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Spyda · 2011-09-21, 23:38

While after watching Dragon Ball Z kai I've come to realize just how.... average DBZ really was. It still holds a special place as my intro into the world of anime. While compared to the rest of the anime universe it may not really stack up, it was a amazing show with comedy, drama, realistic looking and acting characters (to a point), violence, and yes filler.

No it's no FMA or Claymore... But it had everything a good show needs. And it along with Pokemon (the game) are responsible (in my mind) for the sudden spike in awareness and interest in all things Japanese.

DBZ Kai is a knockoff. However, if it is your first time watching the series, it actually may be better especially for younger viewers. Less filler, less drama, more punching and screaming. (and more censorship too)

Crimrui · 2011-09-26, 05:33

Guess I'm one of the few people that actually didn't mind DBZ's fillers and without them the new refreshed series looked a bit empty. Of course, I myself don't include all the dragging when they look each other for five minutes. Don't really want to get into discussions regarding what might happen and what could never happen in the fillers, I'll just say that I enjoyed them starting from Pendulum Room Peril to episode where Goku and Piccolo were trying to get a driving license. Liked those moments and kinda missed them here but I guess plenty of people were feeling that it was a good riddance.

That aside, I enjoyed Kai, or rather re-edited & refreshed Z. The opening was a nice touch and the series stopped at the right time, for me. Not a fan of Buu saga nor it's fights, that includes the Goten and Trunks and all the Saiyan sausage fest. Sure, there is SSJ3 beuty and #18 making appearance again, but watching it once was enough. That arc simply wasn't thrilling and fun as the previous ones. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't mind watching it again in the Kai version, or some other goodness in the future.

Newer fans will appreciate Kai more, but I'll say that I favor them both equally, with a little thumb up more towards Z. One slower and one faster version for whenever time you feel like watching.

DarkRape · 2011-10-08, 22:49

I am not very attached to Kai as I was the original. I liked all the fillers, especially the ones on Namek with Bulma. I don't know why, but the cut back to the original fill makes it seem boring. It would've made better sense had they stopped at the end of the Freiza saga at least instead of entering Cell as well. I'm not fairly attached to the old footage either. I would've preferred had they redone everything in the footage to the new length instead of adding a brand new intro to old footage, new effects, and some new animation. It made it look horrible.

But that's just my opinion overall.

kenjiharima · 2011-11-24, 19:39

Poseable figures Dragon Ball by Bandai

Note: Vegeta and Trunks non-SSJ hair are exclusives. #AreYouSeriousBro?
Those saiyan royalties really.... =/

Blaat · 2012-11-07, 08:19

Necroing the thread for some good news.

Dextro · 2012-11-07, 12:28

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Originally Posted by Blaat

Necroing the thread for some good news.

What? Does that mean that we'll actually get the Buu Saga?

Alchemist007 · 2012-11-08, 19:17

Would be nice.

Blackbeard D. Kuma · 2012-11-10, 12:46

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Originally Posted by Dextro

What? Does that mean that we'll actually get the Buu Saga?

That's right, my friend. I'm super-stoked for this, because the only thing that really bugged me about Kai was that it was incomplete. Now, we'll get to enjoy the Z portion of the story in its entirety. It's a great time to be a Dragon Ball fan, what with the new film slated for release next year and this announcement now.

sky black swordman · 2012-11-10, 18:05

^ Well I thought that Kai ended with the Cell saga because that was the way the author had originally had intended to end it, with Gohan defeating Cell and succeeding Goku and becoming the Earths new champion.

Blackbeard D. Kuma · 2012-11-11, 10:52

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Originally Posted by sky black swordman

^ Well I thought that Kai ended with the Cell saga because that was the way the author had originally had intended to end it, with Gohan defeating Cell and succeeding Goku and becoming the Earths new champion.

You heard wrong. That's a misconception many fans have all because of a rumor that spread across the internet. Toriyama never said he originally intended to end the series with Cell. That's unsubstantiated and there's nothing to prove it.

Alchemist007 · 2012-11-11, 14:09

I only learned about it today but there's a new movie coming out:
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dra...82013_movie%29

Spoiler for poster:

I think I'm the last to find out actually

Blackbeard D. Kuma · 2012-11-11, 15:03

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Originally Posted by Alchemist007

I only learned about it today but there's a new movie coming out:

I think I'm the last to find out actually

I think you are. Where have you been

? Joking aside, a lot of people don't like the design of the villain in this movie, but I find it to be refreshing. This villain definitely stands out from the rest of Toriyama's creations.

bumbayker · 2012-11-17, 02:50

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Originally Posted by Blackbeard D. Kuma

You heard wrong. That's a misconception many fans have all because of a rumor that spread across the internet. Toriyama never said he originally intended to end the series with Cell. That's unsubstantiated and there's nothing to prove it.

There may be no proof of it but it sure appeared that the Cell arc was the end of the manga for a time. Unlike the other major arcs (Saiyan Saga and Freeza) which still had a continuing story after their respective stories ended the Cell arc pretty much ended at volume 36 of tankouban.

Personally I think Toriyama wanted to end it as early as Freeza. But his editors kept pushing him to continue it since it was raking a lot of money for Jump. The Buu Saga was arguably the least interesting arc in Dragonball Z since it hardly offered anything new. Toriyama didn't seem to put as much effort with the art and story at that point.

