2012-11-25, 07:14 | Link #1 |
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Madoka Magica - Magic, Contracts, and stuff. Yeah, stuff. Timey wimey stuff.
Just what do we know about these "contracts"? Do the anime or light novel ever explain why QB's race seems to require them, or why -- if they're so powerful, why don't they just forcibly draft girls to do their bidding? Is there an even higher power demanding QB's race to use such rules and bargains?
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2012-11-25, 09:19 | Link #2 | |
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Basically, they somehow can convert emotions into energy, which is used to counter entropy (the heat death of the universe). They seem to not force anyone because they think it's more fair and mutually beneficial to do it this way (and I don't know if they CAN force anyone). There doesn't seem to be a higher power making them/it do it. |
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2012-11-25, 13:03 | Link #3 |
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Indeed, the power of the contract comes from the girl, and so it's optimal to get the girl's consent. The more the wish comes from their deepest desires and sincere emotions, the more energy that's released in the process. Drafting a girl into making a wish they don't care about is a complete waste of a contract.
And the Incubators aren't actually magical themselves, so I highly doubt they COULD force it. They don't even know how it actually works beyond how to perform it.
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2012-11-25, 13:10 | Link #4 | |
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As per offense, I'm assuming it only refers to magical offensive abilities, as Homura's conventional ordnance managed to kill Charlotte, who Mami's attacks failed to to defeat, implying counting her arsenal, Homura has more firepower than Mami. |
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2012-11-26, 06:02 | Link #10 | |
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In fact, I'm fond of the idea that the magical power resides within the girls themselves (and hence within humanity itself), but we just don't know how to get it out yet. The Incubators have the technological capability for getting it out, but they need humans to manipulate their own magical power once its been extracted (along with the soul) and placed into a Soul Gem.
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2012-11-26, 10:37 | Link #11 |
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We got evidence of magicla girls living to their late 20s (mayeb she just stopped fighting witches at some point, we don't have that data), though the one we have evidence for eventually becomes a witch too, possibly becasue of the stress of adult life.
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2012-11-26, 11:17 | Link #12 | |
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Eventually (if possible), you die a natural death. Or, if the aging process is drastically different for Puella Magi, maybe you could go hunting more witches again and/or accept that you've lived a normal lifespan and commit suicide with a bullet through your Soul Gem. This is probably the closest to "Winning!" (in a Charlie Sheen sense ) that a Puella Magi could hope to achieve.
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2012-11-26, 17:54 | Link #13 |
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Speaking of magic residing in humanity, doesn't Madoka exhibit signs of magic before contracting?
Not only does she dream of previous timelines, but in the episode where Sayaka makes her Magical Girl debut, Madoka throws a bucket of bleach out the window, which inexplicably cracks before the bucket makes contact with the glass. Could this be a result of Madoka's enormous potential, or a sign that every human can do negligible magical effects?
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2012-11-27, 10:24 | Link #14 |
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I say no, since we have not ahd had further proof of that; I am not even sure of the previous timelines thing, as the madoka universe seems to go mostly by parallel universes and not time resets; though in the latest interview gen did not say anything specific about that, just that he had not completely fleshed it out.
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2012-11-28, 10:40 | Link #16 |
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True, though we can't say it was a dream per se as it was persistent memories from one universe to the other that got disregarded as dreams becasue of the time that they happen at. it's possible that everybody gets those "dreams" ocne homura reset, though I prefer it that it's only amdoka because of her karmic charge.
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2012-11-28, 15:33 | Link #17 |
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That's entirely semantics, Max. The point is she is remembering something that is blatantly preternatural, and is thus a sign of magic. No one else in the series exhibits these dreams anytime else, and only Madoka feels any deja vu about anything.
You still haven't explained the window thing either.
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2012-11-28, 16:29 | Link #18 |
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Knowing SHAFT, the window thing might've been an animation error...
Though Madoka does remember stuff from previous timelines. In fact, in the 4th timeline, she says "Homu" when Homura shows up at her window. This couldn't have been after Homuras transferred in, because Madoka would've contracted already, so it had to be before, at a point that'd stop her from doing so. |
2012-11-28, 17:26 | Link #19 |
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It's all very dependant how the parallel universe/system reset works, we could argue that madoka is a mahou shoujo and is already in the mahou shoujo karmic network long before homura became a mahou shoujo, so she won't be anything special magic wise.
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