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james0246 · 2012-03-07, 01:20

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It's a new week, so that means new Naruto spoilers...which are now released....

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-Tsunade reveals a new medic Ninjutsu Byakugou - mitotic regeneration (how this is different from what she has shown before is unclear). Charging at Madara she leads the assault as Tsunade strikes Susano'o from the front, and the Raikage sneaks behind to strike him from the back. They manage to completely break Susano'o.

-Madara reveals that he created edo tensei?

-Continuing the assault, Tsunade manages to land a blow that completely destroys Madara's entire right side of his torso. Gaara springs to action and tries to seal the pummeled Madara. But, the destroyed Madara is revealed to be a clone, and the real Madara strikes from behind, use a Mokuton jutsu to pierce through Tsunade entire stomach, impaling her.

-Cut to Itachi, who has found Kabuto's location. But, Sasuke has followed him to the location.

Merilyn Mensola · 2012-03-07, 04:23

Summary for 577

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Merilyn Mensola · 2012-03-07, 06:32

Chapter is out...

Damn Madara! Get off you hand from Tsunade!!

And for Kabuto.. I think that Itachi must kill him.. Because Kabuto even if don't dies.. He has no intention of stopping the Edo.. So.. He has to dies.

HasuMasu · 2012-03-07, 06:51

Holy shit Madara, what a true boss.

I applaud his bad-assery.

Also, now we see his Susanoo has a sword.

~Yami~ · 2012-03-07, 07:07

Madara is indeed an ultimate boss... I'm quite surprised about how much he actually admired his rival, Hashirama... He has used a lot of Mokuton for fighting kages

Tsunade down... ;__;
and now Itachi is being put in worse situation as well.... damn! if only Naruto isn't fighting Tobi right now....

Goshin · 2012-03-07, 07:12

wow kishi you finally gave tsunade a moment of glory and don't even let last a whole chapter. figures it was to good to be true, after all she is a medical ninja plus she is a woman. lol

, I'm betting that it will be sasuke to defeat kabuto and make undo Edo Tensei. prob with some knew ems technique not unlike the moon's eye plan.

Midnight Commander · 2012-03-07, 07:53

The set of characters placed here together (Sasuke, Itachi, Kabuto, and Anko) is quite interesting. Seems like Orochimaru coming back yet again isn't unlikely at all; is it possible Anko's cursed seal may be of some kind of use here? But for such an epic and resourceful return by Orochimaru, I hope it isn't spoiled like it was at the conclusion of Itachi vs. Sasuke.

I'm really enjoying Madara; he is indeed living up to his reputation, looking down upon the current day's greatest warriors and giving them quite a difficult time.

Discerptor · 2012-03-07, 08:00

Part of me wants Tsunade to have seen through this using some kind of knowledge of her grandfather... but I also believe on some level that all three of the Sannin have to die before this manga can conclude thematically.

Nintendo · 2012-03-07, 08:02

itachi is the level headed one here. he would find a way to stop kabuto, his problem is sasuke followed him and sasuke being a insane kid wont listen to reason and he probably try to kill kabuto instead of mind raping him and forcing him to stop it.

poor tsunade, no doubt she will survive, she will find a way to not be hurt by madara. maybe when this is all done we will get to see what she actually looks like.

felix · 2012-03-07, 08:23

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Originally Posted by Nintendo

poor tsunade, no doubt she will survive, she will find a way to not be hurt by madara. maybe when this is all done we will get to see what she actually looks like.

She's a very skinny old women. If even Ero-sannin goes WTF at her face I don't think I want to see what she looks like. She'll probably make bignose-gramps there look like a pop star.

Justice Knight · 2012-03-07, 09:58

wat does her byakohu thing jutsu do????

ronin myael · 2012-03-07, 10:07

i hope edo tensei madara wipes out the kage!

i'm totally cheering for this guy, i can't help it!

ChronoReverse · 2012-03-07, 10:27

We already know Tsunade isn't going to die easy. The whole point of her technique is that she can completely regenerate and never die.

The problem is what Madara might do to get around this.

Discerptor · 2012-03-07, 11:00

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Originally Posted by ronin myael

i hope edo tensei madara wipes out the kage!

i'm totally cheering for this guy, i can't help it!

