2009-09-24, 20:00 | Link #101 | |
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2009-09-24, 20:04 | Link #103 |
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I just read this chapter and I thought it was handled very well. Oda's approach as to how Luffy would attempt to rescue Ace was smart. We all knew that Luffy could not hope to compete with the superpowers that are present at this war, so what Oda does is he has Marco (one of the elites) vow to protect Luffy at all costs. Now, the possibility of Luffy rescuing Ace is not far fetched at all since he has a great back up. Although, I'm still hoping that Whitebeard will be the one to save Ace. He's going to die anyway, so he should go out while doing some truly impressive feats.
Also, Ace took the words right out of my mouth in this chapter. Luffy is such a weakling in comparison to these monsters. I figured Ace would be upset at having little brother stick his nose in business where it doesn't belong. Moria, being the absolute nuisance/annoyance he is, was hilarious in this chapter. It's funny how Jimbei quickly disposed of the zombies by throwing a big wave of sea water at them. He is the worst possible match up they could have faced. I wonder if Moria and Jimbei will square off in the subsequent chapters to come....
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2009-09-24, 21:13 | Link #106 | ||
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Though still, bait and switch is very possible... it's HIGHLY unlikely that they would leave them out of the fight, and we do have new orders being executed via code... not hard to believe that one such order would be to have Kuma clones start moving in... have them move in from different parts of the battlefield and the pirates won't even notice that there are fakes; they will think they are real and many will panic at the sight of him... and anyone strong enough to beat one will find their hopes crushed when they come upon a second Kuma |
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2009-09-24, 21:28 | Link #107 |
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Oooh...my feelings are so hurt, cause you're clearly the first person to ever call me a fanboy. I was totally unprepared, I mean it came out of nowhere. I was sitting at my computer looking for some nice topics to discuss and then BAM! Fanboy. I'm totally devastated, I may not ever post again, I may not ever leave my house again. Only the brilliant mind of Master Mold can think of something as new and unique as fanboy. Let this be a lesson to all those who oppose Master Mold...he may call you a fanboy.
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2009-09-24, 21:38 | Link #109 |
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Everything that needs to be said has been said. I can't wait till the battle really starts to kick off and have Luffy in his "WTF" moment, making him realize how much further he has to go. I really like how Oda is doing his flashbacks. Its not some long dragged out Flashback that happens for every fight. but just lil snippets here n there.
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2009-09-24, 21:51 | Link #110 | |
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I find it hilarious that all these One Piece fanboys get mad and start to flame and lose their minds when someone says that a One Piece chapter is garbage with good reason. Instead of being whiny Odatards how about actually ADDRESSING the posts that hurt your feelings instead of calling someone who disagrees with your views on certain chapters a "troll."
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2009-09-24, 22:33 | Link #111 | |
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And you're right, the Whitebeard pirates don't need him to save Ace, but they are ensuring his safety just for the fact that he's Ace's brother. It's as if they feel Luffy too has an obligation to save Ace because of the bond they share.
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2009-09-24, 22:33 | Link #112 | |
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And this is the biggest event ever to have happened in the OP world.
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2009-09-24, 22:39 | Link #113 | |
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Judging from your comments, your issue is that Luffy shouldn't have all the respect of these big name guys. News flash, Luffy already knew or was affiliated in some way with half of those guys so it's only natural that people would notice him. Secondly, even though he's not as strong as the big name pirates and marines, he is at least as famous as they are or nearly as famous considering how much he's accomplished. Thirdly, it's not like he obtained this over the course of five or ten chapters, it's been well over five hundred chapters. Luffy has been long past due for some recognition. And it seems that you've forgotten how disrespected he was in the five hundred chapters previous to this (i.e. Buggy, Smoker, Crocodile, Bellamy). Most of us felt that this was a nice change of pace from the "your a rookie who's in way over his head" plot, but apparently you felt these two chapters of moderate respect trumps the 500+ chapters of blatant disrespect that preceded it.
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2009-09-24, 22:48 | Link #114 | |
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On topic. So I guess the big/real fights of this war will happen when Balckbeard and crew get involved. |
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On the viewpoint of people on the battle field: two shichibukai and a notorious rebel appeared out of no where. And Luffy himself is VERY famous also. What do you think the newspapers cover, if not news about the rookies? You think they would come to the Emperors and do some quick interviews, huh? On the viewpoint of the escape prisoners: obviously Luffy stands on the spotlight. And for godsake, how long has LUFFY been standing on the spotlight? 1 minutes, since the Dragon name was mentioned. Before that, was he ever on the spotlight? The familiar faces mentioned his name, that's all. Do you want Oda to show every single characters saying: "Oh, that's jinbei. And that's Croc. And Iva also! Wtf happened at ID? Oh, and isn't that Strawhat Luffy. You have been such a bother, rookie." Sorry, but that's retard. Battle-wise, the one most flashy gonna catch the biggest attention. And if Luffy uses gear third, he's gonna be flashy (when your "bignames" are so lazy to even move their asses to steal the spotlight). Chapters ago, you were saying that it was so fail with all the wasted large panels, didn't you. If Oda does A, he fails. If Oda does B, he fails. If he does something middle of A and B, he still fails. It's hard to argue with that ignorance. Sorry everyone, I was so itch with him. |
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2009-09-24, 23:56 | Link #117 |
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This was another good chapter. In my opinion Oda has the best storyline wise in any manga i have ever read.
