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Antonik · 2006-07-14, 16:57

Show was okay, I'm kind of unfulfilled though that Van stays exactly the same after this whole ordeal. and Fasarina turned me on when she faught Van

I'm a sad person.

Antonik · 2006-07-15, 10:50

I have a question what did Joshua go on to do? He mentioned something about getting his brother back, and van said it would take 100 years or something to that extent, I was really confused.

TougeSil80 · 2006-07-21, 07:08

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I have a question what did Joshua go on to do? He mentioned something about getting his brother back, and van said it would take 100 years or something to that extent, I was really confused.

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Shiryuu · 2006-07-21, 08:33

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You sure about the planet thing? I thought they were just talking about Volcain and how long it would take to recover its pieces or something. I don't even think Joshua would know the coordinates to any other planet (other than the moon) if he didn't already knew it before (since he didn't seem to know everything about space travel when they we're trying to get Van up there).

TougeSil80 · 2006-07-21, 08:37

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You sure about the planet thing? I thought they were just talking about Volcain and how long it would take to recover its pieces or something. I don't even think Joshua would know the coordinates to any other planet (other than the moon) if he didn't already knew it before (since he didn't seem to know everything about space travel when they we're trying to get Van up there).

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Shiryuu · 2006-07-21, 08:53

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They have the El Dorado to do all the heavy lifting, that should be no problem. Even if he was trying to go to another planet, it wouldn't take that long because if Volcain was able to go to Endless Illusion (or whatever Van's planet is called) then it would be able to go back just as fast.

From what I can remember, Claw Man's base got destroyed too and a lot of it sunk into the sea, so that might make finding the pieces\bodies take a long while. Also, I also doubt CM's workers would just leave dead bodies in front of him during all that birthday stuff, they probably disposed it somewhere.

Residentbadass · 2006-07-24, 10:20

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Agree with Shika and Kagu. Still an awesome series overall, but a few things keeping it from reaching the top. What really bugs me is:

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Let me take a shot at that. This is probably way off, but what the hell...

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Yeah, so thats my take on why the Claw Man did what he did. I feel pretty embarassed after that, so I hope none of my friends read these boards.

Shiryuu · 2006-07-24, 15:03

^ Interesting theory, but I feel Gadved had more to do with it than the Claw man. He was the one who pointed CM to Van and his bride after all.

lommm · 2006-07-25, 04:22

i watched the whole series last month and i saw it like this:

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that's the way I see it... this show is about 80% great, but a couple of the early fillerish eps are misplaced and the actual resolving of the conspiracy and cult of the Claw Man is rushed because of it... but several of the character are really great (Van and Ray especially)... I almost feel like the show would have been better off to be structured more along the lines of Shinichiro Watanabe's shows... sure, there's a through line for the plot of the whole series, but he only uses the last three or four episodes to resolve it, not the last 12 eps, the way this show does...

also, what's with the show being on "Planet Endless Illlusion"???? It could have been much better to be on Earth in the distant future, post apocolyptic war or something...

TougeSil80 · 2006-07-25, 08:39

Spoiler for Planet Endless Illusion:

TougeSil80 · 2006-07-25, 08:40

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Residentbadass · 2006-07-25, 11:49

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Originally Posted by lommm

i watched the whole series last month and i saw it like this:

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that's the way I see it... this show is about 80% great, but a couple of the early fillerish eps are misplaced and the actual resolving of the conspiracy and cult of the Claw Man is rushed because of it... but several of the character are really great (Van and Ray especially)... I almost feel like the show would have been better off to be structured more along the lines of Shinichiro Watanabe's shows... sure, there's a through line for the plot of the whole series, but he only uses the last three or four episodes to resolve it, not the last 12 eps, the way this show does...

also, what's with the show being on "Planet Endless Illlusion"???? It could have been much better to be on Earth in the distant future, post apocolyptic war or something...

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And lommm, now that I think about it, you're probably dead on with that. Seeing how

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and how

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Add in the fact that Gadved is pretty much a disciplined man with strict principles, I think you hit the nail on the head.

