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Homura7 · 2009-12-10, 17:25

Needless original story (the manga) is far, very far from it's end. As for the anime, everything from 22 is Madhouse fillers.

Avvesione · 2009-12-10, 17:47

Yeah, we all kinda new there'd be an anime original ending but it's was better than most of us were expecting. I'm hoping that the anime grabbed the attention of a lot of people (if it weren't for the anime, i'd never have looked into the manga) and help boost its popularity.

I'm wondering what Imai Kami thought of the anime in general. Guess maybe in one of these Ultra Jumps (or his website) he'll talk about it some. And there could always be a movie adaptation later on depending on how much popularity it gains.

Mr.Caliber · 2009-12-10, 19:35

to be honest im dissappointed with madhouse
i really wantde them to stick to the manga

shadowii · 2009-12-10, 20:06

technically its not over yet, we still have 22 minutes of OVA from the dvds

Avvesione · 2009-12-10, 21:20

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Originally Posted by shadowii

technically its not over yet, we still have 22 minutes of OVA from the dvds

Has anyone seen the preview for the next one? "Burumaa" looks a lot funnier than the first one and seems to have better animation. Most of these little specials have pretty bad animation since they're just bonus material (Queen's Blade comes to mind for a huge drop in quality here) but I'm happy with what the next one looks like. Kinda wondering if they're making any upskirt shots of Cruz in it like they did in the manga. Also am hoping Cruz wears pants in the manga soon since he's gone down a slippery slope from his normal clothes, to killer girls, to his sister's nopan attire...

Ca12nag3 · 2009-12-11, 11:45

hmm the anime doesnt apeal to me that much anymore sure its fun to see animated characters from manga. didnt you guys think it looked to much like ...pokemon at the end...
I mean Cruz said what all the *pokemon* needed to do and defeat team Simeon .... for real it wasnt all that great.
Only thing i liked was how Aruka found out the hard way she was following the wrong God. Thats about it.

About the manga didnt the translaters say the translator went for thanksgiving. Id expect a next release somewhere around 10 january. Were realy much dependable on a few people that work on it. And about the popularity of Needless.... 6 years of manga says more then enough.
There are literaly 100s of mangakas out there jumping up and down for spots in magazines and he got one for 6 years already so dont worry bout popularity :P
But i recon its not popular for pre-teens since its adult orientated. So it doesnt have the merch suport other series like FMA, Hitman Reborn, Naruto etc etc.
Fans will have to do with Dvd extras for merch thats about it ^^

Magin · 2009-12-11, 12:26

that, and it's a monthly series... it's a lot harder for a monthly series to bite the bullet than it is for all the series that come out weekly because they don't have to worry about a ratings poll

and my final comment on the anime is, it could've ended better, but it also could've ended a lot worse... at least we get the next chapter in a few days (and if only more were scanlated...)

Used Can · 2009-12-11, 13:25

I don't think the anime ending was bad. Well, Yamada getting a Fragment and the very last scene were bad, but, in general, I'd say it didn't feel out of place. In fact, I think anyone who's not familiar with the manga would probably be okay with it.

shadowii · 2009-12-11, 13:45

^
thats probably a good percent of the anime audiance

Sekirei07 · 2009-12-11, 14:22

They did keep with it for the most part fairly well and the alterations seem like an alright possible alternate storyline.

I wondered how they originally were going to end it when they had first planned to only do 13 episodes...

Magin · 2009-12-11, 14:33

They had never planned to do 13 episodes... I believe someone misread "volumes" as "episodes"... as there were only 12 volumes planned

Sekirei07 · 2009-12-11, 15:35

Where on earth did u read 12 volumes? If you count the current chapters released they are in the middle of volume 10 so where u get that number from?

Mr.Caliber · 2009-12-11, 16:05

BTW what is Cruz's fragment?

Ca12nag3 · 2009-12-11, 16:09

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Originally Posted by Sekirei07

Where on earth did u read 12 volumes? If you count the current chapters released they are in the middle of volume 10 so where u get that number from?

