Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha Character Creation and Discussion

[KBTKaiser]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

First time I've heard Garnet Moon, but damn does this song kick ass... know where I can get it?

Must say your scenes work well with the music, especially the transitions amongst the Kitsune Musume

The link I used was the OP animation for Banpresto(SRW) and From Software(Armored Core)'s Another Century's Episode. You heard me, SRW Crossover + Armored Core engine.

*hides his second theme, which is named Glorious*

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by KBTKaiser

The link I used was the OP animation for Banpresto(SRW) and From Software(Armored Core)'s Another Century's Episode. You heard me, SRW Crossover + Armored Core engine.

*hides his second theme, which is named Glorious*

That much I know at least I'm just wondering where I can get JUST the song

[dkellis]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

And I'm not sure about not well explained - some of Glock's chapters are dedicated to explaining who and what the Necron are

The details are what trip me up, really, such as the little things like what their armaments look like or sound like.

A large part of it is just the way I write: if I know something has its roots in some other fictional work, and is a straight reference (rather than just a broad archetype), then I am deathly afraid of getting it wrong. Which is one reason why I'm reluctant to write much even in the Nanohaverse; I know so little about how the Infinite Library works.

[KBTKaiser]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

That much I know at least I'm just wondering where I can get JUST the song

Well...I did find a very active discography of the vocalist(Shimatani Hitomi) at isohunt...

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by dkellis

The details are what trip me up, really, such as the little things like what their armaments look like or sound like.

A large part of it is just the way I write: if I know something has its roots in some other fictional work, and is a straight reference (rather than just a broad archetype), then I am deathly afraid of getting it wrong. Which is one reason why I'm reluctant to write much even in the Nanohaverse; I know so little about how the Infinite Library works.

Well, to be truthful most of the background knowledge about the Necrons I gleaned from wiki, and I was first introduced to them by the Dawn of War PC game (which would be your only source of what the Necron sound like, since you don't get that in the original tabletop game ).

If you're truly interested in finding out what a reference is about, it's easy enough to search for the appropriate info: Youtube should have some Warhammer 40000 Dawn of War Dark Crusade videos showing some Necrons kicking ass, Like this one. . I find that searching for what a reference is about can lead to some unexpected inspirations at times (like with the Cthulu Mythos ).

Originally Posted by KBTKaiser

Well...I did find a very active discography of the vocalist(Shimatani Hitomi) at isohunt...

Sweedelicious

[dkellis]

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Well, to be truthful most of the background knowledge about the Necrons I gleaned from wiki, and I was first introduced to them by the Dawn of War PC game (which would be your only source of what the Necron sound like, since you don't get that in the original tabletop game ).

If you're truly interested in finding out what a reference is about, it's easy enough to search for the appropriate info: Youtube should have some Warhammer 40000 Dawn of War Dark Crusade videos showing some Necrons kicking ass, Like this one. . I find that searching for what a reference is about can lead to some unexpected inspirations at times (like with the Cthulu Mythos ).

Okay, I have to agree that the video does have lots of Necron arse-kickery. Very nice.

I'm hoping that future references will be rather more transparent, and if they turn out to be Shared OC Alterverse-spanning ones like the Necron threat, it'll be open enough to those who've never heard of the source.

[FlameSparkZ]

Nice OPs everyone

LoweGear, you could make one for Mai and her comrades.

Let's see..."Bravin' Bad Brew" (Venus Versus Virus OP), what do you say?

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by FlameSparkZ

Nice OPs everyone

LoweGear, you could make one for Mai and her comrades.

Let's see..."Bravin' Bad Brew" (Venus Versus Virus OP), what do you say?

Not one to actually make fan-op videos, but I'm checking out that OP... looks good so far, and Bravin' Bad Brew is loads of awesome I'm just content actually having a concrete image of Mai, which I still haven't done for Kay and Glock (oe even Smith and Wesson)

[KBTKaiser]

Hrm...try to use Sora Iro Days(Nakagawa Shoko) as my one of my next themes or not... >>;

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by KBTKaiser

Hrm...try to use Sora Iro Days(Nakagawa Shoko) as my one of my next themes or not... >>;

...



Will it involve HOTBLOODED MANLY DRILLS OF EPICSIUM?!?!

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by Fuyu no Sora

Very cute Kero-kun ^^ When will we see Part 3?

Depends, I do have a lot more spare time at the moment, but my lack of skill when it comes to writing fluff may slow it down somewhat.

Originally Posted by Kha

Aw... Yeah I am wondering how things work the next day...

But somebody's gotta nerf the Shari Home Video camera.

Do you honestly want to try and stop Hayate when she's in that mood?

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

Awww. The exchange of goodnights part was pretty damned cute. And Keroko doing the Tendou Souji pose was nice. So she's mainly a meat-eater then? Nice work.

Tendou Souji? *looks up* Well what do you know, accidental reference.

Yes, Keroko likes meat. She can be picky where vegetables are concerned, but there is hardly any type of meat she doesn't like.

Originally Posted by LoweGear

Chrono is acting more like Kyon every second Anyways, nice to see more of the sibling relationship between Nanoha and Keroko, very touching . And what the - Why are Chrono and the others watching?

Better brace yourself for the next chapter then, I'm not surprised if I accidentally end up typing Kyon a couple of times.

As to why Chrono and the others are watching.... A better way to put the question would by why is Chrono watching with the others, because we all know the reason why the Wolkies are watching.

Originally Posted by Liingo

What's with the hidden camera's everywhere
Did Nanoha only give in because she didn't want to end up cosplaying somewhere in the future?

Now it wouldn't be a hidden camera if Nanoha knew about it, would it?

Originally Posted by dkellis

The details are what trip me up, really, such as the little things like what their armaments look like or sound like.

A large part of it is just the way I write: if I know something has its roots in some other fictional work, and is a straight reference (rather than just a broad archetype), then I am deathly afraid of getting it wrong. Which is one reason why I'm reluctant to write much even in the Nanohaverse; I know so little about how the Infinite Library works.

