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Second one is Gamers' tokuten for Nyantype. Slim poster pin-up. Sankyuu, aers. ヾ(^∇^) I'd save the top one 'cause it's clean, even if it's small. It worries me seeing Nanoha's Fortress bits in that second picture....
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2011-03-28, 08:14 | Link #1462 | |
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In the end, they tried every Plan B available and blew it; having Isis joining the fight was never part of their plan. There's nothing salvageable yet, and the situation with Touma is still uncertain. They couldn't even at least make it a bitter victory for the Hucks. Only by the graces of a very optimistic person (or by blatant nepotism) would they be able to participate in the next attempt against the Hucks - at best, one of them might be joining the next Task Force but only as an advisory role (and probably an ignored one due to this screw-up). Also, remember how the TSAB blamed Tiida Lanster and tarnished his name for his defeat and death.
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2011-03-28, 09:00 | Link #1463 |
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Hmm. I wonder how the fans would have reacted if Tsuzuki had decided to go ahead with a proper all-out War Chronicle rather than this anti-magic stuff. For all its flaws I liked TSAB Acturus War's depiction.
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2011-03-28, 10:33 | Link #1465 | |
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That Nanoha and Fate image doesn't say "Married at last!" does it? ^^" I know Danbooru's throwing a fuss about tagging it as yuri @Tiresias: Is the concept of Nanoha and co not winning that shocking? We all know that you can't thwart stage one. I have no problem with them retreating because in all likelihood, Curren's news is plot related. If they just left cuz they didn't feel like fighting anymore, or it got too boring for them, or something like that then I'd see it as Tsuzuki pulling something out of his ass to end the current battle without the heroes being completely wiped out. Surely Tsuzuki had things planned out this far and wasn't writing by the seat of his pants.
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2011-03-28, 11:00 | Link #1466 | |
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And I'd say it was about even until she showed up, and then the heroes were basically done. Nanoha and Fate were just evenly matching their respective opponents, and probably would have gone down fairly easily. Hey, even if they don't wanna fight, Curren could have just taken Hayate hostage and told them to back off or else. I'm fine with villains knowing they're not invincible, but...they kinda were in that situation. |
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2011-03-28, 11:05 | Link #1467 |
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Clearly, they had more important things to do. You keep asking why they would leave when they had the advantage, and there's your answer.
Curren said she had a look at Thoma's situation, so surely she noticed the particular people that were after him did care for him so would be unlikely to mistreat him.
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2011-03-28, 11:15 | Link #1468 |
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I could see her identifying Eclipse infectees, but other people? Nope. I don't really know why you're so willing to excuse this series that you'll make stuff up.
If this news isn't something that had to be done right that minute (and odds are it really isn't, given how easily a Huckebein can dispatch people), then I'm calling bullshit. |
2011-03-28, 11:19 | Link #1469 | |
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If this is really going to be a war story (which I'm still doubting) there will be repercussions for this failure - even a reasonable superior will at the very least tell them to stand down and *ahem* wait for further instructions since there's so many things to be rethought and reparations and refitting to be done. Unless they'll play the nepotism card and have Fate make some 'family calls' Right now, they're an embarrassment. I mean, what's next? The Eclipse can be defeated by a Mac Virus? "Was the lowest difficulty level to hard for you? Need a super easy mode?" We shall see. I'd prefer if they add a bit of fantasy - for all it's claim as a magitech story, the series seemed to be leaning heavily towards the technology side these days.
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2011-03-28, 11:33 | Link #1470 |
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I meant she'd look at the battle with Thoma and see that Nanoha was trying to talk him down as opposed to just blasting him with no remorse like a 'heartless Bureau member' might be prone to do. It's not much of a leap that seeing that might make her think "It might be all right to leave him with these people for now."
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xDDDDDD!!, ok this made my day xD!
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EDIT: And that's why i called Signum "the new Tilda Lanster" on the past thread xD. But now this can be spreaded among the entire Section Six, or the Yagami family at least xDU.
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2011-03-28, 12:15 | Link #1472 | |
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2011-03-28, 12:45 | Link #1473 |
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You mean at the moment she showed up, when Nanoha was fighting Touma and not attacking him? What's the point of having all the members dislike the Bureau if the leader can just overrule them like that?
Oh, and I think RadiantBeam was talking about say, the first battle of As. You know, a fight the heroes actually, believably escaped from with their own skill. Not an unfair comparison, considering Force desperately wants to be As point 2. (Tropes are also not good.) |
2011-03-28, 13:22 | Link #1474 |
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Or she's smart enough not to generalize every member of a group? We don't know how long Curren was around for either. We do know that she did check on that situation (she says as much), and based on all factors of the current situation she made the decision as leader to order the retreat.
So what if the heroes didn't get away with their lives because of some deperate struggle? It's not like things always have to work out that way. Sometimes they survive simply because their opponent decided to spare them because it wasn't worth their time.
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2011-03-28, 13:35 | Link #1475 |
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And sometimes they survive because the writer lacks imagination. Hell, the fact that Curren was able to get that good a grasp on the situation without being seen indicates getting Touma should have been ludicrously easy. But the plot required he go with the Bureau, so he will. That's all.
(That many styles of magic, and you can't come up with one that will hurt these guys? Come on.) |
2011-03-28, 14:02 | Link #1476 |
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Jump to conclusions any harder and you'll be breaking the roof. 'Being able to observe the situation' and 'getting Touma' are two vastly different things. You keep ignoring a ton of factors involved in getting Touma. Let's not forget, for example, that Touma will be trying to kill the Hucks as much as he's been trying to kill Nanoha.
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2011-03-28, 14:07 | Link #1477 |
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And again, the Hucks are more powerful in this situation than the Bureau forces. If Touma could do that MAP attack again, he could have. Wasn't the whole point of this to keep him from going on a rampage and killing people, anyway?
Besides, Raiser's really doing the same thing, in the opposite direction. |
2011-03-28, 14:37 | Link #1478 |
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No, the whole point of this was that Fortis was a hypocrite and didn't want to let Touma kill himself. Fortis wanted to retrieve Touma before he killed himself. Now Curren comes in and basically said 'calm down, he won't kill himself. He'll come to us later so lets just retreat like we were planning to do in the first place. I have important news to share.'
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2011-03-28, 14:38 | Link #1479 |
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Only my way has more support. I'm basing stuff on what actually happened, where as you're basing stuff on what you think should have happened. What happened, happened, so in light of that the question is why? The Huckebein left without going after Thoma or finishing Section 6 off, so there must be a reason for that.
Well, of all the things to be hypocritical about, at least he chose the one thing that results in them being seen in a better light.
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2011-03-28, 14:44 | Link #1480 |
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Unless something actually happened, it didn't. I've seen you use pretty blatant hearsay before.
Weren't you one of the guys saying that the Bureau were potentially evil here? What's stopping someone else from just confiscating Touma and doing whatever they want with him? The Hucks know it's a big organization at least. And yeah, I kinda DO wish this serious story intended for adults was better written than the one based around small children. But I guess I can't have everything I want, huh? |
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