12 volumes of Dvds 2 epps each. making 24 epps total. but they altered that to 24 lose epp releases with 2 min bonus material on each. o well it dont matter what it is. They did it how they did it end of story. Manga is whats important here ^^

shadowii · 2009-12-11, 16:19

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Originally Posted by Mr.Caliber

BTW what is Cruz's fragment?

if you mean in the anime, just wait a day or two for the subs to come out

if you mean in the manga its: whats been guessed at and debated for more than half this forum

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Ca12nag3 · 2009-12-11, 16:32

In the manga he dont have a fragment we know off
Its possible his inteligence as mentioned in the anime is part of his fragment. Also some of the anime ending prolly is discussed with Imai. So its not impossible some of it will be seen in a different form lateron in the manga.
Yet the setting will be different.

Like i said earlier Aruka in the anime asked Arclight if he is God or something now. And he seems to answer hes better or something, clearly he said something blasfemous. So he betrayed her faith, im sure something like that will happen in the manga as well since shes a religious fanatic serving the 2nd/God.
Her fanatical beliefs simply have to fall some day, now they did it in the anime already and added her to the good side after that but i doubt she would join the good side that easily in the manga.

Homura7 · 2009-12-11, 16:38

Is not that hard. His intelligence is the most special trait of his character. This combined with whatever his fragment is, it's overkill for any of the needless that will fight him in a near future.

shadowii · 2009-12-11, 16:39

^
ca12nag3
good points except do not assume anything in the manga will be the same as what happened in the anime, including Aruka's reasons for joining Arclight in the first place.

Homura7 · 2009-12-11, 16:43

^Aruka's reasons could be either similar or different from the looks of it.

All apart from that, you can be sure it will develop in a way that completely differs from the anime adaptation.

Ca12nag3 · 2009-12-11, 17:23

hmm well you do know that 1 chapter where she explains Cruz about the 2nd and shes praying, so as far as her character assets they remained the same for both anime and manga.

For some character assets with Arclight, Cruz & the killer girls they are debatable since some things simply dont show in their character. Like how easily they all drop arclight whilst for Aruka it seems to be a faith decision.

2009-12-11, 12:26	Link #2247
Magin #1 Akashiya Moka Fan Author Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Where magic is real Age: 35	that, and it's a monthly series... it's a lot harder for a monthly series to bite the bullet than it is for all the series that come out weekly because they don't have to worry about a ratings poll and my final comment on the anime is, it could've ended better, but it also could've ended a lot worse... at least we get the next chapter in a few days (and if only more were scanlated...) __________________ Gifted...or Cursed? R+V fanfic- Chapter 4 of A Water Bride and a Vampire is now up at FF.net! All fans of Inner or Outer Moka, come join her fanclub!

2009-12-11, 13:25	Link #2248
Used Can Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	I don't think the anime ending was bad. Well, Yamada getting a Fragment and the very last scene were bad, but, in general, I'd say it didn't feel out of place. In fact, I think anyone who's not familiar with the manga would probably be okay with it. __________________ "The name is Tin; Used is just an alias. I'm everything Shoe Box would like to be." - Used Can of the Aluminium Kingdom

2009-12-11, 14:33	Link #2251
Magin #1 Akashiya Moka Fan Author Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Where magic is real Age: 35	They had never planned to do 13 episodes... I believe someone misread "volumes" as "episodes"... as there were only 12 volumes planned __________________ Gifted...or Cursed? R+V fanfic- Chapter 4 of A Water Bride and a Vampire is now up at FF.net! All fans of Inner or Outer Moka, come join her fanclub!

2009-12-10, 17:25	Link #2241
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	Needless original story (the manga) is far, very far from it's end. As for the anime, everything from 22 is Madhouse fillers.