I'm also afraid of getting it wrong, but I love the references. Why? Because whenever I want to use something, I go on an extensive research to see if I'm getting it right (despite my more-then-average warhammer knowledge, my Necron knowledge nearly doubled these last few months). Which leads to discovering thingsI would have previously ignored. Mecha anime, for example, never held much apeal to me before this thread started.

Originally Posted by dkellis

Okay, I have to agree that the video does have lots of Necron arse-kickery. Very nice.

I'm hoping that future references will be rather more transparent, and if they turn out to be Shared OC Alterverse-spanning ones like the Necron threat, it'll be open enough to those who've never heard of the source.

The Necron thing was something that spun horrible out of control, as I can remember that it was actually meant to be nothing more then a reference.

But what do you men by open enough? I mean, there will always be people who never heard of the source.

[KBTKaiser]

Replace Drills with Blades and Gun barrels.

[Kha]

Originally Posted by KBTKaiser

Well, after a lengthy discussion with Aaron, it's time to let the cat peer out of the bag.

Spoiler for Um...O-KAY....:

After a few days in which Mabiko settled in(And Vinson lost more blood), Aurion was working on some prototypes when Mabiko came into the lab with a datapad.

Aurion: Why, commander, what brings you to my humble abode? Certainly it's not to hide from Cressida, is it? Or is it to avoid Liana's health drink?

Mabiko: Spare me the drama, "uncle". I need you to take a look at this function I had Shari at RF6 cook up for my familiars' devices.

Mabiko handed the datapad over to Aurion who frowned over the information displayed.

Aurion: Quite a piece of work you got here, ojou-chan...from what Hayate says of you, however, it's just like you to make this fatal flaw.

Mabiko: eh?

Aurion: This structural layout puts all the burden on yourself. You can't shield your familiars forever...

Mabiko: To be honest, I never wanted them to fight...I wanted them to stay near me so that I could protect them. It's the least I could do with my full abilities.

Aurion: That may be so, girl, but those familiars of yours won't be coddled for long...

Aurion returned his attention to the datapad.

Aurion: However, I might be able to whip up something of a booster device for each of your familiars. This way you can focus on yourself and not worry about the girls.

Mabiko: How long would it take to fashion such supplementary devices?

Aurion: Hrm...two...maybe three weeks for the prototypes.

Mabiko: Consider yourself commisioned then. I'll await the results.

Mabiko turned and left the lab in a brisk step, leaving Aurion to look over the data some more...

Aurion: ...Talk about a firebrand...no wonder Hayate likes to poke fun at her so much...

...Plus parts, anyone?

Originally Posted by LoweGear

H-SHE LIVES!!!! THE GOD EMPRESS LIVES!!!! THE STAR CHILD HAS RETURNED!!!!!! THE RISE OF THE IMPERIUM HAS BEGUN!!!

Watch out for the ION CANON though...

Well it's a whimsical thought. We'll never know until the God Empress is found...

Originally Posted by Erio

Spoiler for length:

Well, I managed to squeeze a few internet minutes before going out, so here I continue the discussion.

OK, first, I'd like to apologize to An Hero in Disguise, as apparently the way I explained myself led everyone to believe that I want Serge nerfed. Personally, I dont. In any universe there are people better than others, and in Serge's case it is because of his innate ability of Flow Manipulation, an ability that An Hero explained to be extremely rare. Serge may very well be the only person alive with such ability. Also, Serge can very well be that "last boss" every other OC is planning to beat at some point. The idea that I really wanted to portray was the fact that Serge is only 2 years old than our Aces, yet at the time of the battle against the Aces, he was so much more experienced than them, being able to defeat them one by one without much problem.

Also, an apology to Kha. I mentioned Kha because he was also an very well developed character for his age. I never mentioned that he was overpowered. In fact, I believe he is very well balanced. I only mentioned him because I wanted to know how Kha fights battles... maybe I should have left this comment for another time, huh?

Yup, he only has one unique ability. However, such ability is so damn awesome (believe me, I really like it) that he can counterattack everything. What was really intriguing to me is how well thought up his skills set is. Serge surely had a lot of combat experience before that battle, despite his young age. He also noticed his only weakness in that battle against the Aces, so I'm sure he's now prepared to deal with a similar scenario again. And to think that Aether Origin has yet to reveal his 2 (!) ultimate forms... holy sh--!

Hmm, I do apologize, Kha. The idea behind mentioning Kha was completely mixed up with what I was saying about Serge. However, I reiterate: I do not think Kha is overpowered; I believe he is very well balanced. I was just wondering how well he fights with such a move list.

Oh No worries, I'm used to it; Kha's being too powerful has been a problem right from inception, so its always a constant balancing act.

I must say, ever since Loner pointed out that Kha had a canon conflict, and was h4xx, he's been torn down and rebuilt, and somehow it turned out better than ever. It's partly because he's more normal, and yet not so normal. Now's the time to bring it all together in one big Bluecheesium quadruple post, and finalize it in Codex, though I'd rather put it on my blog due to the sheer length of such a detailed character + skills + history.

However, along the way, I might have grown Kha to be too powerful, just like how 3 little girls grew up into 3 of the most famous h4xx0r5 of all TSAB. Now to see if canon has anyone who can top them, then we know whether Kha truly is overpowered.

Originally Posted by Saint X

Spoiler for This time, Rurika is on the bar stool:

Ruri: A drink?
Liana: here you go, try this...
*looks around and sees Kha, Nanoha, Keroko and Minerva holding up the 'Do not drink it' sign- with small print- 'the captain's down because of 'that'"*
*Ruri sips and pauses, earning the relief of the poster holders- until she also downed it in one go- shocking them*
Ruri: ...
*she stands up and faces away from the camera*
Kha: uh-oh...
Ashton: Ruri? are you okay?
Ruri: ...
*camera pans to her face, showing red patches on her cheeks*
Ruri: hik... hik... hik...
Ash: Ruri?
Ruri: hik... hik... hik...
Ash: Uhm... ano... Ruri?
Ruri: hik... hik... hik...
*Ruri faces the camera- showing read patches- a sign of being drunk. on her face is sad euphoria. But then, she closes to Ashton and begins to unbutton her uniform top.
Ruri: Ne, am i hot?
Ash: Ruri, what's the matter with you?
Ruri: ... ... ... YOU MEANIE!!! *Punches Ashton* HOW DARE YOU ASK THAT TO ME? How come you did not gun for me, the closest girl you ever had?!! i was just right beside you!
*some try to stop Ruri from stripping*
Ruri: I was just beside you and here you are, having secret 'unison' sessions with Nakajima! you always 'being together as one' and all of that 'Symmetrical docking' things!!!... hu hu hu! WAAAAAAAAA... WHY COULDN'T I HAVE A BOYFRIEND!!! EVEN THE ONE BOY I SECRETLY LIKED ON EARTH I CAUGHT KISSING WITH SOMEBODY ELSE! WAAAAAAAAAA...
*Ruri cries like a sad drunk while "..." grips the room
*back on Earth, a boy with a cut chain bracelet is surprised to see his accessory jiggle and point towards the sky.
??????: huh?

