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solomon · 2009-04-18, 01:24

anybody know what kinda numbers it got?

teelotes · 2009-04-18, 01:58

I'm glad Saki has made an advancement in her love life on Valentine's Day

teelotes · 2009-04-18, 02:00

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Originally Posted by Azure_Peregrine

Nah, but a friend of mine pointed out that her loading sign is a quarter rest in written music. Speaking of which, those are musical notes in the background on her screen, aren't they? Maybe she's an aspiring musician.

Probably something to do with the interview?

Claies · 2009-04-18, 03:25

I'd love to see how two Selecao users fight. A few possible ideas on crazy revelations:

1) There were two factions of Selecao users of opposing ideologies in conflict, causing the 11 well-timed, deathless missile strikes. Specifically, Akira made a string of weird moves with 20,000 NEETs to confuse the enemy faction into traps (or Juiz herself made the moves as a means according to a vaguer order from Akira).

2) Saki is in the Selecao system. Akira was supposed to kill her (possibly for being in the opposing faction), but they were in love, and decided to buy brainwashing programs to start over. (Yeah, right)

3) Akira brainwashed Saki and sent her and her friends on a trip to New York, thus allowing him to start over after a massacre of several other Selecao.

4) Akira was one of these 20,000 NEETs. Another Selecao user (Saki?) bestowed him his/her phone and gave him the instructions: Find armory in D.C., bring revolver to the White House, strip naked, and use the phone when it rings.

5) Saki's friends, the whole freaking car of them, are in the Selecao system. (Although that would cheapen the series somewhat)

A few things I have problems fitting in:
- Akira had this revolver in the beginning that he threw away right after he met Saki. In the guesses above, Akira has no reason to carry a revolver and undress in front of the White House.

- Secondly, I don't know how powerful the phones are, but it looks like Kondo IV can see all transactions. He would have known what's happening. Maybe the transaction history is wiped when the phone is passed on, which supports #4 a little bit.

And a few things to consider:
- They can get secondary phones, so that their actions aren't tracked.

- Must they not transfer their funds to cash?

Fevvers · 2009-04-18, 04:11

Glad to know episode 2 continues to impress. I am especially loving the interactions between the characters; it's realistic in a sense that, they (Akira and Saki) are two people you can almost imagine anywhere in the real world, barring the odd circumstance Akira got himself into, of course. Budding romance aside, they act like normal teenagers without the usual need to dramatize or stereotype their dynamics compared to other romance anime; if this were some other anime for instance, Saki would have bludgeoned Akira to death when he showed up naked that first meeting. I thought Akira's snapping his fingers to get Saki to explain faster as particularly revealing with the comforting air and natural banter developed between those two.

Honestly, if the level of quality this series demonstrate continues until the end, I'd be more than ecstatic. Nothing else this season has impressed me as much anyway, aside from Sengoku and Basquash, if only for their stupid fun.

Statonxyb · 2009-04-18, 04:36

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Glad to know episode 2 continues to impress. I am especially loving the interactions between the characters; it's realistic in a sense that, they (Akira and Saki) are two people you can almost imagine anywhere in the real world, barring the odd circumstance Akira got himself into, of course. Budding romance aside, they act like normal teenagers without the usual need to dramatize or stereotype their dynamics compared to other romance anime; if this were some other anime for instance, Saki would have bludgeoned Akira to death when he showed up naked that first meeting. I thought Akira's snapping his fingers to get Saki to explain faster as particularly revealing with the comforting air and natural banter developed between those two.

Yeah, this part struck me well, too. Every little thing about the series is well done, something I (to be quite honest) have not seen before.

On a side note: Aren't they both in their early twenties? Teenagers wouldn't exactly fit them. :b

izmosmolnar · 2009-04-18, 05:43

Well don't take it the wrong way, but to be perfectly blunt, I found the interaction between the two a bit awkward.
They flew from Washington DC back to Japan which is about ~16-18 hour flight (do note they sat by each other), and they supposedly talked with each other so little that he didn't even told her he suffers from amnesia O.o (plus they spent several other hours before and after that anyway). They were completely silent the whole flight or what? Or I guess it's explainable that they slept 8-8 hours each, while the other was awake, but that's sounds a bit against human nature in my honest opinion.