2009-12-10, 17:47	Link #2242
Avvesione Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	Yeah, we all kinda new there'd be an anime original ending but it's was better than most of us were expecting. I'm hoping that the anime grabbed the attention of a lot of people (if it weren't for the anime, i'd never have looked into the manga) and help boost its popularity. I'm wondering what Imai Kami thought of the anime in general. Guess maybe in one of these Ultra Jumps (or his website) he'll talk about it some. And there could always be a movie adaptation later on depending on how much popularity it gains.

2009-12-10, 19:35	Link #2243
Mr.Caliber Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009	to be honest im dissappointed with madhouse i really wantde them to stick to the manga

2009-12-10, 20:06	Link #2244
shadowii Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009	technically its not over yet, we still have 22 minutes of OVA from the dvds

2009-12-11, 11:45	Link #2246
Ca12nag3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009	hmm the anime doesnt apeal to me that much anymore sure its fun to see animated characters from manga. didnt you guys think it looked to much like ...pokemon at the end... I mean Cruz said what all the pokemon needed to do and defeat team Simeon .... for real it wasnt all that great. Only thing i liked was how Aruka found out the hard way she was following the wrong God. Thats about it. About the manga didnt the translaters say the translator went for thanksgiving. Id expect a next release somewhere around 10 january. Were realy much dependable on a few people that work on it. And about the popularity of Needless.... 6 years of manga says more then enough. There are literaly 100s of mangakas out there jumping up and down for spots in magazines and he got one for 6 years already so dont worry bout popularity :P But i recon its not popular for pre-teens since its adult orientated. So it doesnt have the merch suport other series like FMA, Hitman Reborn, Naruto etc etc. Fans will have to do with Dvd extras for merch thats about it ^^

2009-12-11, 13:45	Link #2249
shadowii Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009	^ thats probably a good percent of the anime audiance

2009-12-11, 14:22	Link #2250
Sekirei07 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston Age: 36	They did keep with it for the most part fairly well and the alterations seem like an alright possible alternate storyline. I wondered how they originally were going to end it when they had first planned to only do 13 episodes...

2009-12-11, 15:35	Link #2252
Sekirei07 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston Age: 36	Where on earth did u read 12 volumes? If you count the current chapters released they are in the middle of volume 10 so where u get that number from?

2009-12-11, 16:05	Link #2253
Mr.Caliber Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009	BTW what is Cruz's fragment?

2009-12-11, 16:32	Link #2256
Ca12nag3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009	In the manga he dont have a fragment we know off Its possible his inteligence as mentioned in the anime is part of his fragment. Also some of the anime ending prolly is discussed with Imai. So its not impossible some of it will be seen in a different form lateron in the manga. Yet the setting will be different. Like i said earlier Aruka in the anime asked Arclight if he is God or something now. And he seems to answer hes better or something, clearly he said something blasfemous. So he betrayed her faith, im sure something like that will happen in the manga as well since shes a religious fanatic serving the 2nd/God. Her fanatical beliefs simply have to fall some day, now they did it in the anime already and added her to the good side after that but i doubt she would join the good side that easily in the manga.

2009-12-11, 16:38	Link #2257
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	Is not that hard. His intelligence is the most special trait of his character. This combined with whatever his fragment is, it's overkill for any of the needless that will fight him in a near future.

2009-12-11, 16:39	Link #2258
shadowii Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009	^ ca12nag3 good points except do not assume anything in the manga will be the same as what happened in the anime, including Aruka's reasons for joining Arclight in the first place.

2009-12-11, 16:43	Link #2259
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	^Aruka's reasons could be either similar or different from the looks of it. All apart from that, you can be sure it will develop in a way that completely differs from the anime adaptation.

2009-12-11, 17:23	Link #2260
Ca12nag3 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009	hmm well you do know that 1 chapter where she explains Cruz about the 2nd and shes praying, so as far as her character assets they remained the same for both anime and manga. For some character assets with Arclight, Cruz & the killer girls they are debatable since some things simply dont show in their character. Like how easily they all drop arclight whilst for Aruka it seems to be a faith decision.