2008-11-01, 04:04 | Link #4301 | |
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The reason why it was so explosive for Palin was, in part, because she'd tried so hard to sell herself as a small-town, down-to-earth hockey mom. It's much like Edwards' $400 haircuts -- expensive haircuts are nothing big in politics, but if you're trying to run on an a-hyuk-I'm-just-one-of-the-folks, then obviously spending huge amounts of money on yourself is going to undermine it. I don't think that Palin buying expensive clothes is horrible (the convoluted campaign-finance tricks they used to try and hide it were embarrassing, but even that's not it). The issue is that her folksy posturing is complete bollocks; I think most of the people on this board knew or strongly suspected it, but the massive amount she spent on clothes was much more solid proof. It's not really the thousand-dollar designer suits that are embarrassing; it's understandable that a politician would want to spend money on looking good. It's all the "gosh-darn, I'm just one of you folks" that came before it, which is now revealed as (bad, overly-hammy) posturing by the woman wearing thousand-dollar designer suits. Last edited by Aquillion; 2008-11-01 at 04:15. |
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2008-11-01, 17:12 | Link #4302 | |
It's bacon!
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...Kind of like the whole French thing some time ago if you remember the Freedom Fries and all that. |
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2008-11-01, 17:39 | Link #4303 |
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Speaking of "redistributing wealth"...
Palin's Movement Urges 'Godly' To 'Plunder' Wealth of The 'Godless' Sarah Palin endorser Bishop Thomas Muthee, in a speech he gave before blessing and anointing Sarah Palin as a political leader, on October 16, 2005 at the Wasilla Assembly of God, laid out the current agenda of the New Apostolic Reformation - how "God's kingdom" needed to "infiltrate" seven sectors of society. Muthee listed most of them: business and finance, schools and education, media and entertainment, politics and government. Muthee also stated "The Bible says the wealth of the wicked is stored up for the righteous. Sarah Palin was in the audience. Minutes later, she was anointed, and blessed, with the laying on of hands. Thomas Muthee is an internationally known celebrity in the New Apostolic Reformation and a personal friend of the movement's head, C. Peter Wagner. In June 2006 Wagner proclaimed that "God has declared through His prophets that the wealth of the wicked will be released to the Kingdom of God," and declared, threateningly, "the enemies' camp will be plundered." ..."I declare that this wealth will be distributed for the extension of the Kingdom of God by the apostles that God has set in the church." Wagner made clear that that human agency would be a part of his wealth transfer scheme, and Wagner specifically singled out the "godless": http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-..._b_139987.html |
2008-11-01, 17:41 | Link #4304 |
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Much as I'd love to tie this to Palin, I'm going to take the same position that I did with Obama and Wright: just because she was in the audience and received Muthee's praise doesn't mean she supports his cracked ideas.
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2008-11-01, 20:40 | Link #4305 |
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I know negative political ads and attacks are a basic fundamental(?) part of politics. But some of the negative attacks in the Republican camp (eg. the little terrorist claim) and how the republican campaign strategy seems to have embraced such attacks openly made me and some of my friends who were previously open to either candidates prefer Obama over McCain.
Digging up dirt and throwing them at the opponents faces is normal, unfortunately, but there are some things that take thins a tad too far.
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2008-11-02, 00:15 | Link #4306 | |
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2008-11-02, 00:57 | Link #4307 |
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Great night on Saturday Night Live: John McCain On Saturday Night Live With Tina Fey As Palin (VIDEO). Also, Ben Affleck did a wonderful lampoon of Keith Olbermann, portraying the Far Left's answer to Rush Limbaugh as crazed bachelor that still lives with his mother and conducts editorials concerning his cat Princess Precious (or some such name). Great night overall for the historically uneven SNL.
After the election, if John McCain loses, I expect that everyone (or at least those that know of the "old" McCain) will ask, "Where was the John McCain from the Daily Show, from SNL, from 2000." But, if he wins, and it is partially due to this skit, then America deserves John McCain and Sarah Palin. |
2008-11-02, 01:08 | Link #4308 | |
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2008-11-02, 01:19 | Link #4309 |
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Regardless of who wins neither can't do any better than Bush. As a person George W. Bush would be pretty nice guy I wouldn't mind having as a neighbour . But as a president of the most powerful country in the world he doesn't qualify.
A pity really.
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2008-11-02, 01:28 | Link #4310 |
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Early voting seems like a hit with tallies ranging from 10 to 50 percent of registered voters in many places around the country.
(10% for Indy 50% for Vegas and Austin for example) they say there is gonna BIG turnout. |
2008-11-02, 06:48 | Link #4313 |
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Something tells me it'll be closer than we think. Especially in Ohio and Florida.
Scince im an Obama man, loooking at it most conservatively if he manages to get all the usual democratic places (NE, Great Lakes except OH and IN, Pacific Coast) plus Iowa, Colorado and New Mexico he can JUUUUUUSSST edge out McCain |
2008-11-02, 07:41 | Link #4314 | |
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2008-11-02, 13:39 | Link #4317 |
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^The only reason McCain would take Missouri is because damn Ralph Nader, for whatever reason, has 4% of the "Left" vote in Missouri. Otherwise, the state would be almost locked-up for Obama. That being said, it is extraordinarily close in Missouri, a state that has a metropolitan population almost exactly equal to the rural population (at least in regards to likely voters).
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2008-11-02, 16:42 | Link #4318 |
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This is a little old, but still relevant. Focus on the Family, an American evangelical group headed by James Dobson, issued a letter predicting what an Obama Presidency would be like. Check out the link to read it and get some LOL's.
http://focusfamaction.edgeboss.net/d...2012letter.pdf |
2008-11-02, 17:41 | Link #4320 |
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Dobson is one of a handful of extremists that stretch and twist the very meaning of Christianity. My reading of the words attributed to Jesus imply that He would trout-slap Dobson into oblivion along with Robertson and the rest of the theocrats.
They're losing their grip on the sheep as the younger sheep take a closer look at the hate spew these guys have put out for decades.
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