Samari · 2013-01-26, 07:52

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Originally Posted by Blackbeard D. Kuma

I think you are. Where have you been

? Joking aside, a lot of people don't like the design of the villain in this movie, but I find it to be refreshing. This villain definitely stands out from the rest of Toriyama's creations.

It might look new and refreshing, but it does seem kind of like a ridiculous design. At least to me. I was expecting something a little more menacing and badass.

Vicious108 · 2013-01-26, 09:18

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Originally Posted by Samari

It might look new and refreshing, but it does seem kind of like a ridiculous design. At least to me. I was expecting something a little more menacing and badass.

Toriyama's prior villains included an effeminate midget with purple lipstick, a green walking cockroach, and a dickheaded pink blob. Conventionally badass is not his thing.

Alchemist007 · 2013-01-26, 14:33

Hey, Cell was a cicada!

sky black swordman · 2013-01-26, 17:38

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Originally Posted by Vicious108

Toriyama's prior villains included an effeminate midget with purple lipstick, a green walking cockroach, and a dickheaded pink blob. Conventionally badass is not his thing.

What about Vegata and Piccolo, they were original villains before turning good?

Shyni · 2013-01-27, 10:31

Vegeta was a bit of a midget when he was a villain, though. So, less badass-looking compared to later on.

kenjiharima · 2013-01-31, 03:21

YouTube

https://youtu.be/hK0OuAohf8I

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Goty · 2014-04-06, 09:26

This should be back to "current series', right?

2011-09-26, 05:33	Link #3282
Crimrui Hollow Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mecha cockpit	Guess I'm one of the few people that actually didn't mind DBZ's fillers and without them the new refreshed series looked a bit empty. Of course, I myself don't include all the dragging when they look each other for five minutes. Don't really want to get into discussions regarding what might happen and what could never happen in the fillers, I'll just say that I enjoyed them starting from Pendulum Room Peril to episode where Goku and Piccolo were trying to get a driving license. Liked those moments and kinda missed them here but I guess plenty of people were feeling that it was a good riddance. That aside, I enjoyed Kai, or rather re-edited & refreshed Z. The opening was a nice touch and the series stopped at the right time, for me. Not a fan of Buu saga nor it's fights, that includes the Goten and Trunks and all the Saiyan sausage fest. Sure, there is SSJ3 beuty and #18 making appearance again, but watching it once was enough. That arc simply wasn't thrilling and fun as the previous ones. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't mind watching it again in the Kai version, or some other goodness in the future. Newer fans will appreciate Kai more, but I'll say that I favor them both equally, with a little thumb up more towards Z. One slower and one faster version for whenever time you feel like watching. __________________

2011-11-24, 19:39	Link #3284
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	Poseable figures Dragon Ball by Bandai Note: Vegeta and Trunks non-SSJ hair are exclusives. #AreYouSeriousBro? Those saiyan royalties really.... =/ __________________ Vampire+Sisters

2012-11-07, 08:19	Link #3285
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2012-11-10, 18:05	Link #3289
sky black swordman Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: California	^ Well I thought that Kai ended with the Cell saga because that was the way the author had originally had intended to end it, with Gohan defeating Cell and succeeding Goku and becoming the Earths new champion. __________________

2011-09-21, 23:38	Link #3281
Spyda Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2011	While after watching Dragon Ball Z kai I've come to realize just how.... average DBZ really was. It still holds a special place as my intro into the world of anime. While compared to the rest of the anime universe it may not really stack up, it was a amazing show with comedy, drama, realistic looking and acting characters (to a point), violence, and yes filler. No it's no FMA or Claymore... But it had everything a good show needs. And it along with Pokemon (the game) are responsible (in my mind) for the sudden spike in awareness and interest in all things Japanese. DBZ Kai is a knockoff. However, if it is your first time watching the series, it actually may be better especially for younger viewers. Less filler, less drama, more punching and screaming. (and more censorship too)

2011-10-08, 22:49	Link #3283
DarkRape I am a God. Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: U.S.A. Age: 35	I am not very attached to Kai as I was the original. I liked all the fillers, especially the ones on Namek with Bulma. I don't know why, but the cut back to the original fill makes it seem boring. It would've made better sense had they stopped at the end of the Freiza saga at least instead of entering Cell as well. I'm not fairly attached to the old footage either. I would've preferred had they redone everything in the footage to the new length instead of adding a brand new intro to old footage, new effects, and some new animation. It made it look horrible. But that's just my opinion overall.

2012-11-11, 14:09	Link #3291
Alchemist007 Senior Member Author Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA	I only learned about it today but there's a new movie coming out: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dra...82013_movie%29 Spoiler for poster: I think I'm the last to find out actually __________________ Fanfics Art MyAnimeList

2013-01-26, 14:33	Link #3296
Alchemist007 Senior Member Author Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA	Hey, Cell was a cicada! __________________ Fanfics Art MyAnimeList

2013-01-27, 10:31	Link #3298
Shyni Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: nowhere	Vegeta was a bit of a midget when he was a villain, though. So, less badass-looking compared to later on.

2013-01-31, 03:21	Link #3299
kenjiharima Mizore-chan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Moe Land Age: 43	YouTube https://youtu.be/hK0OuAohf8I Sorry; dynamic content not loaded. Reload? __________________ Vampire+Sisters

2014-04-06, 09:26	Link #3300
Goty Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	This should be back to "current series', right?