2010-12-17, 19:24 | Link #43 |
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I think it was excellent. My mom said she was blown away by seeing a 25-years-younger Jeff Bridges on the screen at the same time as the current Bridges. There was so much of other sci-fi works in this movie. Obviously there were lots of little, one-liner or barely noticeable references to the first movie, but it was riddled with homages to Star Wars, The Matrix, and there was a TON of Ghost in the Shell in this. I don't know if I was just reading a lot of GitS into the movie, but at every turn I was thinking, "Yeah, that's right out of GitS." I want a Quorra, btw. Quorra = very yes Gotta buy the soundtrack. So good.
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2010-12-17, 19:34 | Link #44 |
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Hmm.. A movie that has some elements of other sci-fi movies, and some Ghost in the Shell... Sounds tempting, I have considered watching this, but was gonna wait till more people posted about how they viewed it to make sure I don't waste money (of course I should consider how I view it alone, but reading what other people say helps alot)
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I must warn people, though, that Bridges definitely channels his inner hippie/Jeffrey "Dude" Lebowski at times. I was half-expecting him to say, "The rug really tied the room together," at some point. But other than that, I think everything fit well. Spoiler for sort of... not really, though. No real plot divulged here. More commentary about why the movie works.:
I definitely recommend seeing it.
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2010-12-18, 04:21 | Link #46 |
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i'd recommend people to watch it as well if they're fans of sci-fi movies or not. the first tron movie was made before my mom gave birth to me and it was very enjoyable without knowing the majority of its background from the first movie.
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2010-12-18, 05:24 | Link #47 |
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Excellent movie. Was also the first time I watched anything in 3D, though it wasn't super-uber... But still, loved the music and the visual style. Acting, especially from Bridges, was excellent. The fact that it wasn't purely visuals and that it actually had some thinking behind it puts it high on my list.
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2010-12-18, 12:54 | Link #48 |
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Good movie. The 3D did strain my eyes a little due to not being able to blink for fear I might miss something.
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I would like to see what would happen if they original was done with these graphics. 1982 was the infant stage of cgi/animation quality. I thought at first that the film was more violent that the first...it isn't, just the graphical quality has changed...the number of people getting "killed" is about the same...just how "death' is show has been updated and the general state of injury is higher since it has been almost 30 years since the first film. It is still Disney.
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2010-12-18, 14:54 | Link #49 |
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Went to see the film at the IMAX today, and i must say i was absolutely blown away. The visuals of the grid and the Dark Punk score are easily the high points of the film, though it's nice that the story isn't that bad either. Some of the writing and dialogue make you think you're watching a film from the 80s, though that was probably the theme they were going for.
My god that Daft Punk score. I've been listening to it quite a bit since the CD release, though it was a total different experience hearing it during the film. Especially once we entered Spoiler:
I'm hoping the release of this film means a re-release of the original. A lot of my friends won't go and see Legacy because they haven't seen the original.
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2010-12-18, 16:04 | Link #50 |
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I entered the theatre having no knowledge of the film (beyond actors and director name, etc), and was more than pleasantly surprised.
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2010-12-18, 18:59 | Link #53 |
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Even the Costumes in 'TRON: Legacy' Are High-Tech
"Director Joseph Kosinski decided that he wanted the suits to actually light up, so
that the actors would illuminate each other on set. The filmmakers created costumes using brand-new technology that allowed for sleek, streamlined suits that could glow without the help of visual effects. They look great on-screen, but they were a nightmare for the actors who wear them." See: http://blog.movies.yahoo.com/blog/31...e-high-tech?nc Sometimes you gotta suffer for your art, I suppose. |
2010-12-19, 15:22 | Link #54 |
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In a word: bad.