Shiryuu · 2006-07-25, 12:55

About EI, from what I can remember, It was supposed to be a prison planet and the Original Seven was the enforcers. I have no idea how Claw Man's past ties into this (I might have to rewatch it again... later).

lommm · 2006-07-26, 05:54

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About EI, from what I can remember, It was supposed to be a prison planet and the Original Seven was the enforcers. I have no idea how Claw Man's past ties into this (I might have to rewatch it again... later).

from what i remember CW was quite young in the flashbacks.... i assume they mean for him to be very old... and from what i understood... once an Original Seven pilot was linked up to a suit, then the pilot would live indefinitely, as long as the Armor remained intact... so Gadved should be really old, but he doesn't age.... like how Van doesn't age for the end of the series but Wendy and Kameo did...

CW was a refugee on the moon and apparently, EI was already populated....

Zerowinger · 2006-11-04, 23:16

i just finished episode 26 and i wonder. is ther any series coming after this? manga continuing where it left of ? or a movie? cause it ended damn wierd.

Zu Ra · 2006-11-05, 01:37

I think this series was liscened in April/May I can swear I have seen the DVD release dates on ANN . But a great anime though also a very orignal chara Van mecha Dan .

Mod Please shift to Liscened Section

Edit : Liscened by Geneon Entertainment DVD INFO

kauldron26 · 2006-12-08, 16:13

absolutely ridiculously entertaining... what a blast. And the ending was just a riot... LMAO.. Why wasnt this more popular??

Amirali · 2007-11-12, 11:58

I loved the series, although the second half felt a bit cliche. Of the early episodes, there were a few really lame villains, but also some interesting ones. What kept the series strong despite a cliched main story (at times), and the occasional bad filler was that it always focused on the human element and characters. In particular, I adored the El Dora Five for representing the heart of this series. Cliche? Yes. But they were so cool, I couldn't care less. I'd have happily watched a 26 episode series where they were the main protagonists, especially if it was set in the past when Chizuru and her Pink amigo were still alive. Those old men are far more interesting than Van (at least for me).

Forbin · 2007-11-12, 20:23

Just making sure you also watched the little 'extra' at the end.

Damn that turtle is HUGE!

dreamless · 2007-11-12, 20:41

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absolutely ridiculously entertaining... what a blast. And the ending was just a riot... LMAO.. Why wasnt this more popular??

Yea, this series really should be more popular, I'd even say this is THE No.1 best series of the recent three years for me. It's just perfect in every single aspect, for me at least

2006-07-25, 04:22	Link #49
lommm l'homme de lommm Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: 34 3 118 15	i watched the whole series last month and i saw it like this: Spoiler: Gadved did have a lot to do witth the Claw Man... he was already working with him when the drifter Van was used to test Dann... Gadved became fed up with the original Original Seven, so he along with the Claw Man, killed them all off to be able to start a new Original Seven... whether Van and his bride fell in love or not had nothing to do with the Claw Man killing her... The Claw Man killed Ray's wife and Van's bride because those two women were the greatest scientists with the most knowledge of the Original Seven... they would not only know the Original Seven's weak points, but they had the knowledge to build more powerful Armors that could defeat the Original Seven (such as Ray's Vulcan)... Van just had the misfortune of falling in love with a marked woman... and the Claw Man had the misfortune of f**king with a guy who had nothing else to live for except the one woman (or person for that matter) who had ever shown him love... I don't believe the Claw Man ever wanted Van to be a member of the Original Seven... that was Godved's choice, to assuage his guilt over being involved with the attack at the wedding... after all, it was her dying wish that Godved give Dann to Van... now, Michael's motivation is threefold... 1 - he is young and impressionable, and apparently easily brainwashed, as he buys into the cult of the Claw Man pretty easily and he believes he is somehow making a better world 2 - he has a big ego, and with everyone telling him he's a genius and the best Armor pilot ever, he wants to continue getting better and better 3 - he's in love with Fasolina... we see this early on, even before she sleeps with him... he is in love with her, so sticking with the Claw Man allows him to stay close to her that's the way I see it... this show is about 80% great, but a couple of the early fillerish eps are misplaced and the actual resolving of the conspiracy and cult of the Claw Man is rushed because of it... but several of the character are really great (Van and Ray especially)... I almost feel like the show would have been better off to be structured more along the lines of Shinichiro Watanabe's shows... sure, there's a through line for the plot of the whole series, but he only uses the last three or four episodes to resolve it, not the last 12 eps, the way this show does... also, what's with the show being on "Planet Endless Illlusion"???? It could have been much better to be on Earth in the distant future, post apocolyptic war or something...

