it hard. - Tak
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2013-06-18, 22:16 | Link #7738 |
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@Cherudim Arche But she was really no good with the Gunner wizard. Not to mention the darn thing was meant as an anti-ship weapon not an anti-ms weapon. So it was ill suited for the situation that the Minerva found it's self in. The Blaze or Slash wizards would have been far better suited for that.
And I find it hard to believe the Minerva with at one time 3 FAITH members couldn't get they're hands on replacement parts or wizard packs. Much less additional pilots when you think about it. Which is even more unfathomable considering the Minerva was Durandals pet project by all accounts. |
2013-06-19, 00:18 | Link #7739 | |
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now with 00 thought they had some of the better and worst female characters in gundam. always liked Sumeragi, Shirin Bakhtiar, and Kati Mannequin i thought they were pretty cool, now Sumeragi wasn't independent though. Age I didn't get that far so i can't say anything on the women.
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2013-06-19, 00:19 | Link #7740 | |
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Minerva got the replacement parts without any trouble. I think even with the additional zaku warriors, they would still be biding their teeth for Shinn finish up fighting. For Minerva lacks flight support from things like skygraspers that can have a dual role in fighting against enemies. Mobile suits could work, but depending on the MS it becomes more of a problem than actual help to Minerva. |
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