2016-05-30, 10:22 | Link #1 |
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Am i just the only one who hate female archetypes personality ?
Seriously am i just the only one who hate female protagonist with tsundere , yandere , dandere and kuudere ? I mean what people like from female with tsundere , yandere , dandere and kuudere ?
Also why female protagonist with tsundere , yandere , dandere and kuudere is so popular than a female protagonist who acting normal personality ? Are female protagonist archetypes personality is really special compare to female protagonist without archetypes personality ? Note: archetypes is tsundere , yandere , dandere and kuudere . |
2016-05-31, 00:09 | Link #5 |
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I feel like there are plenty of female characters that have "normal" personalities, but they just don't stand out as much because they're... normal. Given that these particular archetypes annoy you so much, they probably stick out more when they occur. Plus, even within these archetypes, there are varying degrees.
If you're exposing yourself to too many shows that are defined by extreme stereotypes, may need to broaden your horizons.
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I like a lot of characters people describe as danderes as well but I would question if they are really danderes - I see the term as applying to a narrower range of characters than many. Yanderes are pretty hit and miss for me. I would also note that years ago I had trouble grasping the appeal of tsundere characters. Then I got exposed to a few very well executed tsunderes, which I liked, and afterwards I started to like an increasingly broad range of them.
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2016-05-31, 03:12 | Link #7 |
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Definitely need to broaden your horizons. Both with fictional girls and real girls. Supposedly I can be pretty tsundere about things, and I'm obviously not an anime character, though I am a girl. There's plenty of girls in anime that don't have extreme personalities, and plenty of girls in real life who have extreme personalities. Although, I will say that I completely do not understand the appeal of yandere characters... Then again, I once knew a guy who had been stalked by a girl for years and his reaction to it was, "it was kind of nice." People are weird, and that's probably the answer to your question.
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2016-05-31, 04:16 | Link #8 |
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I like Kuudere a lot and Dandere to a degree. And I cannot stand Tsundere and especially Yandere.
Never stooped me from enjoying an anime. Btw, if you expect girls and characters in anime to behave more like normal persons then why are you even watching them? |
2016-05-31, 04:44 | Link #9 |
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Please name these female yandere protagonists that plague anime so much, because I don't really see many. Actually, up to now I haven't seen a single one, although I do know some female yandere *heroines*.
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2016-05-31, 06:24 | Link #10 | |
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Whatever the case, it's clear to me he's just sick of seeing these types of characters in prominent roles.
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2016-05-31, 07:08 | Link #11 | |
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2016-05-31, 07:20 | Link #12 | |
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Wasn't even that interested with kuroneko until I read some lovely doujins. Also, Katou Megumi is a goddess
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2016-05-31, 09:22 | Link #13 | ||||
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Yandere - An all-consuming love that won't take no for an answer or let anything come between them. An obsessively doting personality which nonetheless possesses a reserve of menacing strength. An exciting experience where pleasure is merely a knife's breadth from pain and suffering. Dandere - Identifying with a shy character that reflects the viewer's inner desire to be gregarious in a comfortable situation. The desire to protect a shy person who is frightened of interpersonal interactions. The special feeling that comes from being in on them opening up to a select individual or group of individuals. Kuudere - Essentiallly the same as Tsundere, only minus the slapstic comedy and empathetic schadenfreude. I LOVE Tsundere, like Kuudere, am good with a mild level of Yandere and don't particularly care either way about Dandere. Quote:
Further, the world is full of "normal" girls. There's no need for anime to fantasize about them. Folks watching anime romance are most likely for something a little less normal. Finally, I'd argue that in their own way, all the "-dere" archetypes are more realistic than the "normal" girls portrayed in anime, who are rarely angry, behave badly, or engage in quirky behavior. In being flawed, they are more human, and in being more human, the viewer becomes more emotionally invested in them. In short: They're more exciting, more realistic, and more engaging than "normal" characters. Quote:
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2016-05-31, 15:41 | Link #14 | |
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In Oreimo's case, I honestly thought the few characters that played a limited role were better off that way.
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2016-05-31, 18:55 | Link #15 |
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That's generally what I assume too, and judging by the string of barely comprehensible babble that is the OP post I'm also assuming they're not putting much thought into elaborating on the issue they have. But if they can prove me wrong on those assumptions it would be really cool, so I'm testing them.
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2016-05-31, 21:53 | Link #16 |
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There's plenty of "normal girls" in anime, it's just that they're harder to find in certain anime (sub)genres than others.
If your anime diet is all battle shounen, LN adaptations, and harem romcoms? Yeah, you're going to be eating a very steady diet of deres, especially tsunderes. Want more variety in female characters, and more female characters with normal-seeming personalities? You might want to try some mecha anime. You might want to try some mahou shoujo or idol anime. Or any version of all-girls anime, really. Not saying that these are completely free of the deres, because they definitely aren't, but these do tend to have a wide range of female character personalities. Now, if you absolutely want an anime show where the lead character is a male character, and the female lead is a "normal girl", then that can be tricky to find. Here are some recommendations for that: Clannad Valvrave the Liberator (main girl is somewhat eccentric, but normal enough) Gundam Seed (if "nearly perfect girl" = "normal girl" ) The Pilot's Love Song Re:Zero My Hero Academia Macross Delta (same deal as Valvrave) Gurren Lagann (romance isn't central here though) True Tears (Noe's not normal, but she's not one of the deres either; Hiromi is pretty normal) Note that about half of these shows are mecha shows. Want an anime where the lead character is a male character and the female characters are (relatively) normal? Mecha may well be the way to go!
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2016-06-02, 02:00 | Link #17 |
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I don't mind them if done right, they normally are my least favorite of the Heronies kinds. For example, I used to hate Nami from One Piece at the beginning due to that type of personality but she cooled down over the years since.
If you want a girl that's normal but has this type of personality, try Gintama. You'll find a certain blond female character who fits this but in my opinion she was done very well and is in my top list of favorite Gintama characters actually.
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