Rurika has unfulfilled secret desires?

o_0 Wow that was a surprise... How many more permutations are there? I see Hayate falling in love with Acous when it works like a love potion, and Kaempfer turning into a frog for the sheer WTF factor.

Kaempfer: ...

Tsukaima really get the worst deal.

Zafira: ...

Yes.

Mai: ...

I must point out that Kha the OC likes the drink like Fate, and its Kha the Ultra-Director (me) doesn't...

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Part 12 Part 2 HERE NAO! I've also reposted something I did in the Fanfic's thread, just since I'm kinda more or less mildly lost on how it really goes, so take it as a non-canon crack from the only Siglio shipper in existence. And also..Saga's image song. :3

Spoiler for Part 12 : 2 Of :

~Part XII Verse ~ Soldier ~

~Saga~

“Siege Cannon Division! Load Giga-Cartridges… FIRE!!!”



As I ordered, the giant siege cannons, powered by an over-sized Belkan Cartridge System along with handler-mages, fired a continuous barrage of heavy and powerful blast of concentrated magical burst, perpetuating a blaze of flames, putting the front-guards of the opposition forces, their guardian beast, up in flames.



From beyond the flames, another surge of enemies rushed through, and the battles raged on….

Amidst the scenes of bloodshed, hidden in the sights of the rampage of gore and destruction… formations of magical circles can be seen as a small group of mages were chanting…

A summoning circle!

From within the crops of shrouding smokes…several knights were taken by surprise as they were brutally attacked and chopped into pieces by the summoned beast monsters… The most dangerous kind, brutal and carnivorous…

If it was 2 years ago… I would’ve commanded a reformation, but I have faith. These men…have fought with me, just as they understands me…I know, that they can fight accordingly.

However… I had seen this before. Yes, in one of my first battles as the General… I remember that day like a pained memory.

A growl, a monstrous cry, it shouted just as a gust of wind flew by…and a man was standing atop the gigantic beast, and within an instant.



“Load Cartridge!”

[Explosion!]

The monster’s head was decapitated.



Isdera… Just like that day, that night, that battle. Has it really been 2 years now?

The battles raged on, severed limbs, lost lives, screams of agony, the break-down of those whose hearts are weak, the resolution of those who have accepted death in the battlefield, life, death…time moved on, as the moments passes, waiting for no man. There is no one who will see to another’s death in battle, there is no one to offer condolences, there is only yourself, and your fellow comrades, all whom are struggling to live.

It seemed almost equal at first… but as the defense lines of both sides were slowly crippling, at the expense of the increasing corpses on the battlefield…

As expected, this battle is dangerous to us.

The terrain and landscape of this battleground is the enemy’s ground, that by itself is a major disadvantage to our conditional settings… What’s worse, the open plains of the terrain leading towards the capital are wide and long-reaching, making it a sheer impossibility to utilize more compressed tactics and strategy. The conditioning and morale of both sides are about equal… which means structure-breaking, command-disposing and attritional battles are the only ways that are truly viable.

But this battle…we’re outnumbered 3 to 1. And Wira’s not fit for battle, his blood supply still being at 60%... It’s too dangerous to fight a prolonged battle, which means the structural settings itself is not as strong as the Wolkenritter’s commanded lines… Only Astra, Isdera and myself…

Looks like…there’s no other choice, but “that.”

~Astra~

This battle…this is not good. The flux of energies in the field… it’s still stable, but the fluctuation is leaning towards the south…which means, that we’re being slowly, but surely pushed back.

Damn it…why must I be blind when it’s needed the least? It’s too dangerous to use my chains around the middle lines… since I can’t differentiate Linker Core reactions other than Isdera’s…

Establishing a mental link, I tried to call out to Saga…

“Sa-“

“Wait…Astra-sensei.”

My mental link was cut off, as Wira appeared behind me… I couldn’t sense his presence at all...

“What is it, Wira? As you can see, I’m busy. The one who’s half-dead is better off resting. Your strength will be needed later.”

“Half dead…You’re right. I might be dead soon…My life is very close to its end.”

I turned around following Wira’s lubricious suicidal talk only to see Wira…smiling, in a most sad way… his eyes, empty, without any sense of feelings. He…wasn’t joking.

“Why…?”

“The truth is…”

~Saga~

Standing atop the cliff…I am watching my comrades die. It’s painful, but it is my role. As much as I am a knight, I am also their leader.

Wait…Just wait… The time should be soon.

“General… Our flanks are losing. We cannot win with our current strength. Should we retreat for now?”

… I really cannot keep up my composure after all… I know what the strategist is saying, but if we fall back… we will really lose everything, emotionally and spiritually. To come back and fight again after this…there’s no doubt we’ll face an even more severe loss.

“Astra! In 15 seconds, teleport Wira, you and myself, towards Isdera’s coordinates. Make no mistake in the mass calculations.”

“Understood, General.”

After my mental communication to Astra, the strategist vehemently opposed my plans.

“That is too reckless, General! You are needed to be in command. The knights can be replaced, but your pos-“

I snapped as I grabbed him and held by his collar, pulling him up.

“Replaced, you say? My comrades are dying… All of them…are fighting for their lives, because they believe in a future that is possible from their sacrifice…

They are all fighting for their lives. And I will fight as well.

Stand aside.”

