Re:Zero - Episode 18 Discussion / Poll

[Kairin]

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[Applehell]

From the last episode thread:

Originally Posted by Kakurin-san

Spoiler for Episode 18 Preview:

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https://youtu.be/HIgkGkZxC2g

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Megumin has hijacked the preview of episode 18. Explosion!

[AB079]

What can I say? this episode is literally epic and perfect on every possible way.

Everything started with Puck dealing with Betelgeuse and Subaru breaking apart again, this is something obvious considering what happened on episode 15, then again the same broken Subaru wake up, filled with despair, anger and pain until Rem turned to be the true savior.

The scene where Rem talks with Subaru and healed his heart was incredible, jesus this is superb, we were able to see how Rem cured his madness allowing Subaru to finally get his shit together. This idea leads to a simple understanding, all the suffering and pain we saw since episode 1 to 17 helped to develop a whole new Subaru, and one of the biggest details to see that is how he was able to laugh , a true laugh of joy.

Leaving aside the fact that Subaru admitted he loves Emilia, Rem is still the best girl and the only person who stay at Subaru's side into de darkness.

Edit: Twitter is on fire! https://twitter.com/Rezero_official

[Seafoam]

Wow, what an episode. Dialogue can have such an impact and this shows that. Not touching anything shipping related with a fucking ten foot pole though.

[bakato]

Originally Posted by Going Seafoam

Wow, what an episode. Dialogue can have such an impact and this shows that. Not touching anything shipping related with a fucking ten foot pole though.

Yes. Fans who already knew what was going to happen in this episode knew it came down to one line that turned everything on its head. I'm a bit surprised this took a whole episode though. Not that I'm complaining.

[Arkard]

Puck's true form confirmed and wow, Rem absolutely dominated this episode. To think this was the same character that initially murdered Subaru in cold blood for being suspicious and smelling of the witch...

[frubam]

Yeah, that was something. This kinda harkens something that happened in Tales of Xillia, where

Spoiler for HEAVY Tales of Xillia spoilers:

Jude(Subaru) was instantly fascinated with Milla(Emilia), but after Milla's death, Leia(Rem) stayed by his side and was ultimately the one who helped turn his way of thinking around.

Really though, I had a sudden urge to smack the s*** out of him after he blatantly says he's in love with Emilia, after Rem said she loves him and practically saved his entire character >=01. Still, that didn't bother me nearly as much as it would have because the dialogue for the episode as a whole was simply phenomenal! Subaru was basically regurgitating everything we(the viewers) thought about him, and it was nice that he realized his shortcomings all along. Rem is truly precious; she's more the main character in this arc than Emilia has ever been. I hope we continue to see what/if those two can still grow together before the end of the animated series =03.

[bakato]

Did anyone else cry?

Originally Posted by frubam

Really though, I had a sudden urge to smack the s*** out of him after he blatantly says he's in love with Emilia, after Rem said she loves him and practically saved his entire character >=01. Still, that didn't bother me nearly as much as it would have because the dialogue for the episode as a whole was simply phenomenal! Subaru was basically regurgitating everything we(the viewers) thought about him, and it was nice that he realized his shortcomings all along. Rem is truly precious; she's more the main character in this arc than Emilia has ever been. I hope we continue to see what/if those two can still grow together before the end of the animated series =03.

Hey, that was pretty decent of him. After being confessed too, it would've been unfair to let Rem think she had a shot at being #1. She deserved to know that before being asked to help him.

[Proto]

Indeed. Subaru was pretty decent in staying true to himself and not taking advantage of Rem, unlike many series/protagonists that leaves the runner-ups hanging on till the last episode. It is painful, but I think the series is better for it. Not that this takes anything from Rem's and Subaru's dialogue. I'm really glad the series spent an episode here. It was indeed a good payoff for all the episodes of pain we have gone through... now for the turnaround.

[HandofFate]

series should be renamed Rem;Zero.
Because she's the true hero of this series.

No idea why Subaru is so fixated on Emilia, okay he wants to help/save her okay.
But come on, you did not spend that much time with her in arc1 to be so devoted to her like this. He's literally like a baby chicken that latched onto the first waifu he saw. If he was a girl in a gal game, he be a typical capture target.

[HandofFate]

Originally Posted by Applehell

From the last episode thread:

dang, wish there was subtitles for these

[bakato]

Originally Posted by HandofFate

series should be renamed Rem;Zero.
Because she's the true hero of this series.

