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Old 2016-06-17, 08:32   Link #61
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aaah this, wow, that's so long ago, it has been forgotten by every character since like forever.
He wasn't a dick, and while that's very wynn-like to feel bad for doing it and wanting to apologize, it was a very understandable hesitation as well. She's the most important person in the world, he's but a commoner, and the meeting was so unexpected that he didn't have even one minute to think things over.


Yes, was talking about Raul. With the hero, the high elf sage, the old dwarf blade master and the weapon master (or whatever title he had, I forgot) werebeast in the south, he's basically among the top 5 of what we know as long as we're removing what I listed above. The hero and the dwarf are above, it seems. I don't know for the others.
it makes sense from a normal persons standpoint, but it went against how wynn acted in all of the previous chapters, it's like naruto suddenly giving up on sasuke, it didn't fit, which is why he regrets it I think....probably.
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Old 2016-06-17, 08:35   Link #62
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His official job after graduation is a super prestigeous position (check how he is escorting the princess on the covers)........
More nobles scorn to be earned and jealousy from Leti
Though isn't that to restrict Leti from meddling with the Royals? ....
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Old 2016-06-17, 08:57   Link #63
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Just translated a bit of the side story which depicts Wynn and Leti's first days as adventurers. Not sure how much I will translate, but I'll try to get some done from time to time.

Chapter 1[50%]
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Old 2016-06-17, 09:17   Link #64
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More nobles scorn to be earned and jealousy from Leti
Though isn't that to restrict Leti from meddling with the Royals? ....
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Old 2016-06-17, 09:26   Link #65
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Old 2016-06-17, 09:34   Link #66
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^ Wynn+Leti i guess
'cos all those bastard want to tie her to the country =)))
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Old 2016-06-17, 10:47   Link #67
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Not sure how Leti and Wynn will be together with all this politics and people wanting to tie Leti down...NTR tone cough

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Just translated a bit of the side story which depicts Wynn and Leti's first days as adventurers.

Chapter 1[50%]
http://pastebin.com/Cr1amPUL
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Old 2016-06-20, 05:42   Link #68
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Just read this over the last few days and really enjoyed it, one of the better novels I've read in a while.

As for NTR it could happen but I don't see it as Leti been stolen the most likely scenario is wynn been stolen from Leti.

Leti in their world is the equivalent of a nuclear weapon with intelligence she is simply to powerful for them to directly force her to do something she doesn't want to especially on issue's like marriage, to do so will only anger her and lead to the opposite of what they want IE tying her to the country. Which is why the prince is taking a indirect approach of using the only thing she really holds dear wynn, Leti is so important that they're literally willing to throw their first princess at him to tie him down which in turn helps to tie down Leti.
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Old 2016-06-21, 19:52   Link #69
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My understanding of Wynn's future position is that
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Regarding NTR, I don't see it happening.
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Regarding Wynn being powerless outside of technique,
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Old 2016-06-21, 21:35   Link #70
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My understanding of Wynn's future position is that
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Regarding NTR, I don't see it happening.
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Regarding Wynn being powerless outside of technique,
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Old 2016-06-21, 21:52   Link #71
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Old 2016-06-22, 09:26   Link #72
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I have a question for the Raws reader: are there any development between Letti and Wynn? Specifically on Wynn's part? Letti is pretty much head over heels for him anyway.
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Old 2016-06-22, 12:42   Link #73
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Is there a reason people aren't trying to use Wynn to train their soldiers in swordmanship? Wasn't that the whole reason why Leti was so successful? Or is it that her mana or whatever is op? Haven't read the novel but am going to read it once the chapters stack up.
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Old 2016-06-22, 12:57   Link #74
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Is there a reason people aren't trying to use Wynn to train their soldiers in swordmanship?
Is because in this world nobles ARE exactly like how medieval nobles were in reality; and there is no way in hell they'll take instructions from a low birth. Even if Wynn would take regular dudes and train them, nobility would still get in the way because having a commoners' platoon (specially if they can make achievements regularly) is far from anything desireable (even if the country goes to hell due to them being petty).

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Wasn't that the whole reason why Leti was so successful? Or is it that her mana or whatever is op? Haven't read the novel but am going to read it once the chapters stack up.
Letty was indeed special for her swordmanship; her swordmanship and vitality are (apparently) much higher than her already high mp capacity; let alone than in caothic battles using Wynn's dodging focusing style was way better than standing still throwing faiya borutos.
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Old 2016-06-22, 14:20   Link #75
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So...basically stupidity and silly pride :c
So he hasn't taught anyone except Leticia?
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Old 2016-09-05, 05:13   Link #76
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Not simply "stupidity". Even if you have a really smart and knowledgeable child among the student, you still use adults with the proper diploma to teach children, not that child.

This may change for wynn in the future, but Wynn was on the side of being taught, not of teaching. Because on everything else than swordsmanship, that's the correct situation.
After he completely graduates from the school this may change, but for now, that's not really possible.


Also, with volume 6, there's finally a clear answer as to who between Leticia and Wynn is better at Swordsmanship alone.
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Old 2016-09-05, 05:41   Link #77
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Not simply "stupidity". Even if you have a really smart and knowledgeable child among the student, you still use adults with the proper diploma to teach children, not that child.

This may change for wynn in the future, but Wynn was on the side of being taught, not of teaching. Because on everything else than swordsmanship, that's the correct situation.
After he completely graduates from the school this may change, but for now, that's not really possible.