Soon…I teleported away to the battlefield with Astra’s magic… and before me, knights lashed out as the battle ensues directly in front of me, all of the Zerstroritter assembled as one.

“General! Astra! Wira..You’re all here.”

“Sorry for the delay…how’s things up front?”

“The left flank…has just been breached. The enemies are focusing their forces there…”

“Then, we should!”

“No… their focused attacks had left them open near the center….”

“Are you saying?”

“Yes…we’ll use this opportunity to strike the command post of the enemy’s.”

Clearly…none of us were happy with what we did. Just as our comrades, just below us were screaming, struggling and hopelessly dying from the concentrated enemy forces…we did nothing, but flew by them and took advantage of that even as their cries resonates deep and far beyond our ears, into our hearts, we can only bear that pain and responsibility…as the few of us, just enough as a forward strike force aimed towards the enemy epicenter.

We flew as fast as we could, myself holding Isdera, as Astra held Wira, evading enemy fires, striking down several stationary defense posts…we flew so hard, the winds were hitting our eyes, our skin, it was a feeling of pain that is miniscule, yet carry so much weight. It was something our armors could easily prevent with a thicker manifestation, but we chose to accept it… It was the symbol of the burden we bear.

That is why…we must win.

Soon… as we approached the command center... the Palace of the Night Sky…

[Schwalbe Fliegen!]

[Sturm Falke!]

An array of powerful attacks, digging out the dirt of the grounds before us…leaving behind craters of scorched earth… Our tracks were stopped as the 2 Knights of the Wolkenritter, stood before us.

“I’ll never allow any of us to get to the Princess.”

“Saladin! I will kill you!! I will avenge Tesla!!” (( No, Tesla’s not dead, but her injury’s too serious. ))

Just as I’m about to draw out Null… Isdera…and Wira stopped me.

“Go… we’ll hold them off.”

“You…”

Their eyes…they’re determined to see this to the very end. Isdera and the Blazing General…Wira and the Iron Count… how ironic, that the counterparts I chose to be the equalizer to the Wolkenritter will finally end it all here.

“Don’t die, the both of you.”

“Naturally.”

“…”

“Let’s go, Astra.”

This is the last hurdle. The flying castle of the Night Sky…, a lost relic of ancient times...soon, everything will end.



~Tiara~

It’s painful… This conjunction, of magical spells, maintaining its pressure… Unlike before, I can no longer put too much pressure on my body. Otherwise… my child, Saga’s child may…

But I need to complete it…combining the effects of Mandrake with Ragnarok Breaker’s status effects…

Saladin will be here soon.

And then… I must defeat him…No, I will defeat him.

And then…everything will end…

Next part shouldn't take TOO long...Since I'll be throwing in bits of Signum/Isdera and Vita/Wira along with some Shamal/Astra... expect some sap soon. And maybe...just maybe, we'll cover Saga/Tiara too.

And here's Saga's image song...Not in Japanese. It's his image song, which reflects his future events and conditions a little, so probably a little spoiler here and there.

So, just imagine Hoshi Souichiro in his deep, melancholic voice singing this and you'll do fine.

Spoiler for Hurt by Johnny Cash:

I hurt myself today
to see if I still feel
I focus on the pain
the only thing that's real
the needle tears a hole
the old familiar sting
try to kill it all away
but I remember everything
what have I become?
my sweetest friend
everyone I know
goes away in the end
and you could have it all
my empire of dirt

I will let you down
I will make you hurt

I wear this crown of thorns
upon my liar's chair
full of broken thoughts
I cannot repair
beneath the stains of time
the feelings disappear
you are someone else
I am still right here

what have I become?
my sweetest friend
everyone I know
goes away in the end
and you could have it all
my empire of dirt

I will let you down
I will make you hurt

if I could start again
a million miles away
I would keep myself
I would find a way

Anyway, with my canon/fanon stuff done...let's move on to stuff that's really fanon...

BE CONVERTED TO SIGLIO!!!!! Repost from the Fanfic Thread. :3

Spoiler for Preview:

I have remembered everything.

My memories... my past as a Belkan Knight, the voids of previous Meisters of the Tome...the suffering wrought from the Tome, everything...even the ones before my past.

I see...so that is what had happened...

Elio-kun...

~~~

Standing amidst a blaze of fiery flames, the mysterious assailant appeared from within the burning air, holding a sword in one hand and Caro, unconscious in the other...

As the blurs of the motion clear, as the fleeting spurs of the air stable... it was clear...

It was Signum.

~~~

"What is the meaning of this!? Signum! Answer me!" Fate shouted, her face diswrought from confusion and question, seeing her very own 2nd in command in an act that can be considered a betrayal to everything.

Signum...the least likely person, the one no one would remotely doubt, was betraying everything she stood and fought for.

"Testarossa...no...Fate-san. I have not betrayed anyone."

~~~

"You've improved, Elio-..." Signum spoke, her face silent, unwavering, despite dropping her blade with Strada milimeters away from her face.

"What is the meaning of this...Signum-san? Why? Why are you doing this?"

Elio was no different from Fate...He was Signum's direct subordinate. Signum was someone Elio...no, everyone who was in the RF6 respected and looked up to.

"You wouldn't understand even if I told you...Elio-kun."

Her eyes was sad. But it was not of defeat, it was not of dishonor...it was because of Elio's words.

Why? Why? No one understood. But she knew...Signum knew what her choices would lead her to.

~~~

"Elio-kun...goodbye."

Signum leapt away as she fell into the dimensional abyss. A vortex of instable dimensional time-space tear...

"Signum-san!!!!!!!!!!"

~~~

Elio...kun.

I wanted to tell you.

I wanted to tell you...that I was your Caro.

I want you to call me like you always did...hold me, to love me...

I wanted you to know.

But I couldn't.

That is why...I must say my goodbye.

Elio..kun...

~~~

Oh, I want to thank Aaron and Kha for their comments on this repost earlier. :9

Yeah man. Signum = Old Caro FTW!!!

Shirou: Ah-choo!
Kha: Gesundheit.