No idea why Subaru is so fixated on Emilia, okay he wants to help/save her okay.
But come on, you did not spend that much time with her in arc1 to be so devoted to her like this. He's literally like a baby chicken that latched onto the first waifu he saw. If he was a girl in a gal game, he be a typical capture target.

Emilia did something similar for him in arc 2.

Also, they adapted 100% of the lines from the LN!

[felix]

Originally Posted by bakato

Yes. Fans who already knew what was going to happen in this episode knew it came down to one line that turned everything on its head. I'm a bit surprised this took a whole episode though. Not that I'm complaining.

Oh is that so. So I wasn't wrong when I guessed everyone was trolling the previous episode threads by tacking some moral high ground knowing that the show would "justify" your stance regardless of what you wrote.

Thanks for the confirmation.

Also sorry to inform you, the show pretty much confirmed (not that if it didn't say it or said it otherwise would have made a difference), that thinking of giving up is stupid and fruitless (early in the episode by Rem), that Subaru is an idiot (his own words), that Subaru wasn't actually suffering from any mental problems other then self inflicted ones (his own words and the final moments with Puck). I think you all might have read your spoilers wrong, or in the novel its different.

I guess it's still too early to tell if that was all there was to the "redemption" angle; though it's pretty much a wash already for me. Felt sorry for Rem but the occasional Subaru moments showing all the things that he supposedly did (that in the actual episodes was just him screaming; missing novel material?) mostly sullied the scenes. His charming "I actually like Emilia" at the end was also the cherry on the cake.

Let's see what this deus ex machina we get next week is about.

[frubam]

Originally Posted by bakato

Hey, that was pretty decent of him. After being confessed too, it would've been unfair to let Rem think she had a shot at being #1. She deserved to know that before being asked to help him.

Originally Posted by Proto

Indeed. Subaru was pretty decent in staying true to himself and not taking advantage of Rem, unlike many series/protagonists that leaves the runner-ups hanging on till the last episode. It is painful, but I think the series is better for it.

Gah, that's true =0|. It still stings a little knowing how much Rem bared herself, but yeah, being on the same page with their feelings definitely will nix any painful misunderstandings later on(and hopefully will make them even closer as well).

[Proto]

Also sorry to inform you, the show pretty much confirmed (not that if it didn't say it or said it otherwise would have made a difference), that thinking of giving up is stupid and fruitless (early in the episode by Rem), that Subaru is an idiot (his own words), that Subaru wasn't actually suffering from any mental problems other then self inflicted ones (his own words and the final moments with Puck). I think you all might have read your spoilers wrong, or in the novel its different.

I guess it's still too early to tell if that was all there was to the "redemption" angle; though it's pretty much a wash already for me. Felt sorry for Rem but the occasional Subaru moments showing all the things that he supposedly did (that in the actual episodes was just him screaming; missing novel material?) mostly sullied the scenes. His charming "I actually like Emilia" at the end was also the cherry on the cake.

Let's see what this deus ex machina we get next week is about.

As you say I think discussing with other people coming from spoiler land is ruining the show for you. At least I'm sad to see you so dejected about it specially after you seem to be more enthusiastic about it earlier on. If it was me I'd ban novels/spoiler readers from even participating in these threads aside from general impressions, but such is life.

I'd suggest you to just take a step back and take the series for what it is. You know it's getting bad when you are using terms like deus ex machina, but I'm almost sure Zeus won't be coming down to save the day next episode.

[wuhugm]

Yo Subaru, watcha doin rejecting best girl? kill yourself pliz~

[Kakurin]

The episode was brilliant in a lot of ways. The voice acting by both Kobayashi and Minase at the forefront, really managed to convey the emotions of those scenes, brilliant. And Rem pretty much sealed her spot as the best character in Re:Zero.

Although I have to mention that the last few minutes left a sour taste. First of all with Subaru just blatantly stating that he likes Emilia, which frankly at this stage I consider rather superficial. And second, after all that talk, all that self-depreciation, he talks about becoming the greatest hero ever? The hell? Modesty is not in his vocabulary, huh.

[Stark700]

Aww, Rem's conversation with Subaru and calling him her hero..;_;

[AmazingDarkKnight]

This episode was beautiful. So many tears were shed today . Rem is too precious. Every man needs a girl like her.

Also when Rem started crying when Subaru hugged her at the end of the episode, was Rem crying because Subaru rejected her or because the Subaru she loved the most had come back?

I would like to think it was the latter, but it can also be something else entirely.

[Twi]

...Ow. my heart. Why? Why does this hurt so much?

What does he see in Emilia that Rem doesn't have?