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2008-12-19, 09:47 | Link #222 |
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Haha, no way! If you do notice, Kitamura is the only one before (and sometimes after) Ep6 that actually is conscious of what really happens around him. It seems if there's anyone in the cast who potentially has the ability to change the direction of the plot, it would be him.
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2008-12-19, 12:05 | Link #223 |
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Both of you are looking at it too superficially.
Kitamura is a smart person, he is depicted as being organised and hard working, he can plan and get things done. Kitamura is also dumb, he is dumb to people's feelings and especially his own, like many teenagers are. Both sides are part of Kitamura, it's a typical character archtype too - the high IQ person with low EQ, the imperfect perfect person so to speak (and ToraDora is all about these types of conflicting personalities), you can't have one but not the other because that breaks the character archtype.
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2008-12-19, 12:48 | Link #225 |
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Okay, but I never said Kitamura was smart. I'm saying that he has the uncanny ability to be almost aware of everything, almost like a prophet....
Anyway, back on topic, I'm a bit skeptical of Ami's sudden change in personality. Could it be that she's really resigned to being less bitchy and more empathetic, or is she plotting something to get Ryuji again? |
2008-12-19, 15:52 | Link #229 |
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Ami doesn't necessarily have anything against Ryuuji. She hasn't tried anything mean against him, maybe a trick or two but that's it. Lately in more episodes, they have been closer and there relationship has been better. Out of the main five in the series, they probably understand each other the best. (On a social level perhaps)
It's Taiga who Ami resents. Ami just doesn't like how Ryuuji defends Taiga and spends almost all of his time with her. Especially because she flipflops between satisfied and unsatisfied so often. She has really changed and her development has shown a lot of impact. She wasn't too rude to Taiga in the 12th Episode. |
2008-12-19, 17:34 | Link #232 |
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I think a lot of the appeal of Ami is just what she says in this episode, she doesn't cling to Ryuuji, she doesn't "Need" him, she simply enjoys his company which makes their relationship more dynamic and less of a plot contrivance ("I love him because he does this or that for me!" or "I love him because he saved me from the the dragon/monster!"). The relationship didn't stem from dependence, it's that they got to know each other over time.
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2008-12-19, 17:42 | Link #233 | |
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2008-12-20, 00:06 | Link #235 |
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Ohs, ~ ep 12 enjoyed some possible subtleties with Ami ~
her usual 1-1 talk with Ryuji's are always enjoyable to watch this time starting off with something on the lines of "How can you scold the girl you like?" whilst closing her eyes while saying it -> to a half opened normal expression until he says blantly "It's her fault", causing her to open her eyes, a rather surprised expression ~ of course i could simply be reading to much into it, just enjoyed the opporunity to run a little play off the simple conversation this simple change in her expression would easily could be translated to the more direct shock at how agressive, or blunt he is at the time with his words or alternatively the shock expression would be from the fact that he did not really refute not liking Kushieda, or dodge the matter as he did in the past. But by simply answering, hes practically admitting to her of what he likes (of course she already knows, but its a whole different level when one opens up and says it) -- Either way great conversation overall, i personally enjoy the small kicks (and probably make up half of them) just wondering if anyone happened to analyze her facial expressions more, considering her "masks" facades , in the previous episodes i believe i remember usualy closing her eyes when talking through her true self, or uses it as a switch when going through the modes~ who knows :3 such a enjoyable character to watch and try to figure out |
2008-12-20, 00:12 | Link #236 | |
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EDIT-ADD: OH WAIT! I think Chidori from FMP is a close comparison, though I can't think of any other examples... Probably the case here. Last time she tried to get anything out of him on Kushieda he clammed up and didn't say anything. Last edited by Voitan; 2008-12-20 at 00:47. |
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2008-12-20, 14:21 | Link #237 | ||
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A very mature way to take the fact that, the person you like, actually loves another person. I think that as you said, her romance is "not possessive, not mind-breaking, not world shattering, not smile bringing", a very realistic and mature way to see things. I fucking love this character Quote:
She is always open for a major relationship with Ryuuji, it's on his call to make that happen. She told him on Ep. 10 that Ryuuji is "too good" (that he is sooo slow thinking in love ahaha). Ami won't cry for Ryuuji's love, but if he wants to get serious, she will love him as well. |
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2008-12-20, 17:28 | Link #238 | |
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In another sense, it's also Ami removing herself from the triangle (square?). |
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2008-12-20, 17:46 | Link #239 |
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I'd say she's consciously trying to remove herself from the "battle" for Ryuji's affection. Now, I'm not so sure that she will actually succeed in doing so - as her interest in him doesn't seem to diminish, in the least.
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2008-12-20, 17:47 | Link #240 | |
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I've had this thinking in my mind for quite some time now: The only other instance I think I've ever seen Ami's type of characters was the ever oh-so-annoying local TV dramas from where I came from (self-conceited beauties); however I am glad to know that Ami is a better existence that what the describe TV drama characters were.
Like them, Ami is persistent (if I use that "persistent" word when I relate her with Ryuuji), but unlike them, Ami is actually better than the... TV drama characters which I hate almost all the time to the point that I question myself "why does this TV drama exist anyways?" - they are too arrogant, unwilling to accept defeat that they would attempt even the worst things we could think of (murder, bribery etc - LOL corporate business politics), sometimes too devious that they lack any sense of righteousness (too indulged in own selfish and sometimes dark ambitions that they commit anything that they deem plausible to their cause). In other words: I'm relieved that Ami is like how we see her right now. Quote:
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