Originally Posted by dkellis

Hm, I should clarify this. What I meant was that I don't really get the references, and I accept that they're not really that important in the story, but several other things happen:

I lose the "nuance" of the characters. Essentially, to me, the references are just another name or term which could very well be all-original. So, to take an example, assuming Kha (or someone else; just using your character as an example, Kha) uses the Goldion Hammer (the name of which I've heard before, but no more), I don't really have any idea why this is significant. Okay, it is, from the name, a hammer. From context, it's probably powerful or big or whatever. But that's all I'm getting, and all the excitement about it is puzzling, to say the least.

More importantly, since I don't know the reference, all I can do is smile and nod and wait for the conversation to turn to something I recognize. We have this Shared OC Alterverse which I'd love to take part in, but since I know next to nothing about the Necrons from WH40K, I can't write anything about the 37th CIAA meeting them, since I may get things completely wrong. (It'll be a pain to just wing it, get corrected, edit, get corrected again, and edit again, ad infinitum.) So all I can do is try to glean some information about just what these Necrons are from context, and as mentioned, it's not very well explained.

Now, I'm not saying that references are bad. Heck, the 37th CIAA and 8th IAR have their own fair share of references, ranging from the character archetypes to Lila (Specialized Heuristic Organized Data Access Node number 43893, anyone?). However, I'm seeing what looks like references taking over the characters and turning into crossovers.

Basically, the question is such: you've made a reference in the character. Now, assuming that there is someone else who has absolutely no idea what that reference is, can they come in and use that character and lose nothing at all in the translation?

I see we agree. Kha's skills have been explained to near breaking point about how they work (and thus Bluecheesium was seeded) so that anybody else could come in and make him work for them. I had that in mind ever since I started work on him, and I still apply that to all my chars. As questions came up, I clarified and added to it, so I hope it's still good.

BUT as I said earlier, with the advent of Schneiderform, and even more skills and reinterpretations; plus a full synopsis on the uses and limitations of the Reactive Linker Core, I think it's time for the 3rd Edition release of this:

Spoiler for Kha...?:

I'll do my best to cheese the rest!

[Aaron008R]

Originally Posted by KBTKaiser

Well, here's a link to where I got the source music from. >>;
Garnet Moon

Any lyric mistranslations are solely my own inexperience.

Spoiler for Mabiko theme:

Garnet Moon
Vocals: Shimatani Hitomi
Origin: Another Century's Episode

00:00-00:24
As the sun sets on another day, Mabiko watches over her familiars roughhouse in front of the base. As the music begin to wind down, it turns to the darkened sky...

00:24-00:42
A flash in the sky...and dark shadows land around Mabiko, who takes a fighting stance. The new presence alerts the familiars as more shadow land around the five. Knocking aside two of the shadows with a graceful backflip kick, Mabiko lands next to her familiars fully armoring and with Kusanagi and Murakumo drawn. Her familiars arm up as well and all 6 strike out into the shadows as one.

Tenko(Sky Kitsune in Kanji)
Sukai Fokusu(Katakana)

00:42-00:50
Kami ni sashita akai bara wa jyounetsu no iro
[i]The red blossom pinned in the hair is the color of passion[i]

Mabiko is seen fighting through the shadows as her blades flash forward, behind her and stabs one jumping from above and slinging it off into another one behind while kicking one in front of her as she strikes a pose. In the reflection of the blade, we see Yuuki's battle.

00:50-00:56
Watashi wo mita anata marude atsui MATADOORU
You seem like a burning matador as I watch you

Yuuki is shown leaping into the air rapidly kicking multiple shadows in her jump arc as she lands on her hands and goes into a spinning split kick. She stops the spin and lands with her right leg crouched and the left leg stretched straight as she glares at her next target and leaps toward the it, revealing Leticia in the background behind her.

00:56-01:03
Kirabiyaka ni mai odoreba takanaru mune
My chest races as a dazzling dance is done

Leticia fights hand to hand as she changes head parts, firing a barrage of magic bullets about before turning around and changing head gears to unleash an shockwave air blade as she caught three trying to ambush her. Executing a backflip while shifting head gears again, a pair of homing magic bolts was unleashed into the cluster of shadows as she landed staring through the explosion. Off the side of her head gear muzzle flashes were reflected as the view turns to Mikoto.

01:03-01:10
Nido to konai toki no iro wo someru EPISOODO
An episode stained by the color of time that will never come again.

Mikoto sidesteps a blow as she unleashes a single shot into the shadow before changing to a blade arm to parry a blow and slash back as she slides backwards some and then charges forward with an Ice Gauntlet, freezing and shattering her opponent in slow motion. Through the fragments we see Fox Chaser shots refracted as Feena is doing her own dance of death.

01:10-01:16
Moeru omoi kanaderu GITAA
As the guitar plays the inflamed thoughts

Feena is keeping a clean circle around herself as three Fox Chasers arc and curve around her, forcing the shadows back for the moment. But then the shadows surge forward faster than Feena can dispatch them with the Fox Chasers. However, Feena does not flinch as she spread her arms, the orbs on her gauntlets and hip armor glow in affirmation as a triple beam lances out from Feena in the form of Trinity Buster. As the line of fire clears, a large shield could be seen as Erika slams the shield arm into a nearby opponent to continue fighting.

01:16-01:23
Itoshisa wo tsumugu deshou
We weave our love, do we not?

Erika swaps the shield arm for a thunder gauntlet as she kicks one back and slams the gauntlet into the ground for a lightning bolt fissure. Blocking a blow, she changes arms midswing into a flaming punch as the burning opponent is knocked back and into multiple people by the sheer force. Erika punches her fists together as all six converge back to back as the view spirals into the sky to show the horde of black around the 6.

01:23-01:27
Tabibito yo Kizu ato itamu no nara
Travelers, if your wounds still hurt

One of the shadows seems to do a hand motion as larger shadows appear within the ranks and a single large one lurks in the distance.

01:27-01:31
Watashi no mune de nemurinasai
Rest within my embrace

Mabiko throws out Kusanagi and Murakumo and extends a temporary barrier field as the girls assume formation.

01:31-01:34
Itsukushimi nagara tsutsunde
Enveloped by love

The orb of light shatters, sending shadows reeling as a large being of light wields large versions Kusanagi and Murakumo takes flight.

