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View Poll Results: Darker Than Black - Episode 12 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 29 | 14.22% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 42 | 20.59% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 37 | 18.14% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 38 | 18.63% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 11 | 5.39% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 11 | 5.39% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 4 | 1.96% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 8 | 3.92% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 24 | 11.76% | |
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2009-12-28, 11:33 | Link #281 |
Waiting for more taiyuki!
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But the soul placement in the screen supports that "Kill me" came from the central being (Dark Yin) as White Yin was off to the side where the souls are spread apart . I still think that we may have a collar color issue imo. But having both Yins connected is another way of looking at it also.
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2009-12-28, 12:19 | Link #282 | ||
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I believe that, at least, Suou and July are the same, that Shion just made copies of their bodies. There's room for others contractors to be the real ones too. Mainly because we don't know what was Izanami part in the deal made with Shion. Why would he need Izanami to make copies? Izanami was gathering contractor's ghosts and we don't know why she was doing it. Maybe it was her job to send these ghosts (Suou and July at least) to this new Earth. For Shion, and his father, Suou was not a copy, but the real one. Shion longed to protect her individuality, because it was his dream to live in a happy family with Suou.
And, even if in the sky in the new Earth don't have it, Suou made a origami of a red star, and it seens that the red star was Shions star. Quote:
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2009-12-28, 13:35 | Link #283 |
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Finished for the subs today, and I was, *-* I re-watched it again, then I view this thread, not all of it (too much!) well, my comment with the ending as I predicted : awkward, unclear, and unsolved.
But, I also like this episode so much. Seeing Hei smiling, OMG its the calm smile I ever see. So at least now a happy ending for Hei, not like the season 1 that he seems suffer so much. Shion creating another earth, what a power, he doing this as a present for Suou. Shion must love Suou very much, as his big sister, like his last sentence "oneecha-" T_T The new hair style of Misaki! I love it! why did bones decided to change it style? wkwk Then July, think he released from his doll being, but I dunno if he loved Suou as friend or not? so cute with his smile, unfortunately Suou didnt remember him. For the Yin, what is that another Yin? A white Yin and a black Yin, is it a split of inner self? But I am glad that she wouldnt attacked Hei, lol what am I thinking, they love each other! I am waiting for the OVA, I think it would be explain some of our questions. For BONES making a troll, I didnt agreed. BONES make a such story, an extra ord that we felt of questions, and that's why I love this series. more DTB please! xD Farewell, Hei, Suou and the rest of Darker than Black Ryuusei No Gemini. |
2009-12-28, 14:39 | Link #284 | |
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2009-12-28, 19:07 | Link #285 | ||
さっく♥ゆうきゃん♥ほそやん
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but apologies for singling out your post when you actually suggested an answer - there are others who kept asking where/what the new gate is...and I think the answer may simply be that there isn't one... (not to mention it just isn't necessary for everyone to ask!) I'm actually not sure that Hell's Gate and Heaven's Gate are concrete places whose boundaries are identified by objects you can see. After all, the places where July and Shion disappeared are meant to be within the Gate. (see ~5.50) Quote:
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2009-12-29, 07:05 | Link #286 |
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Great episode IMHO, and I agree that it certainly leaves enough(a LOT) questions unawnsered for a third season.
Misaki looked really good at the end . The thing that bothered me was America "taking over the streets of Tokyo", it reminds me of a certain code..... Anyway I loved the season alot and am hoping for more! |
2009-12-29, 11:09 | Link #287 |
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Someone posted a magazine scan online that was an excerpt from an interview with Okamura Tensai:
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For people more knowledgeable with Japanese there's a scan here. I hope it's a fake or it's just a joke, but I guess I have to rewatch the second season again.
