2010-05-27, 00:14 | Link #1601 |
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Death note anyone? The hate is strong with this one... Anyways, maybe we should all just simmer down a bit, and enjoy the new manga. I mean, that's what we're all here for right; to enjoy Code Geass and socialize with others who have the same interests?
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2010-05-27, 01:24 | Link #1604 |
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And in social situations in the real world, bouncers are hired to kick the tar out of trouble makers so everyone else can continue having a good time.
And if Sunrise ever decided to conform to fan theory, I'd commit zero requiem. That is all. Last edited by Zetsubou Bunny; 2010-05-27 at 02:19. |
2010-05-27, 04:18 | Link #1605 | |
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2010-05-27, 04:39 | Link #1607 |
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They already mentioned that the anime -- Lelouch of the Rebellion (R1, R2) is the sequel to Jet Black Renya.
Manga other then Jet Black Renya are in a different verse all together, thus the split between 'animeverse' and 'mangaverse' as it's been called. As such that includes Nightmare of Nunnally, Suzaku of the Counterattack, and so on. Even the manga adaption of Lelouch of the Rebellion is considered less canon due to it's differentiated content. So we can put Renya and Lelouch in the same timeline/universe. Black jet Renya IS part of canon Code Geass history - that has been determined by Taniguchi. Or from what I've seen anyways. Did I get anything wrong? |
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Let me be VERY clear: A manga allows Taniguchi the opportunity to explain his story with GREATER depth than what he was allowed to do with the anime. When I state that the manga and anime should be separate, I meant to say that the story[manga] would not have the same problems going forward as it was done to the anime the first time around. This is why I would love to see Okouchi remake Lelouch of the Rebellion as a manga because it would give him the freedom of laying out the story better than what the anime production schedule allowed. Therefore, I would love to see the story of Code Geass told as a manga first because it provides an outline for the animation to follow. Manga first. Anime second. Last edited by darthfury78; 2010-05-27 at 09:56. |
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And if you think your posts have "kicked the tar out of me", then you can add delusional to your list of qualities, along with ignorant and intolerant. If someone having a different opinion from you is an obstacle to your fun, you shouldn't venture outside of your little box. I didn't come to this topic to have a discussion with a troll, nor did I come here to discuss the ending of R2. Discussion of the new manga and anime is what this topic is for, so that's what I'm here to discuss. If that somehow ties into Lelouch possibly being in the new manga, then so be it. But until there's a concrete canon explanation, your opinion is just as good as mine. I won't entertain further exchanges with you since having a sensible, open-minded conversation with you is impossible. I will not just go away though, so if that dampens your "good time", you'll just have to bear with it. Back on topic, does anyone know if a group has already committed to scanlating the new manga? Since this manga is actually canon, I would think there would be quite a few people eager to scanlate it. |
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2010-05-27, 10:29 | Link #1611 | |
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we actually like different opinions around here (mostly) its because your theory namely that Lelouch is anything other then dead meat, has been REPEATEDLY refuted by everyone involved in the project which makes your continued insistence of arguing this theory pointlessly redundant or as you put it, "troll crap" championing a theory only works when the theory is a VALID option if the theory has already been disproved by the forces that be, then its just blowing smoke
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2010-05-27, 11:35 | Link #1612 | |
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They can say he died any number of times, but because of the way the Code works, if they find it helpful for the franchise they can always bring him back using this explanation. But if there is something that specifically says that he did not get the Code, then I would be interested in seeing it. |
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2010-05-27, 11:52 | Link #1613 | |
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not "died", DEAD as in, he did NOT come back to life. Zetsubou Bunny's sig actually contains a link in it to an entire GROUP concerning it but i'll give you a link http://forums.animesuki.com/group.ph...scussionid=974
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2010-05-27, 12:02 | Link #1614 |
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Is this necessary? I fail to understand why we can't get along with each other's theories so long we remain civil and open up to the logistics of the theory.
It's as Blade says, the theory needs to have several validly conclusive evidence in order to be anymore more then inductive. Arguing which theory has sovereign over all others... Well, that is a waste of time. The answer is very simple: Our theories are worthless because we aren't the one doing the manga. So being malicious and spiteful won't get you anywhere on something so trivial. Yes I understand the anticipation, I readily feel it. But what I can't feel is the overall desire to make something meant to be taken in stride so overwhelmingly serious. I personally think this is childish, it's a superb fandom. We shouldn't represent it by being like this. Again I won't name my theory because it's currently lacking substance. I'll need more confirmation and or adjustment to see whether or not it'll hold water. |
2010-05-27, 12:15 | Link #1615 |
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Yes I've seen that before. But those materials do not address any information about the Code nor does it state that Lelouch did not gain it; since it does not say that specifically, it does not address the theory. Although it may appear more likely that Lelouch is just dead, those material do not rule out the possibility that he obtained the Code from Charles during their encounter.
I am not trying to argue that I am right and everyone else is wrong, I am merely saying that the possibility exists. A few pages back someone mentioned that if the "mysterious figure " that bears a striking resemblance to Lelouch in the new manga is indeed Lelouch, that should provide evidence that he did not obtain the Code since the person possesses the Geass in both eyes. My post regarding Lelouch gaining the Code from Charles, rather than C.C., could make it possible for him to have both the Code (from Charles) and the Geass (from C.C.). Since we know that the Code activates upon death, unless the writers state specifically that Lelouch did not gain the Code and is therefore dead with no chance of return, the possibility that he does have it still exists until they say otherwise. The information supporting his death is not information ruling out the possibility that he obtained the Code. Since it is not, an ambiguity will continue to exist until we have concrete proof that can rule out the possibility of him getting the Code. As long as the possibility exists, it is still a viable option for the writers to take. If their ventures with Code Geass without Lelouch are not as successful as they hope, you can rest assured that they will find some way to bring him back into the story so the series can ride on his popularity. Since they have yet to rule out the possibility of him having the Code, they have that as an option they could use at any point. |
2010-05-27, 12:21 | Link #1616 |
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In the end, no matter what any of the creators of the show said at any given time, it's not like they can't retcon it if it's convenient. Mind you, generally, retconning purely to bring a character back without any logical reason other than he was popular almost always ends in disappointment (ala Mu La Flaga).
Still, since it's no way confirmed that Lelouch is alive, let alone that he has a Code AND that Code can apparently let him travel through time for some reason, I'm not going jump to any conclusions. youngde, signing off
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If this where the appropriate topic, then arguing over theories would be acceptable. But this is not the place for it, and as I said before I'm not going to keep arguing with people that can't accept the opinions of others. That being said, I would be interested in reading your theory Arbitres. Because as you said, we should appreciate the fandom and the different ideas everyone has to offer. |
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2010-05-27, 12:40 | Link #1620 | |
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It's the best way to maintain civility, or in my point of view anyways. Feel entirely free to oppose it. Edit: Excellent Konart. Thank you. |
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