01:34-01:41
Anata dake terasu no
Koyoi no tsuki no you ni
Like the evening moon
Shining only upon you

The larger shadows strike out at the light, but are slashed aside by Kusanagi and Murakumo as it makes contact with the large shadow, the impact turning the night into blinding day. When the light completely blinds the screen, it zooms out to Mabiko and the girls looking into the starry sky from the white roof of the base.

Uuuuu...I don't think I have enough inspiration to go through the 2nd part of the song quite yet.

Cool. And I see what you mean by lack of inspiration for the 2nd part. That song is twice as long as anime openings.

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Part 12 Part 2 HERE NAO! I've also reposted something I did in the Fanfic's thread, just since I'm kinda more or less mildly lost on how it really goes, so take it as a non-canon crack from the only Siglio shipper in existence. And also..Saga's image song. :3

Spoiler for Part 12 : 2 Of :

~Part XII Verse ~ Soldier ~

~Saga~

“Siege Cannon Division! Load Giga-Cartridges… FIRE!!!”



As I ordered, the giant siege cannons, powered by an over-sized Belkan Cartridge System along with handler-mages, fired a continuous barrage of heavy and powerful blast of concentrated magical burst, perpetuating a blaze of flames, putting the front-guards of the opposition forces, their guardian beast, up in flames.



From beyond the flames, another surge of enemies rushed through, and the battles raged on….

Amidst the scenes of bloodshed, hidden in the sights of the rampage of gore and destruction… formations of magical circles can be seen as a small group of mages were chanting…

A summoning circle!

From within the crops of shrouding smokes…several knights were taken by surprise as they were brutally attacked and chopped into pieces by the summoned beast monsters… The most dangerous kind, brutal and carnivorous…

If it was 2 years ago… I would’ve commanded a reformation, but I have faith. These men…have fought with me, just as they understands me…I know, that they can fight accordingly.

However… I had seen this before. Yes, in one of my first battles as the General… I remember that day like a pained memory.

A growl, a monstrous cry, it shouted just as a gust of wind flew by…and a man was standing atop the gigantic beast, and within an instant.



“Load Cartridge!”

[Explosion!]

The monster’s head was decapitated.



Isdera… Just like that day, that night, that battle. Has it really been 2 years now?

The battles raged on, severed limbs, lost lives, screams of agony, the break-down of those whose hearts are weak, the resolution of those who have accepted death in the battlefield, life, death…time moved on, as the moments passes, waiting for no man. There is no one who will see to another’s death in battle, there is no one to offer condolences, there is only yourself, and your fellow comrades, all whom are struggling to live.

It seemed almost equal at first… but as the defense lines of both sides were slowly crippling, at the expense of the increasing corpses on the battlefield…

As expected, this battle is dangerous to us.

The terrain and landscape of this battleground is the enemy’s ground, that by itself is a major disadvantage to our conditional settings… What’s worse, the open plains of the terrain leading towards the capital are wide and long-reaching, making it a sheer impossibility to utilize more compressed tactics and strategy. The conditioning and morale of both sides are about equal… which means structure-breaking, command-disposing and attritional battles are the only ways that are truly viable.

But this battle…we’re outnumbered 3 to 1. And Wira’s not fit for battle, his blood supply still being at 60%... It’s too dangerous to fight a prolonged battle, which means the structural settings itself is not as strong as the Wolkenritter’s commanded lines… Only Astra, Isdera and myself…

Looks like…there’s no other choice, but “that.”

~Astra~

This battle…this is not good. The flux of energies in the field… it’s still stable, but the fluctuation is leaning towards the south…which means, that we’re being slowly, but surely pushed back.

Damn it…why must I be blind when it’s needed the least? It’s too dangerous to use my chains around the middle lines… since I can’t differentiate Linker Core reactions other than Isdera’s…

Establishing a mental link, I tried to call out to Saga…

“Sa-“

“Wait…Astra-sensei.”

My mental link was cut off, as Wira appeared behind me… I couldn’t sense his presence at all...

“What is it, Wira? As you can see, I’m busy. The one who’s half-dead is better off resting. Your strength will be needed later.”

“Half dead…You’re right. I might be dead soon…My life is very close to its end.”

I turned around following Wira’s lubricious suicidal talk only to see Wira…smiling, in a most sad way… his eyes, empty, without any sense of feelings. He…wasn’t joking.

“Why…?”

“The truth is…”

~Saga~

Standing atop the cliff…I am watching my comrades die. It’s painful, but it is my role. As much as I am a knight, I am also their leader.

Wait…Just wait… The time should be soon.

“General… Our flanks are losing. We cannot win with our current strength. Should we retreat for now?”

… I really cannot keep up my composure after all… I know what the strategist is saying, but if we fall back… we will really lose everything, emotionally and spiritually. To come back and fight again after this…there’s no doubt we’ll face an even more severe loss.

“Astra! In 15 seconds, teleport Wira, you and myself, towards Isdera’s coordinates. Make no mistake in the mass calculations.”

“Understood, General.”

After my mental communication to Astra, the strategist vehemently opposed my plans.

“That is too reckless, General! You are needed to be in command. The knights can be replaced, but your pos-“

I snapped as I grabbed him and held by his collar, pulling him up.

“Replaced, you say? My comrades are dying… All of them…are fighting for their lives, because they believe in a future that is possible from their sacrifice…

They are all fighting for their lives. And I will fight as well.

Stand aside.”

Soon…I teleported away to the battlefield with Astra’s magic… and before me, knights lashed out as the battle ensues directly in front of me, all of the Zerstroritter assembled as one.

“General! Astra! Wira..You’re all here.”

“Sorry for the delay…how’s things up front?”

“The left flank…has just been breached. The enemies are focusing their forces there…”

“Then, we should!”

“No… their focused attacks had left them open near the center….”

“Are you saying?”

“Yes…we’ll use this opportunity to strike the command post of the enemy’s.”

Clearly…none of us were happy with what we did. Just as our comrades, just below us were screaming, struggling and hopelessly dying from the concentrated enemy forces…we did nothing, but flew by them and took advantage of that even as their cries resonates deep and far beyond our ears, into our hearts, we can only bear that pain and responsibility…as the few of us, just enough as a forward strike force aimed towards the enemy epicenter.