The people writing this not only have no concept of the original movie, but no concept of a coherent plot, either. "Hey, let's go to this place we just established that we can't go!" Too many plot holes, and no real sense of this world inside the computer, and the way they changed things, made this a huge failure, in my opinion. Acting was decent, and the soundtrack was good, but that's it. Seriously. Do NOT waste your money to see this. They took everything good about the first film, and mutilated it. The light cycles? Destroyed. Anyone who likes these light cycles, has never watched the original movie light cycle fight, and has never played the light cycle games. The whole idea behind the walls these cycles leave behind, is to make the arena shrink and become more complex, upping the ante as time went by. You get NONE of this forming claustrophobia in the T:L's light cycles. The plot itself was dumb as hell. So CLUE wants to go to the real world, and to do that, he needs Jeff Bridge's disc. And he needs Sam to lure out the father. So what does he do? Sends a page, that he has no idea who will get it, and thus no idea if Sam will ever come through. It could have been the other dude. And what does he do once Sam is in? Try to kill him. That makes a lot of sense; try to kill the guy you need to lure out the father, when you were damn lucky to get Sam instead of someone else in the first place! What are rocks doing in my computer world? The original Tron's graphics might seem hokey now, but they were cutting edge then, and really captured the feeling that you were in this strange computer world. I got NONE of that from this; it just seemed like another Earth to me. I was never brought out of my world at all. And Sam is Jackie Chan? When did this happen? When did he become an Instant Expert in discs and Matrix moves and light cycles? The first film was better because Flynn wasn't much of a fighter. He fumbled around a lot, and it took him time to get used to things, and the main fighter was Tron; a program specifically made to fight. Tron should have been kicking all the ass here. But I know what this was; it was an attempt to cash in on the Matrix craze, except Disney is a bit too late for that. What I would have done: take the true spirit of the Internet and current dangers, by having Encom's grid be infected by a computer virus or malware or being taken over by a botnet, which takes over the laser and traps Flynn in the grid, and his son discovers this and accidentally goes in after him (or the botnet zaps him in as well to get rid of him). They had a real chance to do something interesting in this movie, and failed spectacularly. They gave us a cheesy B-movie action flick, trying to cash in on the Matrix and other bullet-time action flicks. In short, if you saw the original film, do yourself a favor and don't see this. If you didn't see the film, you won't get any references anyway (and there are depressingly few of them from the first movie). The only way you'd get anything out of this movie, is if you're brain dead, and aren't attempting to engage this film in any intellectual capacity. I could go on, but Spoony over at The Spoony Experiment pretty much covers a lot of the thoughts I could have. |
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I think the Soundtrack by Daft Punk was definitely the standout part of this movie for me along with the whole vision of the The Grid. Jeff Bridges was great though (I swear he just played The Dude for a good chunk of it) and Garret Hedlund was solid as Sam Flynn. Michael Sheen was amusing as Zuse but was a little too hammy at parts and ended up overkilling the role a bit I felt. As for Olivia Wilde, she seemed a little dumbfounded and like she needed more direction in a lot of her scenes and I don't know how much of that was intentional for her character and how much it was having to work with a far more charismatic Jeff Bridges who takes over every scene he's in pretty much every movie. Though I'm pretty sure a big part of her role was spelled out in the scene where she's posing on the couch in that skintight leather outfit.
As for the plot...well it was passable and appropriate for a Disney Movie I felt, but kind of disjointed and convenient at times in a way I'm sure even kids might pick up on. It was like an 80's movie really, predictable to a fault at every turn and very family friendly. It could be argued that that was entirely appropriate for a sequel to Tron. Also this was the first movie I've seen in 3D since the early 90's and I still don't think the technology is there yet even with a movie that was made for 3D like this one. Anyone remember the part in Back to The Future Part II where Marty is looking at the Jaws-3D billboard and the shark comes out and it looks like he's going to bite him and he jumps back. That's basically what everybody in the movie theater was doing and I assume that's the effect they were going for here for the most part. Unfortunately it still felt very much like a gimmick and a distraction other than a couple of parts like the dotted window barrier in Kevin's hideout, the initial transition into The Grid (the way it played out like crossing a boundary was the sole part I felt added to the overall visual experience) and a few of the particle effects. It certainly didn't feel worth the extra 3 bucks I spent on the ticket. If I had to play the critic I'd probably give it something like 3 out of 5 stars and say that the movie is pretty much every you would expect going in, for better and for worse. Jeff Bridges and Daft Punk get a solid 5 out 5 stars though. Quote:
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2010-12-19, 17:43 | Link #56 |
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^For a real experience in 3D, you should check out the animated features Coraline and How to Train Your Dragon. They are the 2 best examples of the power of 3D when it is used correctly. (You'll have to buy the 3D versions of the films though, and of course 3D on a smaller screen is no where near as good as 3D on a larger screen). Besaides that, anything animated from Dreamworks will have good 3D (though the movie content will be a little iffy), and while Pixar hasn't mastered the process yet their 3D is still pretty good as well (they haven't quite figured out 3D yet, but their movies are very good, so average 3D with a very good film is still a decent experience).
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2010-12-19, 17:56 | Link #57 |
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Coraline is a must for anyone who wants to experience a true 3D film. Usually i'm against films that are played in 3D just for the sake of it, though not here. Seeing the Grid come to life was such a huge part of my enjoyment for the film, especially on such a huge screen, the IMAX.
Planning to go see the film again this week. I must have seriously enjoyed the hell out of it, because i've never done that before.
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I saw the Spoony Review. All points he makes about plot holes and inconsistencies are fair except for the one where he talks about:
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Other than that yeah, if you go into this movie with any other attitude then just going with the story, watching the visuals and listening to the soundtrack it's going to fall completely apart at a rapid pace with legitimate plot holes like the big one I tried to point out to my stubborn ass friend that Spoony mentions where: Spoiler:
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Daft Punk obviously saw the work-print and deliberately designed the soundtrack to sync up with and enhance the visuals which is something they've always been good at IMO. I've listened to the soundtrack since seeing the movie and it's good Electronica, but it still doesn't capture the whole mood and experience of seeing it to the film. |
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