I mean they are indeed nice and they look alright with each other, but I've found that point a bit unbelievable. I've actually presumed he should have already told her he don't remember anything so I was a bit surprised when I see he actually tells her that in the middle of ep2 in Tokyo airport. Otherwise what they could have been doing offscreen? Obviously not talking about movies, Careless monday, or any personal stuff either.
Edit I didn't meant to be finicky though, I love the series so far

Katapan · 2009-04-18, 06:00

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Originally Posted by solomon

anybody know what kinda numbers it got?

Animation Program and Movie Average Television Household Audience Ratings in the Kantou Region of Japan (Tokyo, Yokohama, Kawasaki, Saitama, Chiba, etc.)

*3.2% (*4.8%) 04/16 (Thu) 24:45-25:15 Fuji TV Higashi no Eden (Eden of the East)

Slightly disappointing... though at least the episode itself wasn't.

I was really expecting a high number, so it should be interesting to see where it goes from here.

wao · 2009-04-18, 08:12

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Damn. I still admire this series more than really like it. It looks fantastic (even if Saki looks like she was ripped from the pages of a shoujo manga and plopped into an I.G. extravaganza) and it's doing a masterful job spinning a series of mysteries. But I don't really feel anything - I don't laugh, and I don't see any reason to care about any of the characters yet. Maybe it's just not compatible with my wiring.

Also - Akira and Saki smile too much. It's disconcerting.

I just got around to watching the first 2 episodes, and while it was fun I have to say I kinda agreed with your posts... is there something wrong with either of us?

Spoiler for incredibly long and wet-blanket-ish:

Maybe it's just my mood or some silly thing like that, but so far I'm not really convinced that it's all that great.
So what if they tossed in a lot of things Americans could relate to... I'm not convinced on some bits based on my limited knowledge (black policewoman's treatment of East Asian foreigners, and the glaring lack of international rights-trampling security, surely one of the biggest actual social impacts of this whole terrorism crap)

I'll readily concur that they've done better than the average anime - they could definitely afford to make it far worse, and things like Akira's snapping to get Saki to hurry up were definitely great. Yet I can't help but feel that it's trying not to be a typical anime, and in the process making it more obvious instead.

I know it sounds like they're damned if they do/don't, but I guess I don't see what's the big deal about the storyline. Yay terrorism and english and 9/11, but I don't feel like it's really captured the actual atmosphere of real-life events (yet) and the whole premise is so very anime IMHO. I'm more than willing to suspend disbelief just like with any fictional work, but the fact that they seem to be trying so hard to make it believable makes it sort of jarring. In my head, anyway.

It's just... argh, more sekrit organisations with that whole so-secret-we're-so-cool kind of thing going on and the silly phones... I kinda hope we get to see something a little grittier than that but I wouldn't hold out for it.
And Saki just feels kind of transplanted to me, as Guardian Enzo says. Maybe I'm just transplanting my own expectations here, of course, but I'dve thought she'd be more embarrassed/self-conscious about being in that special van thing when EVERYONE is looking at her (to the extent that she'd have declined getting on it in the first place); and not being more surprised at Akira's lack of memory. And then the smiling... I'm willing to wait on that one and see what Akira's "natural" personality is like a little more, but ummm. I'm not convinced just yet. I liked the snapping thing, but extending your arm with a perfect smile against the sunset? Oh well, I guess when they look liek Morita all that goes out of the window and it's a long line of *_*. It's only 2 episodes in, anyway.

Maybe this just isn't my kind of thing anymore, and I am just getting old and fuddy-duddy and stupid

One thing for sure though, if this was one of them stereotypical manly manga adaptation sort of things there'd DEFINITELY be a deep voiceover describing the legendary Chosen Ones and whatever, being utterly opaque about the whole thing... I'm glad we're not bringing that back in for a modern setting, letting things explain themselves instead.
And that's why I'll keep watching, just because I want to see what happens, silly handphones be damned.

I'm entirely willing to give it the benefit of the doubt, though, since it's only 11 episodes, and will certainly eat my words if it turns out to be really that awesome.

