2013-09-23, 20:49 | Link #821 |
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I have to disagree. This show is not subtle about characters using techniques. It's true that no one was close enough, but I would argue that the writers could easily have changed that or used visual effects. Ultimately, this series is meant for young audiences, and is famous for making painstaking efforts to explain what's going on.
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2013-09-23, 21:07 | Link #822 | |
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2013-09-24, 09:07 | Link #823 |
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^With Vegeta, Adult Gohan, and Gotenks, you may have an argument since their SSJ2 hair is virtually identical to their SSJ1 hair thus creating ambiguity. But for Goku, as I said already, there's a clear distinction between his SSJ1 hair and SSJ2 hair, and this movie definitely showed his SSJ1 hair during his battle with Bills at the end. There's no debating this. And since this movie has no manga counterpart, you can't use the manga as a comparison to show that Goku wasn't SSJ1. This discussion is over.
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2013-09-24, 09:43 | Link #825 | |
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Good lord, as has been stated over and over again, Toei is lazy and rarely animates that. It is not proof of anything. |
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2013-09-24, 10:54 | Link #826 |
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It's safer to say it's regular SSJ without affirmative cues from the staff saying otherwise. The more interesting question, I think, is what did Goku use to neutralize Bills's Super Energy Sphere? It seemed to amuse Bills enough to spare Goku's life.
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2013-09-24, 13:03 | Link #828 | |
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Meh, well that's my crackpot theory. Am I the only one itching for a new series?
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2013-09-24, 16:07 | Link #829 | |
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That being said, have fun deluding yourself if it makes you feel better. I don't waste my time with obstinate trolls. To the ignore list you go.
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2013-09-24, 18:35 | Link #830 |
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I disagree so I'm a troll? How nice. Putting someone on the ignore list for disagreeing with you in a calm manner makes you lose all credibility.
And I'd say the fact they can't even get the Mystic status of Gohan correct after being told to get it correct and having to fix it in one instance but not the other, let alone SSJ2 on the likes of Vegeta, is enough to discount "hair style" for Goku. There's no logical reason not to go SSJ2 at any and all times when SSJ would otherwise be invoked. It's literally just SSJ but better with no downsides, unlike SSJ3's energy drain. And excuse me for not remembering every minute detail of a series that ended 10 freaking years ago and what aspects of it were filler and what wasn't. But just for your reference, no, he was not SSJ2 according to the anime: http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Bat...niverse_Begins Check the images. No lightning aura. He had it when he initially powered up, but then throughout the fight he did not have it. Perhaps you're the one who "needs to get your eyes checked". Last edited by GDB; 2013-09-24 at 18:46. |
2013-09-24, 19:51 | Link #831 | |
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2013-09-24, 20:03 | Link #832 |
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Calling out others troll seems really inappropiate.
I think only one episode of GT did show the Super Saiyan 2 but for five seconds. It's when Goku fought that blue robot and changed his appearance to block an attack. I don't have an image though. |
2013-09-24, 21:13 | Link #833 | |
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SSJ SSJ2 And this is from the following episode where he shows Kid Buu the two forms in sequence ala Fat Buu: SSJ SSJ2 Aside from the hair change and the lighting aura, you can see a more fiercer expression in the latter form. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agBdfnBzrBI This is where Goku shows the forms to Beers. The first is what he clearly uses against him in the final battle. |
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2013-09-27, 19:18 | Link #834 |
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Come to think of it, Goku is SSJ1 when kills Buu too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9VeZF9oDGg Maybe the writers think that's Goku at his best? |
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http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-21624.html
Toriyama stated that if another DBZ movie is made, he would like Vegeta to be its main character.
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2014-02-01, 13:57 | Link #840 |
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That's only his wish, not a request. Toei may or may not listen to him. They seem to value his input (he was involved quite a bit in Battle of Gods, wasn't he?) so this might come true.
I'd love for Vegeta to take the center of the stage.
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