2009-09-27, 23:08 | Link #2281 |
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I read what you wrote in the brackets, but you failed to give me enough reason why it should have been left out, when like I said, half the plot resolved around a girl who thought got dumped.
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2009-09-27, 23:12 | Link #2282 | |
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2009-09-27, 23:15 | Link #2283 | |
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So, what scenes do you suggest before it builds up to the wedding scene? Have you even played the game? The wedding scene was obviously necessary to point us viewers that Reiji choose Elen and they intended to be together till death. It was also a necessary to break out this "brother-sister" fake relationship they were playing.
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2009-09-27, 23:23 | Link #2287 | |
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I'm just stating that would be strange in the anime, since this is, the anime thread.
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2009-09-27, 23:27 | Link #2290 |
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At least, she was still useful even in her death(refers to the scene where Reiji killed one of the sisters).
Inferno will probably end up getting destroyed in over 1-2 years, having lost all their sources and top notch assassins.
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2009-09-27, 23:40 | Link #2291 |
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Cal story is she "born" with tainted hands of Reiji and by his hand she will "return" to him. Despite his grief, Reiji conscience is somewhat eased with knowledge that Cal will not go on killing and lived his erstwhile empty life during his time in Inferno. Her death is not in vain, she is free from path of no return and served as closure to Reiji's deep anguish as much as her's.
The theme of this story always revolves around there is always a consequence for any path despite who you are, Cal and anime unique Reiji's tragic last exit meant to show this. Reiji succeed in saving Elen so his "debt" to her is done. But he can't escape his past so the last bullet is his absolution for his other horrible deeds. He is free but at the cost of his life. Afterall, there is no more purpose of living for Cal and Reiji, to be honest. In VN where Cal is the focus, they both still living the path of blood in the end, becoming a modern version of Bonnie and Clyde which I don't consider as quality living. That's why I enjoyed the VN.
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2009-09-27, 23:51 | Link #2292 |
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But this anime is in the Elen game pathway so we shouldn't have to put up with an unknown assassin or cart or bullet at the end. Blah, blah, blah....
Bee Train should have screwed around with an original title and kept to the source game material for this one. I'm in the "Reiji is alive and wounded" line waving my flag for the next cart since he didn't get to see her smile yet. Another forum brought up the novels. So how did they end? A poster was thinking that the novels were a source for this ending. I hope this isn't the case since this was suppose to be a game adaptation. (Hmm... wiki says that it's only 1 volume of the manga out right now. So that idea fell thru.)
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2009-09-28, 00:09 | Link #2293 |
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AFAIK, as mentar said, the writer of VN himself penned the story for anime series. So I felt that the writer decided to give a twist in the end because he knew that many readers of VN will watch this adaptation. He did not want to copy and paste the story, I supposed.
But the ending is open for interpretation, I think Reiji is dead on plains of Mongolia while other forum people think he is wounded. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.
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2009-09-28, 00:20 | Link #2295 | ||
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2009-09-28, 00:20 | Link #2296 | |
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Cal and Ein reflected 2 different philosophy of gunfighting, Cal is very flashy and used shitloads of firepower; Ein is precise and decisive. Even their weapons reflected their thinking.
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2009-09-28, 00:25 | Link #2297 | |
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KyoAni had to assure a lot of fans with Kanon's adaptation IIRC. You'd think they (Bee Train/Nitroplus) would have remembered.
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2009-09-28, 00:29 | Link #2298 | |
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It wouldn't be the first nor the last time that an author could be much more flexible than the fans of his work. |
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2009-09-28, 00:33 | Link #2299 | |
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Urobuchi wrote three episodes: 6, 18, and 25. Lead writer and story planner was Yousuke Kuroda, who penned Madlax and Gundam 00. However, Urobuchi's participation does suggest that he approved whatever Mashimo and Kuroda proposed.
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2009-09-28, 00:34 | Link #2300 | |
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He was prob thinking about the exposure and not the backlash.
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