We flew as fast as we could, myself holding Isdera, as Astra held Wira, evading enemy fires, striking down several stationary defense posts…we flew so hard, the winds were hitting our eyes, our skin, it was a feeling of pain that is miniscule, yet carry so much weight. It was something our armors could easily prevent with a thicker manifestation, but we chose to accept it… It was the symbol of the burden we bear.

That is why…we must win.

Soon… as we approached the command center... the Palace of the Night Sky…

[Schwalbe Fliegen!]

[Sturm Falke!]

An array of powerful attacks, digging out the dirt of the grounds before us…leaving behind craters of scorched earth… Our tracks were stopped as the 2 Knights of the Wolkenritter, stood before us.

“I’ll never allow any of us to get to the Princess.”

“Saladin! I will kill you!! I will avenge Tesla!!” (( No, Tesla’s not dead, but her injury’s too serious. ))

Just as I’m about to draw out Null… Isdera…and Wira stopped me.

“Go… we’ll hold them off.”

“You…”

Their eyes…they’re determined to see this to the very end. Isdera and the Blazing General…Wira and the Iron Count… how ironic, that the counterparts I chose to be the equalizer to the Wolkenritter will finally end it all here.

“Don’t die, the both of you.”

“Naturally.”

“…”

“Let’s go, Astra.”

This is the last hurdle. The flying castle of the Night Sky…, a lost relic of ancient times...soon, everything will end.



~Tiara~

It’s painful… This conjunction, of magical spells, maintaining its pressure… Unlike before, I can no longer put too much pressure on my body. Otherwise… my child, Saga’s child may…

But I need to complete it…combining the effects of Mandrake with Ragnarok Breaker’s status effects…

Saladin will be here soon.

And then… I must defeat him…No, I will defeat him.

And then…everything will end…

Next part shouldn't take TOO long...Since I'll be throwing in bits of Signum/Isdera and Vita/Wira along with some Shamal/Astra... expect some sap soon. And maybe...just maybe, we'll cover Saga/Tiara too.

I can't wait for the eventual confrontation! I'll need the data to be able to fill up the blanks in my scenario.

And here's Saga's image song...Not in Japanese. It's his image song, which reflects his future events and conditions a little, so probably a little spoiler here and there.

So, just imagine Hoshi Souichiro in his deep, melancholic voice singing this and you'll do fine.

Spoiler for Hurt by Johnny Cash:

I hurt myself today
to see if I still feel
I focus on the pain
the only thing that's real
the needle tears a hole
the old familiar sting
try to kill it all away
but I remember everything
what have I become?
my sweetest friend
everyone I know
goes away in the end
and you could have it all
my empire of dirt

I will let you down
I will make you hurt

I wear this crown of thorns
upon my liar's chair
full of broken thoughts
I cannot repair
beneath the stains of time
the feelings disappear
you are someone else
I am still right here

what have I become?
my sweetest friend
everyone I know
goes away in the end
and you could have it all
my empire of dirt

I will let you down
I will make you hurt

if I could start again
a million miles away
I would keep myself
I would find a way

Link's not working where I am right now. I'll listen later. Though the lyrics are very fitting.

Anyway, with my canon/fanon stuff done...let's move on to stuff that's really fanon...

BE CONVERTED TO SIGLIO!!!!! Repost from the Fanfic Thread. :3

Spoiler for Preview:

I have remembered everything.

My memories... my past as a Belkan Knight, the voids of previous Meisters of the Tome...the suffering wrought from the Tome, everything...even the ones before my past.

I see...so that is what had happened...

Elio-kun...

~~~

Standing amidst a blaze of fiery flames, the mysterious assailant appeared from within the burning air, holding a sword in one hand and Caro, unconscious in the other...

As the blurs of the motion clear, as the fleeting spurs of the air stable... it was clear...

It was Signum.

~~~

"What is the meaning of this!? Signum! Answer me!" Fate shouted, her face diswrought from confusion and question, seeing her very own 2nd in command in an act that can be considered a betrayal to everything.

Signum...the least likely person, the one no one would remotely doubt, was betraying everything she stood and fought for.

"Testarossa...no...Fate-san. I have not betrayed anyone."

~~~

"You've improved, Elio-..." Signum spoke, her face silent, unwavering, despite dropping her blade with Strada milimeters away from her face.

"What is the meaning of this...Signum-san? Why? Why are you doing this?"

Elio was no different from Fate...He was Signum's direct subordinate. Signum was someone Elio...no, everyone who was in the RF6 respected and looked up to.

"You wouldn't understand even if I told you...Elio-kun."

Her eyes was sad. But it was not of defeat, it was not of dishonor...it was because of Elio's words.

Why? Why? No one understood. But she knew...Signum knew what her choices would lead her to.

~~~

"Elio-kun...goodbye."

Signum leapt away as she fell into the dimensional abyss. A vortex of instable dimensional time-space tear...

"Signum-san!!!!!!!!!!"

~~~

Elio...kun.

I wanted to tell you.

I wanted to tell you...that I was your Caro.

I want you to call me like you always did...hold me, to love me...

I wanted you to know.

But I couldn't.

That is why...I must say my goodbye.

Elio..kun...

~~~

Oh, I want to thank Aaron and Kha for their comments on this repost earlier. :9

I said it once and I'll say it again. The idea is so sick it's COOL!

Originally Posted by Saint X

- Kyla, check. Ruri, check. so that leaves, Minerva, Chacha, CC, and Andrei

- Tannhauser... not the fleur- that for the 'Tantra' class ships the bureau has- the Asura's sisters.

*shudders at the prospect of CC going berserk*

Originally Posted by Keroko

Do you honestly want to try and stop Hayate when she's in that mood?

Anybody's opinion becomes irrelevant once she goes to 'that' mood.

Tendou Souji? *looks up* Well what do you know, accidental reference.

It was a nice touch, anyway.

Yes, Keroko likes meat. She can be picky where vegetables are concerned, but there is hardly any type of meat she doesn't like.

*notes again* Her personalization is getting better and better.