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2009-12-29, 12:27 | Link #288 | |
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OVA's should be a very drama like now =]
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2009-12-29, 12:57 | Link #289 | |
Carpe Diem
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Do we just assume that the real world is screwed now and that evil-shota is going to kill everyone left? If that's the case then this really was an End of Eva ending, just with the EVA-01 replaced by a planet full of people. Without any season to follow, the ending of S2 just isn't very conclusive for an ending of a whole story. |
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2009-12-29, 13:17 | Link #291 |
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wow... that's weird. (Makes discussing the issue about Yin futile as well... :x)
I mean, I agree, she looks dead to me, but there are enough people here alone that seem to disagree (even though that's always the case whenever some character dies ). Leaving questions unanswered, I can understand, but if DtB is finished, then why include Kagutsuchi- Hellspawn at the end? |
2009-12-29, 13:41 | Link #292 |
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Still have no clue wth the entire season was all about... It like involved an army of suou somehow linked together Misaka style or something.
They also never really explained wth is the moon and dark yin (yang?)'s purpose either. And wtf happened with Suou anyways? Is she in the matrix? Maybe this will all make sense if all rewatch the entire season again in a row =/ |
2009-12-29, 15:46 | Link #293 |
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Everything pretty much make sense except for Yin and Madam Oreille. They didn't explain crap about her and just left it wide bloody open. Yin I have a very rough idea but if I'm correct then Yin is still alive. The disaster is that boy because if you remember from earlier Yin was pregnant.
However if Yin is dead then WTF? Why did the calamity(the boy) still happen? Why did Yin die then? This crap makes no sense. |
2009-12-29, 16:21 | Link #294 | |
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Spoiler for interview with director talking about Yin and Hei and any plans for a future series:
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2009-12-29, 18:46 | Link #295 | |||
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Important points I already outlined HERE. For you lazy readers. Quote:
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This is just an initial reaction mind, and there's still a chance the director will change his mind later on. I mean, Anno took almost 15 years before Rebuild of Evangelion right? I guess it could be interpreted as 'If you love someone enough, you'll be able to understand when it's time to let them go."
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2009-12-29, 19:00 | Link #296 | |
Carpe Diem
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My big qualm if its in the likeness of End of Eva is that Unit-01 became a god-like entity, it doesn't need food, water, or sunlight, and will last forever as a testament to the existence of humanity no matter what people may choose on Orange-Earth. On the other hand, Shion's copy is floating off into space. It will eventually lose the heat of the sun and turn into a giant snowball, ultimately colliding with some snowman planet for ultimate irony. The comparison in ideas is there, but EoE is much more "realistic" in terms of a conclusion. |
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2009-12-29, 21:07 | Link #298 |
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Seemed eerily like a willful euthanasia to me. The scene itself is vague enough as it is without the director's comments, though that it can be interpreted in multiple ways... Including one where Hei was just granting his loved one's wish to be lit up more than a Christmas Tree in Time Square.
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2009-12-29, 21:29 | Link #299 |
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The plot seemed to indicate that Yin wanted to die in order to prevent the calamity from happening, hence the whole putting herself to sleep. Also it's a bit much for Hei to just kill her without even attempting to talk her back to normal unless there was a time crunch(the calamity). The calamity happening makes Yin's sacrifice at the end absolutely pointless.
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2009-12-29, 21:34 | Link #300 | |
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Why were there 2 Yin? Shion said he made "a deal," and Yin presumably sent the memory/soul/whatever of July and Suou to the new Earth, but what was Shion's part in the deal? Did he create another Yin that we saw at the end? That would make sense why Izanami and Izanigi meeting would produce calamity. Yet what was the point of having another Yin from Yin's perspective? Wtf Hei got his power back? Was it because his power was inside Suou's meteor fragment the whole time, since she disrupted the trap in Ep 2? What did Hei do to Yin at the end? Did he kill her? Then how come the, say, Kagu-Tsuchi was still born? He killed his lover to save the world, yet still failed at saving the world? Or did he sacrifice the world and not kill her? In fact, in the final "epic" scene, we saw only 1 Yin. Exactly how the hell was that Kagu-Tsuchi born again? A transformation on one of the two Yin by Hei's power??? Why did a new gate appear? Does it have any connection with the Izanami incident? What was Madam Oreille's wish? And where was my Hazuki |
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