Valvrave the Liberator - General Anime Discussion

[maplehurry]

Originally Posted by Shinhwa

Spoiler for Episode 1:

More like would the heroine die in episode 1 + would she even be on the OP that much if she was going to die on the first episode? lol

sure, like a certain shakespearn inspired anime...

[Cirno]

Best gif from ep 1

Originally Posted by Shinji103

Spoiler:

Don't schedule the funeral just yet. As I pointed out earlier in the thread, there's a fair amount of indicators that she isn't really dead, first and foremost being the tried-and-true rule "no body, no death." And Sunrise is a master of this rule. (all we saw was a "boom," no dismembered/charred/disintegrated body, and Sunrise characters have survived particle cannons and massive physical trauma in open space, so.....) So I'm not counting her off just yet.

Spoiler:

Ah I just know this anime was made by Sunrise. Oh Sunrise, no confirmed death even if you see victim's helmet floating in space.

I hope Shoko isn't turned into a vampire/zombie/ghoul if she was really dead.

[Shinhwa]

No matter how I see it, Shouko totally looks like Kinoshita Hideyoshi lol

[darkchibi07]

Originally Posted by Cirno

Spoiler:

I hope Shoko isn't turned into a vampire/zombie/ghoul if she was really dead.

Spoiler for ep. 1:

C'mon vampire cyborg that pilots a mech that connected to her body!

[creb]

Wow. I was like...


....neutral world...

....lol..."Orb"...hehehe...

....Zaft!....

....this woulda' made a better Gundam than AGE...

....Unicorn!....

....ED...meh...

....wtf...Gundam with vampires!

Looks fun.

[stardrago]

Okay, I am not sure why no one is talking about this part, especially since the opening was put up; did no one saw the other 4 machines based on the Valvrave? Part of me thinks those are other machines that will be known soon, another part of me, which may be too far fetch is that the Valvrave can form change, the red Valvrave would be the bacic form, the blue one is some archer, the green one uses buzzsaw, the yellow uses cannons, and the purple one uses a scepter I think.

[frubam]

Spoiler for ep 1:

Animation is great! All of the colors are bright and vibrant, and I love the detail they have in their eyes.

That battle was superb =03. I really like the conventional weapons the Valverave used instead of the typical beam-type weapons. Looks cooler that way, and is a nice change of pace from the norm.

Also too bad for Shoko. Obvious death flag when they got to the confession part, but for what time she was on the screen, she was an awesome, super cute, entertaining, and fun char =03. She will be missed .

It was obvious Haruto wasn't going to die, but nonetheless, that cliffhanger ending will def have me tuning in first thing next week!

Originally Posted by Cirno

Best gif from ep 1

QFT !

[DragoonKain3]

Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

No celebration for me until she's the last girl standing in her childhood friend's heart.

I frigging knew it! You just can't celebrate until the fat lady sings. I was like, alright, MC and best female friend seems to have the hots for each other... in the first episode? And we have MC trying to do confession? And female friend runs off to 'save' someone? Yeah....

Spoiler for my feelings towards episode 1 after that scene:

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

:f rustrated::fru strated::frust rated::frustra ted::frustrate d:

Yeah go Valverave, GO FUCKING KILL THEM ALL!!!!!

Aww man, never had an episode feel so cathartic.


On a side note, as much as OP sounded good, I wanted the ED more.

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

So does this Dyson Sphere in the series cover the whole solar system? Or is it just surrounding the sun?

[DragoonKain3]

What? I thought Dyson Sphere is by definition is something that's suppose to surround the sun (the closer the better, but more dangerous). Because if it surrounds the entire solar system, it ain't gonna get any energy because of the inverse square law. XD

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

What? I thought Dyson Sphere is by definition is something that's suppose to surround the sun (the closer the better, but more dangerous). Because if it surrounds the entire solar system, it ain't gonna get any energy because of the inverse square law. XD

They vary by size from show to show.

There's one in Star Trek TNG that encompasses the entire orbit of Earth. I'm just wondering if this sphere is that big, or a bit smaller.

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

So does this Dyson Sphere in the series cover the whole solar system? Or is it just surrounding the sun?

Small enough to have 1g gravity on the shell surface.

[creb]

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

Small enough to have 1g gravity on the shell surface.

1 g gravity only makes some semblance of sense if it was surrounding the Earth (or Earth-like planet).

Wasn't really paying enough attention, so I'll have to re-watch it I guess.

Also, I'm not seeing his name on the credits, but was that "Char" narrating in the beginning?

Edit: Paying closer attention to the beginning, the dyson sphere appears to be encompassing the sun, but it must be a heck of a small one (or trying to make physical sense of an anime is a fool's dream). Though, now I'm confused. It initially appears that those panels on the dyson sphere are essentially habitats. Later, when the fighting starts, you get the shot of the "planet". Was that actually a shot of the dyson sphere's surface?

[DragoonKain3]

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

There's one in Star Trek TNG that encompasses the entire orbit of Earth. I'm just wondering if this sphere is that big, or a bit smaller.

Orbit of earth is still quite small distance compared to the entire solar system. It's around ~40 AU if you take Pluto's orbit, or in the thousands if you include comets.

[RRW]

I think you need 1 AU AKA Earth orbit to have 1g

[DragoonKain3]

Originally Posted by RRW

I think you need 1 AU AKA Earth orbit to have 1g

Nah. About ~0.002 AU or ~3,000,000 kms from the surface of the sun.

[Tiberium Wolf]

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

So does this Dyson Sphere in the series cover the whole solar system? Or is it just surrounding the sun?

Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

What? I thought Dyson Sphere is by definition is something that's suppose to surround the sun (the closer the better, but more dangerous). Because if it surrounds the entire solar system, it ain't gonna get any energy because of the inverse square law. XD

The sun? I don't think so. Right at the beginning there were several spheres. Most likely an artificial sun.

[DragoonKain3]

Originally Posted by Tiberium Wolf

The sun? I don't think so. Right at the beginning there were several spheres. Most likely an artificial sun.

Well the subs do say "the dyson sphere" in the beginning. I thought those sphere thingies outside of earth are just colonies or whatever.

[creb]

Originally Posted by Tiberium Wolf

The sun? I don't think so. Right at the beginning there were several spheres. Most likely an artificial sun.

Oh, you're right. Things begin to make more sense. The rods sticking out of that one "sun" would likely be more evidence of that.

So, what we're seeing at the start are some finished spheres (that look like planets), and one sphere that's still in the process of being built.

Originally Posted by DragoonKain3

Well the subs do say "the dyson sphere" in the beginning. I thought those sphere thingies outside of earth are just colonies or whatever.

But, remember, the operator called that one sphere, "Sphere No. 1", which indicates there are multiple spheres, or why bother numbering them?

Also, getting back to size and gravity, I just realized they're on the inside of the spheres, not the outside. Presumably they are spinning the spheres to generate gravity? Which would also suggest the "sky" we see later on at night is an artificial image on the dome surface of their habitat.

[DragoonKain3]

Do remember they said "JIOR Sphere No. 1". Note that JIOR is the netural country between the two military superpowers. So yeah, they're just a space colony that belongs to the JIOR country, and by going by the ED/OP, there's 4 other JIOR spheres each containing their own version of Valvrave.