2006-07-25, 08:39	Link #50
TougeSil80 I have enough, I'm gone. Join Date: Dec 2005	Spoiler for Planet Endless Illusion: But the planet "Mother" is very possibly Earth, Endless Illusion is just another planet that has similar habitat as Earth. At least that's how I understand it.

2006-07-25, 08:40	Link #51
TougeSil80 I have enough, I'm gone. Join Date: Dec 2005	Spoiler for Planet Endless Illusion: But the planet "Mother" is very possibly Earth, Endless Illusion is just another planet that has similar habitat as Earth. At least that's how I understand it.

2006-11-04, 23:16	Link #55
Zerowinger Member Join Date: Nov 2004	Gun X Sword i just finished episode 26 and i wonder. is ther any series coming after this? manga continuing where it left of ? or a movie? cause it ended damn wierd.

2006-11-05, 01:37	Link #56
Zu Ra ✖ ǝʇ ɯıqnɾl ☆ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mortuary : D	I think this series was liscened in April/May I can swear I have seen the DVD release dates on ANN . But a great anime though also a very orignal chara Van mecha Dan . Mod Please shift to Liscened Section Edit : Liscened by Geneon Entertainment DVD INFO __________________ Last edited by Zu Ra; 2006-11-05 at 02:21.

2006-07-14, 16:57	Link #41
Antonik Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Age: 35	Show was okay, I'm kind of unfulfilled though that Van stays exactly the same after this whole ordeal. and Fasarina turned me on when she faught Van I'm a sad person.

2006-07-15, 10:50	Link #42
Antonik Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New York Age: 35	I have a question what did Joshua go on to do? He mentioned something about getting his brother back, and van said it would take 100 years or something to that extent, I was really confused.

2006-07-24, 15:03	Link #48
Shiryuu Magical Boy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hiding... don't try to find me. Age: 20	^ Interesting theory, but I feel Gadved had more to do with it than the Claw man. He was the one who pointed CM to Van and his bride after all.

2006-07-25, 12:55	Link #53
Shiryuu Magical Boy Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hiding... don't try to find me. Age: 20	About EI, from what I can remember, It was supposed to be a prison planet and the Original Seven was the enforcers. I have no idea how Claw Man's past ties into this (I might have to rewatch it again... later).

2006-12-08, 16:13	Link #57
kauldron26 Med Student Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 40	absolutely ridiculously entertaining... what a blast. And the ending was just a riot... LMAO.. Why wasnt this more popular??

2007-11-12, 11:58	Link #58
Amirali Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Over the rainbow. Age: 38	I loved the series, although the second half felt a bit cliche. Of the early episodes, there were a few really lame villains, but also some interesting ones. What kept the series strong despite a cliched main story (at times), and the occasional bad filler was that it always focused on the human element and characters. In particular, I adored the El Dora Five for representing the heart of this series. Cliche? Yes. But they were so cool, I couldn't care less. I'd have happily watched a 26 episode series where they were the main protagonists, especially if it was set in the past when Chizuru and her Pink amigo were still alive. Those old men are far more interesting than Van (at least for me).

2007-11-12, 20:23	Link #59
Forbin I'm a sucker for Harem Join Date: Aug 2004	Just making sure you also watched the little 'extra' at the end. Damn that turtle is HUGE! __________________ My Favorite Anime Quotes Courtesy of Answerman of ANN: 1) By and Large...they are and ***. 2) What kind of girls do Anime Otaku males want? ..................... Female. 3) The odds are good, that the goods are odd.