And it sure beats the everloving hell out of most recent things.

neogeo1990 · 2009-04-18, 09:56

Around 1.5 million yen to hire/bribe someone (police?) kill those 2 (or 3?) men... rather cheap isn't it? XD

And about IV going after IX... think he wants to kill him off and take his phone "I'll be taking your duty", after all he only has 7,000 so yen and then his duty would be finished?

Maybe the supporter will kill him off soon for abusing his powers? But then if there is only one supporter within the 12 selecaos then couldn't the supporter just kill the other 11 all off? Thinking about this... I'm thinking that the supporter gets to only kill one selecao and then he/she must transfer his/her powers which then the position would be allocated by Juiz presumably.

Starry Dust · 2009-04-18, 10:06

So last night had me thinking...

Spoiler for Some speculations & questions:

Kinny Riddle · 2009-04-18, 10:11

This is getting interesting. People with unique mobile phones, able to give commands that allows them to achieve anything they wish for.

It probably comes with the price of which we know nothing about, but probably has something to do with the French slogan Juiz uses: Noblesse Oblige.
http://www.answers.com/topic/noblesse-oblige

A comment on a minor error by gg fansubs, when one of the debtors came to claim money from Kondo, he said Kondo owes him 20 million (2千万), but gg's subs say 2 million.

Saki finds herself irresistibly intrigued by the mysterious young man Akira, and despite not knowing anything about him, decides to take up his offer to "jump ship" with him, literally. Though this jumping of ship may begin an exciting adventure for her, and for us as well.

Nonsensical for the lolz speculation:
I think not only has 20,000 NEET been kidnapped, but one of their Meccas, the Tokyo Big Sight, is probably one of the places hit by the missile attack since the Big Sight is very near Toyosu. Rainbow Bridge can be seen in the background, so I can't be wrong, since I've been to the Big Sight, which is nearby.

Saki's mobile phone map shows the missile having hit somewhere south east of Toyosu, which would be somewhere around the Ariake area. I wouldn't be surprised if Akihabara got nuked as well.

Guardian Enzo · 2009-04-18, 10:19

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Originally Posted by wao

I just got around to watching the first 2 episodes, and while it was fun I have to say I kinda agreed with your posts... is there something wrong with either of us?

Well, it's nice to know I'm not completely alone in this. It's not an easy position to be in, really. You want to tell yourself "The kool-aid looks delicious. It's just sweet, fruity kool-aid - drink it!"

Kinny Riddle · 2009-04-18, 10:25

Speaking of which, is this the first time an anime series ever make reference to 9/11?

Though Akira or Saki (I forgot who exactly) were a bit off when they said no movie had yet been made about that. There's the one with Nicholas Cage, and another one about UA93 which crashed in Pennsylvania, directed by Paul Greengrass, who is also the director for the second and third of the Jason Bourne trilogy, which Akira seems to be based on.

qmeister · 2009-04-18, 10:29

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Originally Posted by Kinny Riddle

Speaking of which, is this the first time an anime series ever make reference to 9/11?

Though Akira or Saki (I forgot who exactly) were a bit off when they said no movie had yet been made about that. There's the one with Nicholas Cage, and another one about UA93 which crashed in Pennsylvania, directed by Paul Greengrass, who is also the director for the second and third of the Jason Bourne trilogy, which Akira seems to be based on.

I thought they were talking about the Freedom Tower, not 9/11, when they said no movies had been made about it...

Guardian Enzo · 2009-04-18, 10:36

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Originally Posted by qmeister

I thought they were talking about the Freedom Tower, not 9/11, when they said no movies had been made about it...

That was also my impression.

Kinny Riddle · 2009-04-18, 10:49

I see, thanks for clearing that up, guys. I must have heard wrong.

I'm feeling like going to my local HMV and grab Oasis's Dig Out Your Soul album, which contains Falling Down.

Kazu-kun · 2009-04-18, 11:11

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Originally Posted by Kinny Riddle

I'm feeling like going to my local HMV and grab Oasis's Dig Out Your Soul album, which contains Falling Down.

Or you could wait till the Japanese release of the Falling Down single (5/27), which includes a bonus DVD containing an animated music video (only in the limited edition, though).