It would actually be very satisfying for me if they defeat/seal him without the help of Itachi ending the Edo Tensei. His condescending attitude is remarkably misplaced, and he gives himself far too much credit. He's not doing this well on his own merits, and Hashirama wouldn't either. He's matching the power of the five Kages against that of himself, Hashirama, and the Rinnegan combined, plus zombie immortality and unlimited chakra from Edo Tensei. If anything, the five Kages are at a disadvantage going by numbers, and it would be great if they put Madara and his big mouth in their place regardless.

ronin myael · 2012-03-07, 11:18

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Originally Posted by Discerptor

It would actually be very satisfying for me if they defeat/seal him without the help of Itachi ending the Edo Tensei. His condescending attitude is remarkably misplaced, and he gives himself far too much credit. He's not doing this well on his own merits, and Hashirama wouldn't either. He's matching the power of the five Kages against that of himself, Hashirama, and the Rinnegan combined, plus zombie immortality and unlimited chakra from Edo Tensei. If anything, the five Kages are at a disadvantage going by numbers, and it would be great if they put Madara and his big mouth in their place regardless.

i don't know, i think he's right for the most part. his snotty attitude might be annoying to some but i think he has every right to brag. tsunade is no doubt the weakest among the five hokage. anyone who disagrees with that is in denial. and the rest of the kage are by far less interesting than him or hashirama and the kage before them. i was actually glad that finally someone from narutoverse openly said that she's weak compared to her predecessors. it's not the character's fault but kishi's, and now he is trying to correct that mistake. i can't help but expect an asspull somewhere.

Knjaz · 2012-03-07, 11:31

Well, Tsunade is the only out of 5 kages that can, and probably, will survive such injuries and regenerate. Might as well give a "WTF?" moment to Madara.

Discerptor · 2012-03-07, 11:31

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Originally Posted by ronin myael

i don't know, i think he's right for the most part. his snotty attitude might be annoying to some but i think he has every right to brag. tsunade is no doubt the weakest among the five hokage. anyone who disagrees with that is in denial. and the rest of the kage are by far less interesting than him or hashirama and the kage before them. i was actually glad that finally someone from narutoverse openly said that she's weak compared to her predecessors. it's not the character's fault but kishi's, and now he is trying to correct that mistake. i can't help but expect an asspull somewhere.

I was referring more to his arrogance towards the current generation of Kages as a whole. Tsunade was only the fourth choice successor to Hiruzen at best, behind Jiraiya, Orochimaru, and Minato. As powerful as some of their predecessors they may not be, but almost any two of the current Kage would be able to curbstomp Madara if he only had his own abilities.

itachi-san314 · 2012-03-07, 11:47

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Originally Posted by ronin myael

i don't know, i think he's right for the most part. his snotty attitude might be annoying to some but i think he has every right to brag. tsunade is no doubt the weakest among the five hokage. anyone who disagrees with that is in denial. and the rest of the kage are by far less interesting than him or hashirama and the kage before them. i was actually glad that finally someone from narutoverse openly said that she's weak compared to her predecessors. it's not the character's fault but kishi's, and now he is trying to correct that mistake. i can't help but expect an asspull somewhere.

you can say I'm in denial, but it's a fact that madara himself said she was stronger than A, which means she's the strongest kage power-wise. oonoki and gaara have the best techs. A is fastest. Mei is weakest in my book

Also, tsunade's not dead or out of the fight yet. her tech allows her to regenerate which she will probably do until she dies of rapid old age in this battle. her regenerative skills are on par with edo-madara at the moment. a hole through the chest isn't that big a deal with this tech active. plus, madara admitted he didn't know what the tech was so he won't be expecting her return which could tip the scales against him again. probably a bunch of chapters down the road though as the kabuto fight sizes up and we see more tobi.

also very notable is that I think Izuna was just eliminated from the 'who is tobi' debate. madara wouldn't have spoken of him that way if he was tobi.

Discerptor · 2012-03-07, 11:58

While I agree with your post, I have to point out that I'm pretty sure ronin was saying Tsunade was the weakest of the Hokage (Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato, and herself), not of the current Kage (Gaara, Oonoki, A, Mei, and herself). I do agree that on an individual basis, Mei seems like the weak link simply because she has neither close-range fighting abilities nor any real defensive abilities as far as we have seen... she's basically the squishy mage, which often doesn't bode well in fights against powerful opponents, even if she's remarkably useful as a member of a team.

itachi-san314 · 2012-03-07, 12:15

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Originally Posted by Discerptor

While I agree with your post, I have to point out that I'm pretty sure ronin was saying Tsunade was the weakest of the Hokage (Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato, and herself), not of the current Kage (Gaara, Oonoki, A, Mei, and herself). I do agree that on an individual basis, Mei seems like the weak link simply because she has neither close-range fighting abilities nor any real defensive abilities as far as we have seen... she's basically the squishy mage, which often doesn't bode well in fights against powerful opponents, even if she's remarkably useful as a member of a team.

oh yea... my bad. yes, she's easily the weakest hokage. she's probably better than danzou if he counts, but 1-4 were much more powerful and had better techs.

hashirama is being pretty built up in recent events, but I still think minato was the strongest so far