Luffy is really getting a lot of help from the big players. Thats expected for a low power player like Luffy. But his will to inspire others turn the tide of the war. I don't know what the hell Garb is doing but he looks like he is about to do something in the next couple of chapters. Its a shame Ore Jr. didn't get this kind of support because Luffy doing the same thing but big players are helping. My biggest question is who is going to take on the other Shichibukai? I know Hancock won't attack Luffy. That leaves only Doflamingo, Kuma, Mihawk and Black Beard ( If he shows up). I can't wait to see what powers Dragon and Shanks have when they play there parts in the series. Does any one think Croc going to get his Shichibukai status back? I do becuase it make sense since Jimbei gave his up and croc has a vendetta against Whitebeard. I have been thinking about this for some time and this is just my opinion but i think the marines and the WG have a bigger plan then just getting White beard or any of the other big players. There main objective is to destroy the.... Spoiler for The story plot:
Yes that right, the "Will of Gold D. Rogers" was the Great age of Pirates that sprang from his death. His death was the inspiration that gave all pirates the meaning and purpose. If the marine can destroy this they will destroy purpose and meaning for all pirates and win the war. After all war is about destroying your opponents will to fight. Gold D. Rogers was right when he said he wasn't going to die. He lives forever becasue of what he started. The marines never thought this would happen and now when ever they fight pirates they fight Gold D. Rogers in away. If this story is like the other arcs in the One Piece series, Pirates will loose ground in this battle, the war will look like the marines will win, and White Beard will fall but in White Beard's last moment Luffy will inspire all pirates and revive that flame that Gold D. Rogers started. The "Will of Gold D. Roger's" will be renewed in the hearts of all pirates watching the battle on TV around the world. This will be another tearful moment in One Piece probably so get some kleenex. Even though Luffy not as powerful as other in this war White Beard will acknowledge Luffy for his will and his determination, same will and determination that put his crew together and started journey to be King of the Pirates. White Beard will also see a flash back of Gold D. Rogers and say the kid reminds of my old bastard. Then in a big laugh White Beard will show why he was a rival to the Pirate King and both sides and the world will be a witness to the powers of a Yonkou. It will Deal a big blow to the marines, it won't be defeat for the marines, but it will change the way the WG and the Marines do things forever. This war will be the birth of the second age of pirates. The war will have no winning sides. Big Players on both sides will be killed or changed forever. The old will die, alliances will change, and the new generations of Marines and Pirates will step forward to take up the challenges and responsibility that was put in front of them. Then the time skip will happen and then the crew will reunite to begin the adventures into the new world. At least this is my version of how this battle will go. Here hoping that Luffy and his crew will get a new make over when they come back from the time skip or whatever going happen after this war. Last edited by grey_1960; 2009-09-25 at 00:44. Reason: Forgot to add a thought |
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You know Oars is clearly not as strong as the "big shots" in One Piece but he had an entire chapter dedicated to him. Akainu had his chapter and Jozu and Marco had there moment as well. Nothing has suggested that Oda is going to have Luffy "[steal] the spotlight" he's just making his rounds. It's hard to give everyone attention all at once ,especially since there's so many people there, and like I said Luffy is the main character it's only natural that he should get the most facetime. Quote:
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If Whitebeard jumped in right off the bat, it would just gonna become a giant brawl between him, the shichibukai, the admirals, and his captains. Or is that what you are suggesting? Not to mention having the boss riskily going in-fight right away in such a big war is not very smart...Luckily he didn't do that "badass" act, cause someone here would start flaming him "stupid Whitebeard" instead You are very smart. Quote:
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Most top shots look at him with half an eye. He was saved once this chapter, and may be several on the next. He's having difficulty and the strong are laughing at him. Until he uses a flashy move to take out a flashy fodder giant and have the fodder crown cheer on him. What do you suggest? Luffy going after Ace, not by himself, but WITH OTHERS, so that they aren't seen as "backing him up?" lol. Or having Luffy going after Ace by himself, not having any "backup," and rolls over and dies? Or having Luffy going after Ace by himself, not having any "backup," and pawns the asshole out of everyone? Or having Luffy going after not Ace, but...Kizaru? lol.. Or having Luffy begging Whitebeard: please send me some BACKUP. lol. Or having Garp attack Sengoku and rescue Ace so that Luffy would not sink futher? Or...Oh, wait, how about having Luffy RUN AWAY! Very, very smart Quote:
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The godlike plan E Phenomenal is holding in secret. Talk it out. Otherwise all you are saying is that OP is instant fail no matter what Oda does and he should just do plan F which is stop making OP for good. Which will tell how intelligent, and smart you are Last edited by Cinocard; 2009-09-25 at 00:49. |
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2009-09-25, 00:36 | Link #120 |
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Cool chapter. It sounds like Dragon is attacking, or otherwise causing trouble on the Shabondy Archipelago.
My favorite frame in the chapter was the big panel on page 15. Luffy doing gear 3rd, and he looks like a tiny speck. Can't wait for 559! |
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