Kinny Riddle · 2009-04-18, 11:35

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Or you could wait till the Japanese release of the Falling Down single (5/27), which includes a bonus DVD containing an animated music video (only in the limited edition, though).

Interesting.

Oasis was recently in Japan to perform in Music Station, here's them performing Falling Down.

Azure_Peregrine · 2009-04-18, 12:40

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@Azure_Peregrine -- Good point about Old Testament and kings. Although Israel did have kings like Saul and David.

Well, yeah, but even when there were great Kings of Israel, they screwed up in the end. As I recall, King David eventually set about sending a man to the front lines of a war so that he'd be killed for the sake of taking that man's wife, and, upon a quick google search, it appears Saul offered a sacrifice to God (the life of a bull or ox or somethin' like that), but only priests were allowed to make those offerings - in short, Saul sinned, and ruined his chance at establishing rule over Israel forever. Saul does more bad stuff later, such as keeping some livestock alive when God instructed him to kill everything (frankly, I'd agree with Saul on that one - the sheep didn't do anything to deserve death). Anyways, the point being that, at least in the Old Testament, nothin' good ever seems to come of monarchy. The faithful monarchs seem to do good stuff here and there, but in the end, they're still monarchs.

Shifting gears for a second: My mind is BLOWN.

It's been established that 11 and 12 are important numbers in this show. We know that 9/11 is important to the show. We know that Careless Monday occurred on November 22, or 11/22. We know that there have been 11 missile attacks. In the preview, it is stated that the show takes place over 11 days.

I'd just like to throw out there that I am not a religious nut - I'm quite the opposite. But I did a quick google search for the biblical significance of the number 11, and stumbled across a website for a Church called the Eighth Day Assembly. I think they read FAR too much into the significance of things, but, for as nutty as I think they may be, they do illuminate some interesting tidbits about the number 11, 12, and 22:
(I'm just gonna put this in spoilers since it's long)

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11 ~ Negative Meaning of the Number 11 ~ (1 + 1 = 2) ~ Jezebel, The Whore of Babylon (as the keeper, body, or witness of "strange doctrines"), also: Judgment and Disorder

Note from Eighth Day Assembly ~ There appears to be some sort of connection between the number 11 and Islamic terrorists! The Islamic terrorist attack upon this country happened on September "11." The Twin Towers visually looked like the number "11." The first airplane that exploded into the Towers was American Airlines flight "11." Several of the terrorists lived in a residence in London at an address that was the number "11." In the 1972 Munich terrorist attack at the Olympics there were "11" Israeli athletes massacred by "11" terrorists that were involved. If the number 11 is not being used deliberately by the terrorists because of the negative meaning of "judgment & disorder," it could be that God is revealing the source of who is responsible for the terrorists attacks when the number 11 is used. It is no coincidence that the name "Abaddon" (Strong's H11), the god of destruction, judgment & disorder, is revealed in Revelation 9:11, revealing who was responsible for the 9/11 attack upon the USA). It is also interesting that the Hebrew name Abaddon in Strong's Concordance is number "H11" revealing that the name is the 11th chronological word in the Old Testament!

Abaddon is the identity of al-Qaida's terrorist god of the number 11 !

The World Trade Center attack was on September 11, 2001. The Madrid, Spain train bombing was on March 11, 2004. The Mumbai (Bombay), India train bombing was on July 11, 2006 (reportedly the bombs in India went off within an 11 minute span).

The Islamic founder, Muhammad, died in the year 632 AD = 6 + 3 + 2 = 11. Supposedly he received the revelation of the Quran over a period of 22 years, which is a double 11.

Some more incidents regarding the number 11 that were found on the Internet:

* The date of the attack: 9/11 - 9 + 1 + 1 = 11
* September 11th is the 254th day of the year: 2 + 5 + 4 = 11
* After September 11th there are 111 days left to the end of the year.
* 119 is the area code to Iraq/Iran. 1 + 1 + 9 = 11
* Twin Towers - standing side by side, looks like the number 11
* The first plane to hit the towers was Flight 11
* State of New York - The 11th State added to the Union
* Ramzi Yousef - 11 Letters (convicted or orchestrating the attack at the WTC in 1993)
* Flight 11 - 92 on board - 9 + 2 = 11
* Flight 77 - 65 on board - 6 + 5 = 11

Be watchful of multiples of 11, such as 22, the double 11 ! There's a connection between the number 11 and the number 22. Although the number 22 in our Bible is a positive number, some could interpret it as a double 11, or "double judgment " !
-SNIP-
Ed. F. Vallowe, from his book, "Biblical Mathematics, Keys to Scripture Numerics, How to Count the Bible,"
© 1992, pp. 94-97........