Better brace yourself for the next chapter then, I'm not surprised if I accidentally end up typing Kyon a couple of times.

As to why Chrono and the others are watching.... A better way to put the question would by why is Chrono watching with the others, because we all know the reason why the Wolkies are watching.

Now it wouldn't be a hidden camera if Nanoha knew about it, would it?

Shari's Home Videos?

Originally Posted by Kha

o_0 Wow that was a surprise... How many more permutations are there? I see Hayate falling in love with Acous when it works like a love potion, and Kaempfer turning into a frog for the sheer WTF factor.

!!!! Which reminds me! Nightengale! Are you still going through with the HayateXAcous little-sister-note-related-at-all-going-OOC-moe fic?

[KBTKaiser]

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

Cool. And I see what you mean by lack of inspiration for the 2nd part. That song is twice as long as anime openings.

That's not quite the whole song either. The full song has another whole minute on top of what they have. They pulled 1st verse, 2nd verse, 2nd half of final refrain, cutting out the instrumental and the 1st half of the final refrain, which is part of the 1st verse and then refrain of the 2nd verse.

[Aaron008R]

Originally Posted by KBTKaiser

That's not quite the whole song either. The full song has another whole minute on top of what they have. They pulled 1st verse, 2nd verse, 2nd half of final refrain, cutting out the instrumental and the 1st half of the final refrain, which is part of the 1st verse and then refrain of the 2nd verse.

AMV base material then?!
These are the kinds of songs that you can use to fit every OC here in the thread without rushing much.

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

!!!! Which reminds me! Nightengale! Are you still going through with the HayateXAcous little-sister-note-related-at-all-going-OOC-moe fic?

Well...yes, but life's been kinda rough. And I'm mildly busy with my Saga story anyway... If everything goes very well, Saga's story will be over by the end of this week...so we'll see where the ZnT parody goes.

My Saga Story was originally supposed to be a mere 2000 word summary...now it turned into a semi-official fic... so any delays on my other multiple projects like Beyond Beginnings, Hayate-Acous raburabu story, Graham Chronicles one-shots, my epic GSD-fic in planning for the past year can't be helped, so they're all in the waiting list.

I've come this far, I might as well end it as quickly as I can.

[Kha]

Just reposting from the FF.net thread something I got from watching the live action Initial D movie by Jay Chou, and Lucky Star:

Spoiler for Preview for "OC StrikerS SS in Kagami magazine" XD:

Two vehicles tore down the swerving hillside highway of Rakion Valley, one bluish-silver, one jet black.

Kha: (glances rear view mirror and see Fate in the black Testarossa) Trying to pressure me? We'll see who breaks first.

Shifts gear up and floored the accelerator, putting some distance between both vehicles.

Fate: (face in shadow, Initial D style) The key point... is the 4th hairpin curve!

No one braked as that "Widowmaker" turn approached. Kha reacted first; gear down, spin wheel, jam gas. Fate smirked and did the same, but returning the steering just the little bit more to the right. Canberra and Testarossa went into a deut of perfect spin, screaming glorious around the corner, bumpers a mere inch from scratched paintwork. However, the better driver was evident; the black racer's drift was even narrower than the silver one; and for the final straight run Testarossa was in the lead.

Hums "Piao Yi" by Jay Chou.

[LoweGear]

Originally Posted by Keroko

Yes, Keroko likes meat. She can be picky where vegetables are concerned, but there is hardly any type of meat she doesn't like.

Must.... not.... smirk... *distorts face*

Originally Posted by Keroko

The Necron thing was something that spun horrible out of control, as I can remember that it was actually meant to be nothing more then a reference.

But what do you mean by open enough? I mean, there will always be people who never heard of the source.

I added that reference for Glock's weapon... Kha expanded on it, and the rest is history

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

!!!! Which reminds me! Nightengale! Are you still going through with the HayateXAcous little-sister-note-related-at-all-going-OOC-moe fic?

*brakes*

What the?!?!?!?!

Originally Posted by Aaron008R

AMV base material then?!
These are the kinds of songs that you can use to fit every OC here in the thread without rushing much.

If you want a song that can fit every OC here without rushing much...

Sound the Gong!

Originally Posted by Kha

Just reposting from the FF.net thread something I got from watching the live action Initial D movie by Jay Chou, and Lucky Star:

Spoiler for Preview for "OC StrikerS SS in Kagami magazine" XD:

Two vehicles tore down the swerving hillside highway of Rakion Valley, one bluish-silver, one jet black.

Kha: (glances rear view mirror and see Fate in the black Testarossa) Trying to pressure me? We'll see who breaks first.

Shifts gear up and floored the accelerator, putting some distance between both vehicles.

Fate: (face in shadow, Initial D style) The key point... is the 4th hairpin curve!

No one braked as that "Widowmaker" turn approached. Kha reacted first; gear down, spin wheel, jam gas. Fate smirked and did the same, but returning the steering just the little bit more to the right. Canberra and Testarossa went into a deut of perfect spin, screaming glorious around the corner, bumpers a mere inch from scratched paintwork. However, the better driver was evident; the black racer's drift was even narrower than the silver one; and for the final straight run Testarossa was in the lead.

Hums "Piao Yi" by Jay Chou.

Fate T. Haraown, Terror of the Mountain Passes

[Aaron008R]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Well...yes, but life's been kinda rough. And I'm mildly busy with my Saga story anyway... If everything goes very well, Saga's story will be over by the end of this week...so we'll see where the ZnT parody goes.

My Saga Story was originally supposed to be a mere 2000 word summary...now it turned into a semi-official fic... so any delays on my other multiple projects like Beyond Beginnings, Hayate-Acous raburabu story, Graham Chronicles one-shots, my epic GSD-fic in planning for the past year can't be helped, so they're all in the waiting list.

I've come this far, I might as well end it as quickly as I can.

I see. I can definitely wait. What's important is that the idea is not discarded. Thanks.

Originally Posted by LoweGear

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*brakes*

What the?!?!?!?!

If you want a song that can fit every OC here without rushing much...

Sound the Gong!

OR

Show your SKILL!



These'll get Kha (or anyone else for that matter) boiling with HOT BLOOD!