Also, with volume 6, there's finally a clear answer as to who between Leticia and Wynn is better at Swordsmanship alone.
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On Wynn not being someone the "Nobles" would allow to teach their children swordsmanship: And if the same held true for Leticia, I would accept your argument. However, these same "Nobles" would happily stab each other in the back to get Leticia to teach their children for a day, while snubbing her teacher, and purposefully ignoring the fact that by getting Wynn to teach Swordsmanship, they might be able to get Leticia to teach Magic. And this isn't something that's going to change when he graduates, because it's not really something about Wynn, but about how they perceive him.


On better pure swordsman: Spoilers, please? How did it get answered? Why were they fighting? Did either Leticia or Wynn, or both of them, hold back at all?
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Old 2016-09-05, 06:42   Link #78
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On Wynn not being someone the "Nobles" would allow to teach their children swordsmanship: And if the same held true for Leticia, I would accept your argument. However, these same "Nobles" would happily stab each other in the back to get Leticia to teach their children for a day, while snubbing her teacher, and purposefully ignoring the fact that by getting Wynn to teach Swordsmanship, they might be able to get Leticia to teach Magic. And this isn't something that's going to change when he graduates, because it's not really something about Wynn, but about how they perceive him.


On better pure swordsman: Spoilers, please? How did it get answered? Why were they fighting? Did either Leticia or Wynn, or both of them, hold back at all?
You realize that Leticia is extremely highborn noblesse, right. As for allowing to teach, well she has the Yuusha status. She's above anyone else in rank. No military rank is above hers, so obviously she can teach.
Only the emperor's family itself is clearly above her family in the empire. At the very least the neighbourhood kingdoms would give a LOT to have their children taught by wynn. And Ipersonally think that it IS going to change after he graduates (if not before that) in the empire as well.

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Old 2016-09-05, 07:16   Link #79
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On Leticia Teaching: That's actually my point. They'd be DELIGHTED to have her teach, especially because she has a high rank. Honestly, the only significant difference between the two as teachers, where pure swordsmanship is concerned, is that Leticia has a noble title & authority and Wynn doesn't. Ignoring that minor detail, the other differences is that Wynn taught Leticia, and thus has more teaching experience, and Leticia has more magic power. The only real reason to not even consider the possibility of wanting Wynn to teach their children swordsmanship is nothing more than pure ego, and Wynn graduating isn't going to change anything about the "Noble's" over inflated egos.


On Wynn teaching in other kingdoms: And? If Wynn doesn't want to live in or under the rule of other kingdoms, what the nobles in those kingdoms would pay for him to teach isn't really relevant. Yes, the same can be said for Wynn not wanting to teach right now, however, there's an important difference. The difference between something he doesn't want to do at all (become a citizen of a new country) against something that he might be able to do in his downtime (teach children, particularly Noble Children the art of Sword Fighting). Basically the difference between giving up his dream to become a tutor, and fulfilling his dream and taking a side job.


On the Country Changing before Wynn Graduates: Actually, I find this quite likely, too. However, I see it happening to the point where it can't really be called the same country as it is in the novels now. I mean, sure, the Royal Family might remain the same bloodline... not so much the Noble Families, however. I, personally, am rooting for the almost-certainly-noway-its-going-to-happen ending, where both the girls after him latch on to him before saying "I'm not letting go" to the other and to him. Which is basically the only way I see him getting with either of them, but I want it to happen with both of them in a close time frame.


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Old 2016-09-05, 10:16   Link #80
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On Leticia Teaching: That's actually my point. They'd be DELIGHTED to have her teach, especially because she has a high rank. Honestly, the only significant difference between the two as teachers, where pure swordsmanship is concerned, is that Leticia has a noble title & authority and Wynn doesn't. Ignoring that minor detail, the other differences is that Wynn taught Leticia, and thus has more teaching experience, and Leticia has more magic power. The only real reason to not even consider the possibility of wanting Wynn to teach their children swordsmanship is nothing more than pure ego, and Wynn graduating isn't going to change anything about the "Noble's" over inflated egos.


On Wynn teaching in other kingdoms: And? If Wynn doesn't want to live in or under the rule of other kingdoms, what the nobles in those kingdoms would pay for him to teach isn't really relevant. Yes, the same can be said for Wynn not wanting to teach right now, however, there's an important difference. The difference between something he doesn't want to do at all (become a citizen of a new country) against something that he might be able to do in his downtime (teach children, particularly Noble Children the art of Sword Fighting). Basically the difference between giving up his dream to become a tutor, and fulfilling his dream and taking a side job.


On the Country Changing before Wynn Graduates: Actually, I find this quite likely, too. However, I see it happening to the point where it can't really be called the same country as it is in the novels now. I mean, sure, the Royal Family might remain the same bloodline... not so much the Noble Families, however. I, personally, am rooting for the almost-certainly-noway-its-going-to-happen ending, where both the girls after him latch on to him before saying "I'm not letting go" to the other and to him. Which is basically the only way I see him getting with either of them, but I want it to happen with both of them in a close time frame.


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No, I don't think this would be a problem for Wynn to teach after graduating. The thing in the Empire is, Leticia has proved herself by killing the demon king, but for Wynn, we only have Leticia's word for him being her master. Is he really really as good as her in swordsmanship? without proving himself there's no way to know that. A few nobles around him are acknowledging him already by now. Some of the fight he participated in had to be kept secret, so that doesn't help either.

It's different in other kingdoms because they're not directly facing him, it's only rumour. As an empire ambassador pointed out with amusement, the image most folks in other countries have of the rumoured "master of the brave" in their rumours and stories about him is a white haired old man and so on, not a young man.
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