"The number ELEVEN is associated usually with DISORDER AND JUDGMENT all through the Bible. ELEVEN is one more than TEN. Number TEN represents the law and RESPONSIBILITY. A broken Law and Responsibility always brings JUDGMENT and DISORDER. This number ELEVEN is used 24 times in the Word of God.

There were ELEVEN JUDGMENTS upon the Egyptians. Those are as follows:

1. The plague of Blood. (Ex. 7:19-21)
2. The plague of Frogs. (Ex. 8:1-7)
3. The plague of Lice. ( Ex. 8:16-17)
4. The plague of Flies. (Ex. 21-24)
5. The plague of Murrain. (Ex. 9:1-7)
6. The plague of Boils. (Ex. 9:8-11)
7. The plague of Hail. (Ex. 9:22-25)
8. The plague of Locusts. (Ex. 10:12-25)
9. The plague of Darkness. (Ex. 10-21-23)
10. The plague of First-born. (Ex. 12:29-30)
11. The overthrow at the Red Sea. (Ex. 14:24-28)
-SNIP-

12 ~ Governmental Rule of "King AND Queen" (1 + 2 = 3), the Triangle - The Mystery, Governmental Perfection by Divine Authority, also the 11 + 1 = 12 (two witnesses unified in one Christ - the "other two on one side of the bank of the river and on the other side of the bank of the river in Daniel 12:5" ?)

-SNIP-

22 ~ Manifestation of Light, (is a DOUBLE WITNESS ~ 2 WITNESSES, connected to the "11" above, as a double 11)

Evangelist Ed. F. Vallowe, from his book, "Biblical Mathematics, Keys to Scripture Numerics, How to Count the Bible,"
© 1992, pp. 138 - 139

TWENTY TWO is the number that is connected with LIGHT. There were TWENTY-TWO bowls to hold oil in the candlestick in the Tabernacle. There were THREE branches on each side of the shaft of the candlestick. Each branch had three bowls. This makes six branches, with EIGHTEEN bowls. In the candlestick itself (the shaft) were FOUR bowls. (Exodus 25:31-34) This is a total of TWENTY-TWO bowls serving the SEVEN lamps. The purpose of the candlestick with its lamps was to give light.
In Matthew 5:15-16 Jesus said,

"Neither do men light a candle and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick and it giveth Light to all in the house. Let your LIGHT so shine before men that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."

The saved are called the children of LIGHT. "Ye are all children of the LIGHT." (I Thess. 5:5) When FOURTEEN for salvation is added to EIGHT for the New Birth, the sum is TWENTY-TWO, Light.

Also, more on the number 12 from a different website:

Spoiler:

These two websites can be found here:
http://members.cox.net/8thday/meaning.html
http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/docum...0Scripture.htm

So what's this mean? Well, it first off means that the creators of this show paid a lot of attention to the timing of what happens in the show. 11/22 would be a perfect day to have disorder (11) in the form of a missile strike, but hope (light, 22) in the form of no victims. Also, let's take into account that there are 12 selecao people - but, with Juiz, that's thirteen, a number representing... not good things, and if any of the Selecao die, as we suspect they might, that brings them down to 11, which is disorder. Also, if you take the fact that apparently one of the 12 is different from the others, we may even consider it 11 and 1, rather than just 12.

Besides this, 12 individuals meant to spend money for the sake of helping a country? When there are individuals set up to help a whole country like that, it seems rather... governmental. Let's also take into account all that stuff about Kings and Princes in the opening - it seems that the creators knew that 12 would represent perfect governance. So let's see where they go with that.