2012-03-07, 04:23	Link #2
Merilyn Mensola I am a Boxer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Where hot girls are fighting!	Summary for 577 Spoiler: Tsunade faces off with Madara, this battle is interspersed with Tsunade two former teammates talking about her.Tsunade's power can't be matched, and she takes out both madara's barrier and piece of him. Gaara seal Madara, and it looks like the battle's over, until its revealed that Madara used Hashirama's near-invincible clone technique to escape, he pierces Tsunade. Meanwhile, Itachi catches up with Kabuto, and Kabuto reveals that even if he's killed, the Edo Tensei will not stop. Thanks to Molokidan...and thanks to jpreview mangastream. __________________

2012-03-07, 06:32	Link #3
Merilyn Mensola I am a Boxer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Where hot girls are fighting!	Chapter is out... Damn Madara! Get off you hand from Tsunade!! And for Kabuto.. I think that Itachi must kill him.. Because Kabuto even if don't dies.. He has no intention of stopping the Edo.. So.. He has to dies. __________________

2012-03-07, 06:51	Link #4
HasuMasu Senior Member Artist Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Middle Way	Holy shit Madara, what a true boss. I applaud his bad-assery. Also, now we see his Susanoo has a sword. __________________

2012-03-07, 07:12	Link #6
Goshin Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: somehwre between this world and the next	wow kishi you finally gave tsunade a moment of glory and don't even let last a whole chapter. figures it was to good to be true, after all she is a medical ninja plus she is a woman. lol , I'm betting that it will be sasuke to defeat kabuto and make undo Edo Tensei. prob with some knew ems technique not unlike the moon's eye plan. __________________ "The Journey of thousand miles begins with the first step"

2012-03-07, 08:02	Link #9
Nintendo start thinkin bout clones Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Los Angeles,California Age: 40	itachi is the level headed one here. he would find a way to stop kabuto, his problem is sasuke followed him and sasuke being a insane kid wont listen to reason and he probably try to kill kabuto instead of mind raping him and forcing him to stop it. poor tsunade, no doubt she will survive, she will find a way to not be hurt by madara. maybe when this is all done we will get to see what she actually looks like. __________________

2012-03-07, 07:07	Link #5
~Yami~ a random Indonesian otaku Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Xanadu Age: 32	Madara is indeed an ultimate boss... I'm quite surprised about how much he actually admired his rival, Hashirama... He has used a lot of Mokuton for fighting kages Tsunade down... ;__; and now Itachi is being put in worse situation as well.... damn! if only Naruto isn't fighting Tobi right now....

2012-03-07, 07:53	Link #7
Midnight Commander Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Command center, the ship's bridge	The set of characters placed here together (Sasuke, Itachi, Kabuto, and Anko) is quite interesting. Seems like Orochimaru coming back yet again isn't unlikely at all; is it possible Anko's cursed seal may be of some kind of use here? But for such an epic and resourceful return by Orochimaru, I hope it isn't spoiled like it was at the conclusion of Itachi vs. Sasuke. I'm really enjoying Madara; he is indeed living up to his reputation, looking down upon the current day's greatest warriors and giving them quite a difficult time.

2012-03-07, 08:00	Link #8
Discerptor ANIUE!111 Join Date: Oct 2006	Part of me wants Tsunade to have seen through this using some kind of knowledge of her grandfather... but I also believe on some level that all three of the Sannin have to die before this manga can conclude thematically.

2012-03-07, 09:58	Link #11
Justice Knight Haro Pwned U!!!! Join Date: Dec 2005	wat does her byakohu thing jutsu do???? __________________

2012-03-07, 10:07	Link #12
ronin myael lost ronin Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: in the recesses of my convoluted mind...	i hope edo tensei madara wipes out the kage! i'm totally cheering for this guy, i can't help it! __________________ "Sometimes you wake up. Sometimes the fall kills you. And sometimes, when you fall, you fly."~ Neil Gaiman (The Sandman)

2012-03-07, 10:27	Link #13
ChronoReverse Senior Member Join Date: May 2004	We already know Tsunade isn't going to die easy. The whole point of her technique is that she can completely regenerate and never die. The problem is what Madara might do to get around this.

2012-03-07, 11:31	Link #16
Knjaz Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Latvia, Riga	Well, Tsunade is the only out of 5 kages that can, and probably, will survive such injuries and regenerate. Might as well give a "WTF?" moment to Madara.

2012-03-07, 11:58	Link #19
Discerptor ANIUE!111 Join Date: Oct 2006	While I agree with your post, I have to point out that I'm pretty sure ronin was saying Tsunade was the weakest of the Hokage (Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato, and herself), not of the current Kage (Gaara, Oonoki, A, Mei, and herself). I do agree that on an individual basis, Mei seems like the weak link simply because she has neither close-range fighting abilities nor any real defensive abilities as far as we have seen... she's basically the squishy mage, which often doesn't bode well in fights against powerful opponents, even if she's remarkably useful as a member of a team.