The question, for me, is when to stop linking the biblical numbers and the numbers in the show. For instance, Akira was apparently born on the 7th of January, and 7 is a perfect and pure number - but Saki was born on the 6th, an evil number. I doubt that Saki is evil (unless she's meant to represent that slut Eve, who we all know is evil and at fault for getting our asses kicked out of Eden).

So. How much weight do think the numbers will have in terms of how this series plays out?

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Starry Dust Lurkin' in ur threadz. Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Sunshine State Age: 32	So last night had me thinking... Spoiler for Some speculations & questions: How the hell do you kidnapp 20,000 people? xD I mean if someone can provide an answer I'll be glad to hear it but if it's only an answer within the anime then I guess we just have to wait & find out. Then again we are talking about the Selecao and Juiz and Juiz can make anything happen...unless there's a hidden roadblock ahead or some sort ( like asking to explode the world or something crazy like that ) Either the Selecao system is cautious about who is given the phones or they just don't care but I don't think Juiz really can't make everyone's wish happen. But I think it was mentioned earlier about the "mis-use" of the phone & the consequences...right? Another thing I taken into account is the ED. Since we have episode 2 with that, I couldn't help but make some connection hoping the ED can cope it out. I think it's been analyzed already in this thread but they mentioned the sudden turning of Saki's silhouette from gray/white to hollow black. We see her running and then the missles hit near by & she's blown away or has fell down somewhere. Surprisely she didn't get paper-shredded or died. While I find it really hard to believe that no one was a victim of the attacks, the kidnap thing sounds possible. I also hold tight to the "cover-up" theory. Why? I dunno, maybe they didn't want to create a massive scare in Japan. Save as many people as you like, I still believe someone could've had died or gottnen hurt. Plus there was more than 1 missle attack ( 11 in fact ) unless Akira managed to kidnap everyone eachtime one was coming O__o Plus, when people are kidnapped, wouldn't they have said so? Or was it too much of a good thing to blame it on the kidnapper since he/she saved their life? Or maybe the Selecao mind-wiped them into thinking "no one" was hurt & didn't know who the enemy was. Gah, too many thoughts, I'll stop right there. I bet there's a bunch of plot-holes on what I'm saying lol xD

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solomon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Suburban DC	anybody know what kinda numbers it got?

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teelotes ·¥äkítðrý· Join Date: Feb 2008	I'm glad Saki has made an advancement in her love life on Valentine's Day

2009-04-18, 03:25	Link #364
Claies Good-Natured Asshole. Join Date: May 2007 Age: 34	I'd love to see how two Selecao users fight. A few possible ideas on crazy revelations: 1) There were two factions of Selecao users of opposing ideologies in conflict, causing the 11 well-timed, deathless missile strikes. Specifically, Akira made a string of weird moves with 20,000 NEETs to confuse the enemy faction into traps (or Juiz herself made the moves as a means according to a vaguer order from Akira). 2) Saki is in the Selecao system. Akira was supposed to kill her (possibly for being in the opposing faction), but they were in love, and decided to buy brainwashing programs to start over. (Yeah, right) 3) Akira brainwashed Saki and sent her and her friends on a trip to New York, thus allowing him to start over after a massacre of several other Selecao. 4) Akira was one of these 20,000 NEETs. Another Selecao user (Saki?) bestowed him his/her phone and gave him the instructions: Find armory in D.C., bring revolver to the White House, strip naked, and use the phone when it rings. 5) Saki's friends, the whole freaking car of them, are in the Selecao system. (Although that would cheapen the series somewhat) A few things I have problems fitting in: - Akira had this revolver in the beginning that he threw away right after he met Saki. In the guesses above, Akira has no reason to carry a revolver and undress in front of the White House. - Secondly, I don't know how powerful the phones are, but it looks like Kondo IV can see all transactions. He would have known what's happening. Maybe the transaction history is wiped when the phone is passed on, which supports #4 a little bit. And a few things to consider: - They can get secondary phones, so that their actions aren't tracked. - Must they not transfer their funds to cash?

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Fevvers a regular van veen Join Date: Feb 2007	Glad to know episode 2 continues to impress. I am especially loving the interactions between the characters; it's realistic in a sense that, they (Akira and Saki) are two people you can almost imagine anywhere in the real world, barring the odd circumstance Akira got himself into, of course. Budding romance aside, they act like normal teenagers without the usual need to dramatize or stereotype their dynamics compared to other romance anime; if this were some other anime for instance, Saki would have bludgeoned Akira to death when he showed up naked that first meeting. I thought Akira's snapping his fingers to get Saki to explain faster as particularly revealing with the comforting air and natural banter developed between those two. Honestly, if the level of quality this series demonstrate continues until the end, I'd be more than ecstatic. Nothing else this season has impressed me as much anyway, aside from Sengoku and Basquash, if only for their stupid fun.

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izmosmolnar At the end of this world Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Hungary, Europe Age: 39	Well don't take it the wrong way, but to be perfectly blunt, I found the interaction between the two a bit awkward. They flew from Washington DC back to Japan which is about ~16-18 hour flight (do note they sat by each other), and they supposedly talked with each other so little that he didn't even told her he suffers from amnesia O.o (plus they spent several other hours before and after that anyway). They were completely silent the whole flight or what? Or I guess it's explainable that they slept 8-8 hours each, while the other was awake, but that's sounds a bit against human nature in my honest opinion. I mean they are indeed nice and they look alright with each other, but I've found that point a bit unbelievable. I've actually presumed he should have already told her he don't remember anything so I was a bit surprised when I see he actually tells her that in the middle of ep2 in Tokyo airport. Otherwise what they could have been doing offscreen? Obviously not talking about movies, Careless monday, or any personal stuff either. Edit I didn't meant to be finicky though, I love the series so far

2009-04-18, 09:56	Link #370
neogeo1990 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2008	Around 1.5 million yen to hire/bribe someone (police?) kill those 2 (or 3?) men... rather cheap isn't it? XD And about IV going after IX... think he wants to kill him off and take his phone "I'll be taking your duty", after all he only has 7,000 so yen and then his duty would be finished? Maybe the supporter will kill him off soon for abusing his powers? But then if there is only one supporter within the 12 selecaos then couldn't the supporter just kill the other 11 all off? Thinking about this... I'm thinking that the supporter gets to only kill one selecao and then he/she must transfer his/her powers which then the position would be allocated by Juiz presumably.

2009-04-18, 10:11	Link #372
Kinny Riddle Gone for Good Join Date: Apr 2004	This is getting interesting. People with unique mobile phones, able to give commands that allows them to achieve anything they wish for. It probably comes with the price of which we know nothing about, but probably has something to do with the French slogan Juiz uses: Noblesse Oblige. http://www.answers.com/topic/noblesse-oblige A comment on a minor error by gg fansubs, when one of the debtors came to claim money from Kondo, he said Kondo owes him 20 million (2千万), but gg's subs say 2 million. Saki finds herself irresistibly intrigued by the mysterious young man Akira, and despite not knowing anything about him, decides to take up his offer to "jump ship" with him, literally. Though this jumping of ship may begin an exciting adventure for her, and for us as well. Nonsensical for the lolz speculation: I think not only has 20,000 NEET been kidnapped, but one of their Meccas, the Tokyo Big Sight, is probably one of the places hit by the missile attack since the Big Sight is very near Toyosu. Rainbow Bridge can be seen in the background, so I can't be wrong, since I've been to the Big Sight, which is nearby. Saki's mobile phone map shows the missile having hit somewhere south east of Toyosu, which would be somewhere around the Ariake area. I wouldn't be surprised if Akihabara got nuked as well.

2009-04-18, 10:25	Link #374
Kinny Riddle Gone for Good Join Date: Apr 2004	Speaking of which, is this the first time an anime series ever make reference to 9/11? Though Akira or Saki (I forgot who exactly) were a bit off when they said no movie had yet been made about that. There's the one with Nicholas Cage, and another one about UA93 which crashed in Pennsylvania, directed by Paul Greengrass, who is also the director for the second and third of the Jason Bourne trilogy, which Akira seems to be based on.

2009-04-18, 10:49	Link #377
Kinny Riddle Gone for Good Join Date: Apr 2004	I see, thanks for clearing that up, guys. I must have heard wrong. I'm feeling like going to my local HMV and grab Oasis's Dig Out Your Soul album, which contains Falling Down.